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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 18:13:34 GMT -5
I still don't understand the logic that people want Fawcett as the backup/double sub OPP and it's just a matter of deciding who's better between Lowe and Murphy to be the starter. If both of them would start over Fawcett, why wouldn't you take both? Are there certain teams they could face where it's decidedly better to have a right-handed OPP? I think Murphy and Lowe actually compliment each other very well as hitters. They each have the same weaknesses and the same strengths, with Lowe being stronger in some areas. |
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Post by superfan1 on Jul 12, 2015 18:13:56 GMT -5
Assuming Glass is not available, does Lloyd have a shot to supplant Kreklow? I don't think so... Lloyd hasn't been on a major roster... ever? Hard to believe that she would be able to supplant Kreklow or Thompson even if Glass isn't available in one year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 18:15:21 GMT -5
Assuming Glass is not available, does Lloyd have a shot to supplant Kreklow? Doesn't appear so. Has she played with the top squad in any match other than the one against China at Irvine? |
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Post by deacondive on Jul 12, 2015 18:23:17 GMT -5
Nicole Davis is not making this roster. My opinion is there are two liberos in the system that are better than her. I would pick Hagglund before her and I also happen to think Hagglund is better than Banworth. Also my understanding of the rules is that only one libero may be designated for the entire tournament (barring injury). In that case most would probably agree that Robinson would be the 'emergency' libero. What from Hagglund have you ever seen (outside of college) that makes you believe she's a better libero? BTW Banwarth is with an 'A', not an 'O'. The USA libero depth chart 1. Banwarth (teams avoid her On serve receive, dominant passer) 2. Miyashiro/Davis (hard to see either in Rio at this point) 4. Hagglund (she made the Pan Am roster, not the Grand Prix roster...that tells you everything |
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Post by deacondive on Jul 12, 2015 18:25:12 GMT -5
Assuming Glass is not available, does Lloyd have a shot to supplant Kreklow? Doesn't appear so. I don't think Kreklow is locked in by any means. Glass is the clear number 1 in the U.S. Gym. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 18:27:05 GMT -5
I don't think Kreklow is locked in by any means. Glass is the clear number 1 in the U.S. Gym. There isn't a setter in the world that blocks and defends like Glass does. |
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Post by #skoskers on Jul 12, 2015 18:30:25 GMT -5
I don't think Kreklow is locked in by any means. Glass is the clear number 1 in the U.S. Gym. There isn't a setter in the world that blocks and defends like Glass does. Naz, Wolosz, Startseva |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 18:32:39 GMT -5
I don't think Kreklow is locked in by any means. Glass is the clear number 1 in the U.S. Gym. There isn't a setter in the world that blocks and defends like Glass does. I agree. Her being healthy means all those secondary setter skills are greatly improved for USA. That combined with her primary setting skills, do, as deacondive stated, make her the clear number one. |
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Post by n00b on Jul 12, 2015 18:49:28 GMT -5
Fawcett is a better blocker, a better server, a significantly better defender, is better out-of-system, and attacks from the left in rotation 1 better than Lowe or Murphy. She is also a great teammate and an experienced veteran. Her being right-handed also presents a different look for a defense prepared to defend a left-handed attacker. I think it's fairly obvious that Fawcett will continue to fill the double-sub opposite role for us at the World Cup and in Rio. Serving and defending are totally irrelevant if she's just filling the double-sub opposite role. I'm not arguing that whether she's better or worse than either lefty, but I'm sure the stats guys (and USAV certainly listens to them) will argue that playing the better player is more important than a different look and experience (this group isn't lacking in veterans with Olympic experience). |
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 12, 2015 18:51:17 GMT -5
Murphy > Fawcett Davis (second libero) > Vansant From THAT roster, if Banwarth got hurt I'm pretty sure Robinson would slide into the libero spot. I haven't seen a whole lot of Davis this year. Has she played in any relevant international matches? If the libero got hurt, they can bring someone in from home for the next match. |
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Post by n00b on Jul 12, 2015 18:53:23 GMT -5
From THAT roster, if Banwarth got hurt I'm pretty sure Robinson would slide into the libero spot. I haven't seen a whole lot of Davis this year. Has she played in any relevant international matches? If the libero got hurt, they can bring someone in from home for the next match. Interesting. I admittedly have no clue how Olympic roster rules work. Is that true about all players? If somebody gets hurt, you can add somebody to the roster? |
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 12, 2015 18:53:46 GMT -5
BTW, nothing on Fawcett, but completely agree on the idea that IF Lowe and Murphy are competing for the STARTING spot, take both of them and leave fawcett at home. If anything it keeps the setting the SAME for both setters, regardless of who comes in as a double sub. Setting a lefty OPP is much different than setting a righty OPP. IF both setters can step in and run the entire offense setting the same OPP set, it definitely seems more consistent.
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Post by ay2013 on Jul 12, 2015 18:55:36 GMT -5
What from Hagglund have you ever seen (outside of college) that makes you believe she's a better libero? BTW Banwarth is with an 'A', not an 'O'. The USA libero depth chart 1. Banwarth (teams avoid her On serve receive, dominant passer) 2. Miyashiro/Davis (hard to see either in Rio at this point) 4. Hagglund (she made the Pan Am roster, not the Grand Prix roster...that tells you everything Banwarth is NOT a dominant passer, nothing in the stats says so. Just in this tournament so far she's never been above 70% positive and she's been under 50% for half the matches so far. She's fine, but she's not stellar back there. IMO teams "avoid" her because she's better than our OH's generally. But that's not the same as her being a "dominant passer". |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2015 19:01:22 GMT -5
If the libero got hurt, they can bring someone in from home for the next match. Interesting. I admittedly have no clue how Olympic roster rules work. Is that true about all players? If somebody gets hurt, you can add somebody to the roster? My understanding is you may designate one player as libero for the duration of the tournament. I would then assume that anyone else on that roster would not be eligible to compete as libero. This would then make sense that if a libero is not physically healthy enough to play, a previously non-rostered player may be brought in to fill that role. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 12, 2015 19:04:00 GMT -5
There isn't a setter in the world that blocks and defends like Glass does. Naz, Wolosz, Startseva Umm no. Wolosz is a fairly weak blocker. I think you mean Skorupa. The other two are fine blockers but don't dig nearly as well as Glass. If you add serving, I could see Astartseva's non-setting skills being equal to Glass'. |
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