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Post by JB Southpaw on Apr 19, 2016 6:54:05 GMT -5
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Post by guest2 on Apr 19, 2016 8:14:09 GMT -5
Don't know much about Satterfield but given the ass-kicking he took against Parra/Cabbage that seems like a better result than they had any reason to expect.
Phil and Nick got a reasonably tough pool for an Open. I would love to see the FIVB draw divided into four pots (like in soccer) and then either a blind draw or let the seeded teams pick their pools.
So Phil and Nick would pick one team from the 9-16 range, then the 2 seed would pick etc. (probably unrealistic - but a blind draw would be possible)
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Post by camkerr on Apr 19, 2016 8:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by JB Southpaw on Apr 19, 2016 8:50:05 GMT -5
Don't know much about Satterfield but given the ass-kicking he took against Parra/Cabbage that seems like a better result than they had any reason to expect. Phil and Nick got a reasonably tough pool for an Open. I would love to see the FIVB draw divided into four pots (like in soccer) and then either a blind draw or let the seeded teams pick their pools. So Phil and Nick would pick one team from the 9-16 range, then the 2 seed would pick etc. (probably unrealistic - but a blind draw would be possible) I'd like to see that Satterfield kid play, nice to see more young height coming out. I too thought P&N pool was a bit tough for an open. (wasn't like 2 years ago the Opens were pretty watered down?). If seeds hold, Tri & John should be on opposite sides of the draw, maybe an all american final?
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Post by beavis on Apr 21, 2016 1:37:45 GMT -5
So with Hyden/Bourne's great finish last week and 3-0 in their pool this week, do Gibb/Patterson think that their current lead in the Olympic rankings is insurmountable? Just wondering why they are not playing FIVB?
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Post by guest2 on Apr 21, 2016 5:06:54 GMT -5
So with Hyden/Bourne's great finish last week and 3-0 in their pool this week, do Gibb/Patterson think that their current lead in the Olympic rankings is insurmountable? Just wondering why they are not playing FIVB? Tri was great last week but its hard to believe that John can hold up his end. Maybe he plays his way into the season and they do something, but as nice as last week's run was, who did they really beat? Adrian and Alex? Meanwhile Summer and Lana finally look like doing something. Two very good wins in pool. Even if they lose out from here, thats progress for them
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2016 5:51:40 GMT -5
Also looks like Kerri& April are gonna do things the hard way this tourney....Two 3 set matches in pool play already......
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Post by JB Southpaw on Apr 21, 2016 6:59:24 GMT -5
So with Hyden/Bourne's great finish last week and 3-0 in their pool this week, do Gibb/Patterson think that their current lead in the Olympic rankings is insurmountable? Just wondering why they are not playing FIVB? Tri was great last week but its hard to believe that John can hold up his end. Maybe he plays his way into the season and they do something, but as nice as last week's run was, who did they really beat? Adrian and Alex? Meanwhile Summer and Lana finally look like doing something. Two very good wins in pool. Even if they lose out from here, thats progress for them Yeah, you are right saying "who'd they beat" but they beat all but 1 they faced. (both the other teams that came out of their pool won their 1st round matches, so it was a decent pool) Need a couple Grand Slams before the real peaking order plays out. Don't want to jinx them, but Lane & Summer should win their pool. Fendrick/Sweat won their first 2, but still could come out 3rd. Their are 3 good teams in their pool.
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Post by beavis on Apr 21, 2016 17:01:04 GMT -5
Agreed Guest - those are two really strong performances by Lane/Summer! Meanwhile, Fopma/Hochevar can't even get to the main draw with a pretty weak, Brazil-less field - what's up with them?
Also, I know someone has probably explained this already, but why no Brazilians in China two weeks in a row - something political going on that I am not aware of? Thought they were becoming besties economically!
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Post by klazk on Apr 21, 2016 18:18:42 GMT -5
So with Hyden/Bourne's great finish last week and 3-0 in their pool this week, do Gibb/Patterson think that their current lead in the Olympic rankings is insurmountable? Just wondering why they are not playing FIVB? At this point Gibb/Patterson have to finish 5th in an Open to have it increase their point total at all for qualifying. If they have decent showings at the two remaining Grand Slams (9ths or better), only a podium at an Open increases their qualifying points. So I think they are probably just being strategic with their training and point opportunities. It also is close to a long shot for Hyden/Bourne to make up the point shortage. They are 600 points back and they are replacing, not adding to their point totals. With only a couple slams left, the oppportunities to make up large amounts of points are slim. A 5th at an open increases Hyden/Bourne's point total by 60. Two 5ths 120. Three fifths 120. They basically have to podium to make any real dents in the deficit at Opens.
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Post by beavis on Apr 22, 2016 1:02:46 GMT -5
Thanks so much for the great explanation, Klazk - I did not realize that is how it worked - I actually thought that Hyden/Bourne were just piling up additional points like crazy and would soon catch them!!!
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Post by guest2 on Apr 22, 2016 4:57:51 GMT -5
So this week's 5th is a marginal improvement, but they go down in 2 to the Spaniards who beat them last week. Shame. Phil and Nick in the semis again, but dont seem to be playing that well.
The Latvians gave them trouble last year, but you'd expect Phil/Nick to probably get ths one
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Post by woodandsand on Apr 22, 2016 7:12:18 GMT -5
So this week's 5th is a marginal improvement, but they go down in 2 to the Spaniards who beat them last week. Shame. Phil and Nick in the semis again, but dont seem to be playing that well. The Latvians gave them trouble last year, but you'd expect Phil/Nick to probably get ths one Hyden/Bourne really needed a podium to keep it interesting. A 5th in the big picture is good, needed a bigger point upgrade at this point in the game. They will need to really step it up in the last stretch of tourneys. What does not playing that well mean? Have you seen their matches in China? I do believe Phil/Nick beat Latvia in Long Beach?
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Post by guest2 on Apr 22, 2016 9:27:39 GMT -5
So this week's 5th is a marginal improvement, but they go down in 2 to the Spaniards who beat them last week. Shame. Phil and Nick in the semis again, but dont seem to be playing that well. The Latvians gave them trouble last year, but you'd expect Phil/Nick to probably get ths one Hyden/Bourne really needed a podium to keep it interesting. A 5th in the big picture is good, needed a bigger point upgrade at this point in the game. They will need to really step it up in the last stretch of tourneys. What does not playing that well mean? Have you seen their matches in China? I do believe Phil/Nick beat Latvia in Long Beach? They did, they also lost to them in the Sochi Final Not playing well based on going three with a couple teams you would expect them to handle pretty easily, including one in the playoffs, although they did slap around the Mexican team pretty badly and in both three set matches, after losing one, they won the other two by good margins.
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Post by woodandsand on Apr 22, 2016 17:24:34 GMT -5
Hyden/Bourne really needed a podium to keep it interesting. A 5th in the big picture is good, needed a bigger point upgrade at this point in the game. They will need to really step it up in the last stretch of tourneys. What does not playing that well mean? Have you seen their matches in China? I do believe Phil/Nick beat Latvia in Long Beach? They did, they also lost to them in the Sochi Final Not playing well based on going three with a couple teams you would expect them to handle pretty easily, including one in the playoffs, although they did slap around the Mexican team pretty badly and in both three set matches, after losing one, they won the other two by good margins. So let's see, they are 1-1 with a top FIVB team and even the loss to them in Sochi was very tight, so probably could have went their way. They went 3 a couple times this tourney, but easy victories after 1st set loss. Then slap a good Mexico team in quarters. Sounds like they are playing bad....lol!
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