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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 22, 2016 8:15:56 GMT -5
Cali along the coast in winter months is just fine for volleyball A couple things here as someone who started playing tournaments at 13 well before there were juniors tournaments. Let them play against adults. They will learn a lot, particularly in the mental aspect of the game. Parents now have an obsession with organization etc. but getting your kids into regular outdoor tournaments will be fun for them and will help with a lot of different things. Not limiting yourself to junior events will also make more events available. Also think about grass. For developing skills, nothing beats grass volleyball. You get a billion reps of everything and it carries over to both indoor and beach. As to a paid coach it depends on how much you know about volleyball and how much they have learned. As long as there is someone who understands how to play etc. and can make sure their technique is good then you are right a coach for beach is unnecessary In one of the tourneys this summer, there were only 4 teams signed up - 1 12's, 2 14's and a 16's. Since the nets were up already, we just played a pool and then bracket. My girls had a great time beating the 16's, still finished ties for 3rd. But had a really good time couple things, right now you can get by without a coach. But please research drills for your girls, understanding some skills like hand setting and proper shots are better to get in their system now. Also, don't worry about "beach" so much, if there are grass 2s, get them playing that as well. The 2s is what is important. And on that same note, don't worry about juniors only, get them playing against adults as soon as the can handle it. This website may have some people who you can reach out to. www.waupacaboatride.com/contact.html
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Post by haze on Aug 22, 2016 9:37:31 GMT -5
I would advise a good technical coach for kids. I coached all levels of club and high school, and time and time again I saw kids come up through the grapevine with terrible technique and really bad habits that are ingrained in them in a young age and really really hard to break when they get older. Kids aren't strong enough to do a lot of the technical motions they need and get taught the wrong way. A lot of those kids were taught by parents who played rec ball in the community, thought they knew what they were doing in terms of the game and did a good job with that, but really didn't have any idea how to teach proper technique.
I think there's poor poor coaches in all sports at the youth level right now, and the ignorant dumbass parents who think they know what they're talking about continue to drive the best ones away. Now we got kids in basketball that get to high school and are shooting jumpshots from their chest, not to mention kids getting to college and not even being able to run a simple screen and roll. Football they don't even know how to tackle properly and now we're dealing with this concussion and head injury issues.
I'm generally speaking of course and obviously there are exceptions in every situation.
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Post by downtheline on Aug 22, 2016 9:54:37 GMT -5
Find a wall she can utilize. Touches, touched and more touches ... Play one on one with yourself every day .
Have her & her cousin workout together as much as possible. Develop your own practice and workout plan and go out and do it regularly .
Develop a training program to start to develop muscle memory for the beach game and include warm ups & downs with good stretching routines.
As others have said, play up in age groups to get experience and be battle tested.
Find someone to mentor or coach for them ASAP . Every great athlete needs someone to guide them and the best young beach players have had solid coaching at a young age.
Contact USAV and try and get to their HP workout or tryout in your area. Learn the routines the coaches are doing and repeat those drills back home into your own routines .
Driving and work schedule work around are all part of youth sports & for sure volleyball . We routinely drove an hour each way for practice and many days did triple duty indoor high school , indoor club & beach practices sometimes on the same day. It paid off with all three kids earning full rides...
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Post by guest2 on Aug 22, 2016 10:54:23 GMT -5
More than any of this stuff though, focus on fun. Your kids are young and while learning how to play technically good volleyball is nice, its not particularly important.
One thing the onset of Juniors sports the last 20 years or so has done is it prioritized skill development over the reason kids, and people generally, should play sports - to have fun and compete.
I think its one reason you see so few adult women's players at outdoor events. In theory there should be 10 times as many given how many girls play as opposed to boys. But there arent and thats mostly because the Juniors, high school, college etc. has taken the fun out of the game for so many kids.
I would suggest making sure that at least half the time they play they receive no coaching or supervision at all. Take a book with you and ignore their games
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Post by JB Southpaw on Aug 22, 2016 12:04:10 GMT -5
More than any of this stuff though, focus on fun. Your kids are young and while learning how to play technically good volleyball is nice, its not particularly important. One thing the onset of Juniors sports the last 20 years or so has done is it prioritized skill development over the reason kids, and people generally, should play sports - to have fun and compete. I think its one reason you see so few adult women's players at outdoor events. In theory there should be 10 times as many given how many girls play as opposed to boys. But there arent and thats mostly because the Juniors, high school, college etc. has taken the fun out of the game for so many kids. I would suggest making sure that at least half the time they play they receive no coaching or supervision at all. Take a book with you and ignore their games Agree with this Guest, I've said this to so many people. A girl player growing up, her (and parent's) goal is to get a scholarship to college, we they reach this, some realize they aren't having fun. I've witnessed top college players cry during the season, and want to quit because the joy isn't there.
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Post by BuckysHeat on Aug 22, 2016 12:31:13 GMT -5
I should note that the girls play club and get coaching for those 5 months, they do privates during the summer and both also go to skills camps, this year it was hitting and digging, I missed the setting camp because I did not sign up soon enough. When one stays over at the others house, they are outside peppering and playing together (without being told to, they just want to). So they are getting coaching, I did not want to make it sound like I am against paying people to coach them properly.
I just did not see a reason yet for a beach coach. Thank you all for all of your comments, advice and suggestions. Guest2, you hit it perfectly, they are still having fun. They are only 11, my daughter still wants to to run x-country, play basketball, soccer and softball, my niece wants to play basketball still. I have no idea where they will end up, neither do they. I love watching beach but if she ends up when she is 16 saying I prefer soccer, it will be a hard change but it is her choice.
As you say JB Southpaw, they need to keep the fun
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Post by downtheline on Aug 22, 2016 15:08:15 GMT -5
Who said learning the game properly from the start isn't fun?
The best coaches make learning and training fun.
Beach is fun because there is no bench so everyone plays the entire set(s) & match.
Beach is fun because you learn and utilize diverse skill sets since you must serve, receive, pass, hit, dig, dive and block, as well as communication skills.
Beach is fun because it is less stressful on the joints.
Beach is really fun when you can give up the indoor juggernaut , play a game you love and perhaps even get a great college education. Even without full rides so many girls are getting into schools because of the beach game.
However the skill sets are increasing rapidly . Each year more & more athletes are beach only focused so if there is an aspiration to succeed don't wait too long to get some fun quality training.
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Post by crawdaddy on Aug 22, 2016 17:40:01 GMT -5
Beach volleyball is pretty fun for kids these days. But a few more years of money-hungry, for-profit "beach clubs," overzealous parents desperate for scholarships they probably don't need, an exponential growth in tournaments so kids are competing virtually every weekend and many summer week days as well, college coaches now pressured to produce winning results, and, of course, USAV trying to figure out how they can make a buck out of parents to fund their national teams -- and all of that fun will be sucked bone dry.
We will look back at these innocent days in wonder.
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