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Post by vbnerd on Feb 26, 2014 15:17:58 GMT -5
I'm not comparing anyone. Just stating a fact. Here's another one: Geoff built Concordia STP from "nothing." I have nothing but admiration for Geoff and his coaching abilities. STP? He managed an oil change shop? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2014 15:23:54 GMT -5
Yes. He introduced the concept of using oil. Who knew peanut butter was bad for your car?
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Post by jcash8 on Feb 26, 2014 22:18:36 GMT -5
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 26, 2014 22:30:17 GMT -5
Good coach. Not a wow hire, but someone solid, who has done a great job wherever he has been. |
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Post by braveheart on Feb 26, 2014 23:22:36 GMT -5
Good coach. Not a wow hire, but someone solid, who has done a great job wherever he has been. WOW - that is one heck of an endorsement! "Hey Deane, good luck as you are a good coach, but you're not really someone we think can WOW us" . . . I am sure there would have been some real WOW people for you - enlighten the rest of us to your list of WOW coaches out there. I mean, unless Ohio could pull a rabbit out of a hat and get some of the other Top 25 people to their campus (which they will never do as they aren't a BCS school), who do you think would be a WOW? Barry Goldberg? Geoff? Those are the only people inside the RPI Top 50 that don't coach for a BCS school (or aren't already ranked higher than Ohio). I'm guessing there are some asst. out there that would WOW you more than Deane does. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 0:19:46 GMT -5
You think this WAS a "wow" hire? Seems like dorothy made a pretty simple statement and it was far from an insult. Why are you taking it as one?
For the record, Geoff, at the time, was further down on the "wow" scale than Deane is. And that worked out pretty well.
There's a huge difference between not being a "wow hire" and saying someone doesn't have a chance of impressing people with results.
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Post by Not Me on Feb 27, 2014 0:36:36 GMT -5
Could
A school like Ohio hire any WOW coaches?
Unless it is a WOW on the bad/ huge reach scale
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Post by houstonian on Feb 27, 2014 0:47:38 GMT -5
Good coach. Not a wow hire, but someone solid, who has done a great job wherever he has been. WOW - that is one heck of an endorsement! "Hey Deane, good luck as you are a good coach, but you're not really someone we think can WOW us" . . . I am sure there would have been some real WOW people for you - enlighten the rest of us to your list of WOW coaches out there. I mean, unless Ohio could pull a rabbit out of a hat and get some of the other Top 25 people to their campus (which they will never do as they aren't a BCS school), who do you think would be a WOW? Barry Goldberg? Geoff? Those are the only people inside the RPI Top 50 that don't coach for a BCS school (or aren't already ranked higher than Ohio). I'm guessing there are some asst. out there that would WOW you more than Deane does. Other non BCS schools inside RPI top 50: Creighton, Central Arkansas, Colgate, any others? |
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Post by braveheart on Feb 27, 2014 7:54:08 GMT -5
You think this WAS a "wow" hire? Seems like dorothy made a pretty simple statement and it was far from an insult. Why are you taking it as one? For the record, Geoff, at the time, was further down on the "wow" scale than Deane is. And that worked out pretty well. There's a huge difference between not being a "wow hire" and saying someone doesn't have a chance of impressing people with results. Simply put, who is on Dorothy's WOW list? I think Deane is really good and will do great. Who exactly is on the WOW list? |
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Post by braveheart on Feb 27, 2014 7:56:26 GMT -5
Could A school like Ohio hire any WOW coaches? Unless it is a WOW on the bad/ huge reach scale My point exactly - I don't think Ohio can make a WOW pick in the positive as that would be a small pool of 99% BCS head coaches that have no desire to move from their current situation to Ohio. |
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Post by braveheart on Feb 27, 2014 7:59:59 GMT -5
WOW - that is one heck of an endorsement! "Hey Deane, good luck as you are a good coach, but you're not really someone we think can WOW us" . . . I am sure there would have been some real WOW people for you - enlighten the rest of us to your list of WOW coaches out there. I mean, unless Ohio could pull a rabbit out of a hat and get some of the other Top 25 people to their campus (which they will never do as they aren't a BCS school), who do you think would be a WOW? Barry Goldberg? Geoff? Those are the only people inside the RPI Top 50 that don't coach for a BCS school (or aren't already ranked higher than Ohio). I'm guessing there are some asst. out there that would WOW you more than Deane does. Other non BCS schools inside RPI top 50: Creighton, Central Arkansas, Colgate, any others? Exactly my point - Kirsten would have no reason to leave Creighton for Ohio, McFatrich from UCA wouldn't be a WOW I'm guessing, and neither would Baker from Colgate. All great coaches, but I'm betting they wouldn't be tabbed as WOW hires. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 27, 2014 8:27:11 GMT -5
Good coach. Not a wow hire, but someone solid, who has done a great job wherever he has been. WOW - that is one heck of an endorsement! "Hey Deane, good luck as you are a good coach, but you're not really someone we think can WOW us" . . . I am sure there would have been some real WOW people for you - enlighten the rest of us to your list of WOW coaches out there. I mean, unless Ohio could pull a rabbit out of a hat and get some of the other Top 25 people to their campus (which they will never do as they aren't a BCS school), who do you think would be a WOW? Barry Goldberg? Geoff? Those are the only people inside the RPI Top 50 that don't coach for a BCS school (or aren't already ranked higher than Ohio). I'm guessing there are some asst. out there that would WOW you more than Deane does. This is comical, I notice you chose to leave out these quotes from me, " someone solid who has done a GREAT job wherever he has been" I would say that is a really strong endorsement and an acknowledgement that he is an exceptional coach. Unless of course they have recently changed the definition of the words "Good", " solid" and " great job" How anyone could read my entire post and say this is a knock on Deane is remarkable. "Wow" hire is someone with a big name, who came from a great program, either as a player, asst or head coach, who is also probably charismatic. Deane is a super coach, who has done nothing but win. He is a hardworking "understated" guy, who has quietly built a great program. He isn't a self promoter or someone who has thrown his hat in every single job opening. Thus it isn't a wow hire. Its important to note that it doesn't have to be a wow hire to be a great hire, and in fact when peoples goal is to make a wow hire, it often fails. I think its important to understand that, but not as important as being able to read. In the future if you could please read the entire post, and have a better grasp of superlatives like, solid, great, and good, I would appreciate it. |
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Post by dorothymantooth on Feb 27, 2014 8:29:52 GMT -5
You think this WAS a "wow" hire? Seems like dorothy made a pretty simple statement and it was far from an insult. Why are you taking it as one? For the record, Geoff, at the time, was further down on the "wow" scale than Deane is. And that worked out pretty well. There's a huge difference between not being a "wow hire" and saying someone doesn't have a chance of impressing people with results. Simply put, who is on Dorothy's WOW list? I think Deane is really good and will do great. Who exactly is on the WOW list? Wait a minute, are you saying Deane is really good and will do great? I seem to remember someone else saying that in a post. Oh yeah, that was me. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Feb 27, 2014 9:05:02 GMT -5
Between the off season doldrums and the Polar Vortex, people are finding strange things to insult their sensibilities.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2014 9:09:34 GMT -5
What the hell do you mean by that?!
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