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Post by Murina on Jul 20, 2013 16:04:47 GMT -5
Wow, Russia just man-handled Italy. 12-25. Is anybody watching or am I talking to myself here? link?? Always try frombar/sportlemon when in doubt. |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 16:16:04 GMT -5
Nice run by Zaytsev to bring a 4th set.
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 16:17:55 GMT -5
it makes me sick to my stomach that the us could still be in the hunt and we could have been excited for team usa had it not been for some stupid setter experiment. I have a feeling the experiment is only beginning.  |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 16:20:29 GMT -5
Great Savani back hand dig.
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Post by jimbo387 on Jul 20, 2013 16:40:34 GMT -5
so red card equals suspension from the game? I wonder what was said for two russians to get red cards....crazy.
PEACE
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Post by thenetset on Jul 20, 2013 16:45:44 GMT -5
Spiridonov given a match penalty late in set 4. About time. Anyone know if this has bearing on their finals appearance? I know in soccer when someone gets a match penalty, they're out for the next match, too, as well as the match where the penalty happens.
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Post by thenetset on Jul 20, 2013 16:47:55 GMT -5
so red card equals suspension from the game? I wonder what was said for two russians to get red cards....crazy. PEACE It's the yellow/red combination that gets you kicked out. This was the first time I'd ever seen it, and ordinarily I wouldn't be in favour of it being assessed just for being a jackass, but Spiridonov earned it. What a cocky little punk. He's got gobs of talent, but he needs to learn how to act like he's been there before. Maybe this will reach him...but I doubt it. I feel like there may have been a scoring error in this set, though. There should have been an automatic point for Italy on the red card that preceded the yellow/red combo, and I don't think it was actually given. It wouldn't have likely made a difference, though. |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 16:48:01 GMT -5
Dude has the worst attitude I've seen on the court.
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 16:51:29 GMT -5
I feel like there may have been a scoring error in this set, though. There should have been an automatic point for Italy on the red card that preceded the yellow/red combo, and I don't think it was actually given. It wouldn't have likely made a difference, though. There were two red cards? The second one being a yellow/red combo? |
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Post by thenetset on Jul 20, 2013 16:57:21 GMT -5
Mhm. A red card is an automatic point (and sideout, if applicable) for the opposition, while yellow/red together is the DQ. I /thought/ a red card was also a DQ for the set, but Spiridonov got a red yesterday and stayed in (and he wasn't immediately subbed out for the red today, either), so I'm not sure about that. I do know that if Russia had already used all their subs when Spiridonov got yellow and red, they would have automatically lost the set.
Just like substitution and libero rules, it's different in the NCAA (while appearing similar enough to breed false familiarity). Under NCAA rules, there's a distinction between yellow and red held in the same hand and yellow and red held in different hands. I can't exactly remember what that distinction is anymore (maybe one is set DQ, the other is match DQ), because when is this ever gonna be something you need to know? Most people behave themselves better than Spiridonov.
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Post by Murina on Jul 20, 2013 16:58:58 GMT -5
Spiradinov was not disqualified (out for the match), he was expelled (out for the rest of the set). There is no soccer style carry over from one match to the next. This is clearly spelled out in the rules, which are freely available for download in 4 languages. www.fivb.org/EN/Refereeing-Rules/RulesOfTheGame_VB.asp |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 17:00:26 GMT -5
Am I imagining this or are yellow cards now a point too?
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Post by thenetset on Jul 20, 2013 17:01:24 GMT -5
Spiradinov was not disqualified (out for the match), he was expelled (out for the rest of the set). There is no soccer style carry over from one match to the next. Terrific, thank you. I looked all this up once upon a time, but like I say, it's not something I've kept at the forefront of my mind. |
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Post by kokyu on Jul 20, 2013 17:04:31 GMT -5
Check out Spiridonov trash talking his current setter Grankin!
Another red card.
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Post by thenetset on Jul 20, 2013 17:06:11 GMT -5
Doesn't really reflect well on either of them.
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