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Post by ironhammer on Jul 21, 2016 23:45:39 GMT -5
So news are saying IOC might ban the entire Russian contingent from Rio (not just track and field, the area most mired in the performance enhancing drug scandal). This is after a report by WADA on the scale of the systematic and state-backed drug performance program in Russia.
For volleyball, this means Russia might be out as well. Is that going to happen? In that case, who will take Russia's place? What is FIVB's back-up plan? Do they even have one?
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Post by cardinalvolleyball on Jul 22, 2016 2:44:03 GMT -5
The olympics don't have/need a back-up plan. After political unrest, sewage filled waterways and high levels of crime I'm sure one team dropping in one sport isn't even on their radar
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 22, 2016 10:02:10 GMT -5
The olympics don't have/need a back-up plan. After political unrest, sewage filled waterways and high levels of crime I'm sure one team dropping in one sport isn't even on their radar Maybe. But does FIVB think like that as well? I''m not so sure. And are we as volleyball fans sanguine about having that kind of volleyball team drop out? |
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Post by johnbar on Jul 22, 2016 10:13:52 GMT -5
I think a complete ban on Russia is justifiable, given the situation, even though that would punish some innocent athletes.
FIVB could either give all the teams in Russia's pool a win by forfeit, or invite another team to take Russia's spot. Perhaps the highest team in the world rankings that hadn't made it to Rio. I guess it could be a scramble to get ready for that team.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 22, 2016 10:20:55 GMT -5
I think a complete ban on Russia is justifiable, given the situation, even though that would punish some innocent athletes. FIVB could either give all the teams in Russia's pool a win by forfeit, or invite another team to take Russia's spot. Perhaps the highest team in the world rankings that hadn't made it to Rio. I guess it could be a scramble to get ready for that team. I wonder if that happens..anyone want Thailand to join? |
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Post by deacondive on Jul 22, 2016 10:25:13 GMT -5
I think a complete ban on Russia is justifiable, given the situation, even though that would punish some innocent athletes. FIVB could either give all the teams in Russia's pool a win by forfeit, or invite another team to take Russia's spot. Perhaps the highest team in the world rankings that hadn't made it to Rio. I guess it could be a scramble to get ready for that team. I wonder if that happens..anyone want Thailand to join? Thailand or Turkey |
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Post by akbar on Jul 22, 2016 10:42:31 GMT -5
Imo,as said on the men's side, the Track and Field knew and planned since November that they would most likely not be going. For the entire sports federations to be banned 2 weeks before the start would be way too much of a financial and logistic disruption to a olympiad that is already under scrutiny and fiscal distress.
I don't see this happening to any further Russian teams. If penalties come they will be post Olympics.
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 22, 2016 11:17:44 GMT -5
Imo,as said on the men's side, the Track and Field knew and planned since November that they would most likely not be going. For the entire sports federations to be banned 2 weeks before the start would be way too much of a financial and logistic disruption to a olympiad that is already under scrutiny and fiscal distress. I don't see this happening to any further Russian teams. If penalties come they will be post Olympics. Quite possible, IOC will also be worried about Rio losing some of the competitive edge with Russia being absent. More likely they will cave in to pressure from Russia (and her allies) to keep the rest of the Russian squad for Rio. Still, there is significant counter-pressure on IOC to demonstrate their commitment and credibility to the anti-doping cause. WADA is pressuring IOC to draw the line and ban the whole Russian contingent, in order to send a clear and strong message that doping cannot be tolerated. Some of the national federations (i.e. US, Canada, etc) are also urging the IOC to be tough and end the charade once and for all. I'm personally skeptical IOC has the guts to actually ban the whole Russian team, given what I said above. Still, the counter-pressure to ban Russia as a whole is strong. What will the IOC do? In any case, I do wonder what the Russian volleyball team must be thinking now? Knowing there is a chance they would be barred from Rio, even if that likelihood is unknown at this point. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 22, 2016 11:21:28 GMT -5
What's worse? Not testing (Kenya, Jamaica) or testing thoroughly and then covering up the results (Russia)?
I guess in WADA's view, it's the latter.
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Post by deacondive on Jul 22, 2016 11:41:10 GMT -5
Imo,as said on the men's side, the Track and Field knew and planned since November that they would most likely not be going. For the entire sports federations to be banned 2 weeks before the start would be way too much of a financial and logistic disruption to a olympiad that is already under scrutiny and fiscal distress. I don't see this happening to any further Russian teams. If penalties come they will be post Olympics. Quite possible, IOC will also be worried about Rio losing some of the competitive edge with Russia being absent. More likely they will cave in to pressure from Russia (and her allies) to keep the rest of the Russian squad for Rio. Still, there is significant counter-pressure on IOC to demonstrate their commitment and credibility to the anti-doping cause. WADA is pressuring IOC to draw the line and ban the whole Russian contingent, in order to send a clear and strong message that doping cannot be tolerated. Some of the national federations (i.e. US, Canada, etc) are also urging the IOC to be tough and end the charade once and for all. I'm personally skeptical IOC has the guts to actually ban the whole Russian team, given what I said above. Still, the counter-pressure to ban Russia as a whole is strong. What will the IOC do? In any case, I do wonder what the Russian volleyball team must be thinking now? Knowing there is a chance they would be barred from Rio, even if that likelihood is unknown at this point. The one thing that I have complete faith in is that there will be money exchanging hands...corruption at its finest |
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Post by ironhammer on Jul 22, 2016 19:50:35 GMT -5
Quite possible, IOC will also be worried about Rio losing some of the competitive edge with Russia being absent. More likely they will cave in to pressure from Russia (and her allies) to keep the rest of the Russian squad for Rio. Still, there is significant counter-pressure on IOC to demonstrate their commitment and credibility to the anti-doping cause. WADA is pressuring IOC to draw the line and ban the whole Russian contingent, in order to send a clear and strong message that doping cannot be tolerated. Some of the national federations (i.e. US, Canada, etc) are also urging the IOC to be tough and end the charade once and for all. I'm personally skeptical IOC has the guts to actually ban the whole Russian team, given what I said above. Still, the counter-pressure to ban Russia as a whole is strong. What will the IOC do? In any case, I do wonder what the Russian volleyball team must be thinking now? Knowing there is a chance they would be barred from Rio, even if that likelihood is unknown at this point. The one thing that I have complete faith in is that there will be money exchanging hands...corruption at its finest I wonder how much Russia is going to pay the IOC to keep the rest of their Olympic squad at Rio. Are the Russian volleyball team really confident they will make it to Rio? Is Yuri Marichev sweating over the possibility his team is going to get barred? Or are the higher ups giving him "wink wink nudge nudge" look to tell him everything will be "fine". |
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Post by deacondive on Jul 22, 2016 21:23:23 GMT -5
I am about 95% positive Russia will be playing, but if they aren't...will they redo the pools?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2016 17:56:12 GMT -5
Some gymnastics publications and the dailymail.co.uk are reporting that ALL athletes will be banned according to their sources. We officially find out tomorrow, right?
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Post by Not Me on Jul 23, 2016 20:10:47 GMT -5
Volleywood via dailymail is reporting that the Russian teams will be banned.
And: "Serbia should replace the men's team & Thailand/ Turkey in women's. Let's wait for the @fivbvolleyball's statement."
I'm not sure how solid their info is.
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Post by akbar on Jul 23, 2016 21:37:55 GMT -5
That would be stunning news. Wow
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