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Post by audiovol on Aug 20, 2016 8:48:51 GMT -5
Actually a 2 point loss isn't as close as you think. You would need a 4-0 swing to overcome that deficit and win. Stupidest post I've ever seen. Oh ts actually not that close? Just the closest a volleyball match could possibly get? Go to a 5th set and lose by two? Yeah, you're right. That's actually not as close as I think. Moron. By definition it can't get closer than a 2 point loss. Of course it can't get closer than that in a loss but the perception of how close being behind by 2 points is what I'm analyzing. Yeah if two rallies went differently the score is reversed but they didn't go differently so in the real world, not the coulda woulda shoulda world, it takes winning 4 subsequent rallies to go ahead by the sacred 2. I know you hate my response but I'm really, really close (only 2 "freaking" points different than how you see it) so take it easy! Lol |
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Post by eov4nu on Aug 20, 2016 8:54:31 GMT -5
Have you seen Mikaela Foecke ? .. (freshman MVP of nat. champ. match last year.) It's impossible to deliver a OH beast year after year. I'm very curious what she can produce not only for Nebraska in the next 3 years but also NT in 2020. well, she will need to figure out how to pass if she ever wants to play outside for the national team... Totally agreed, total Husker and Mikaela fan but the current NCAA sub #s, and the Husker's roster of very capable back row players this may never happen because it isn't what is best for the Husker's current system. |
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Post by kc8413 on Aug 20, 2016 9:41:18 GMT -5
I wonder if actually winning a bronze medal is better than a silver because then they finish the Olympics with a victory as opposed to a loss in the gold medal match. Kind of like a catch-22.
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Post by vball20 on Aug 20, 2016 10:29:55 GMT -5
who cares a bronze medal game? It's only a consolation game.
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Post by fightingminime on Aug 20, 2016 12:11:28 GMT -5
Totally agreed, total Husker and Mikaela fan but the current NCAA sub #s, and the Husker's roster of very capable back row players this may never happen because it isn't what is best for the Husker's current system. I think that was the point. Club/HS/College isn't creating well rounded players. Too many ds subs. Better in the short term for letting more girls play in club, better for winning in college, catastrophic for our NT I understand it's the sentiment of the time .. but I disagree to an extent. I think it's a narrow view of the problem. You're talking about 6 pins on the National team ... or I will even grant you 12 pins on the National Training Team. So hundreds of thousands of girls should participate less to play for this one culminating point? There are plenty of athletes playing the game that don't have a prayer of sniffing the National Team. Also ... Murphy, Larson, Robinson ... they've all played all-the-way around for as long as I have watched them, starting in middle school. I can't speak for Lowe or Hill ... I didn't follow their careers closely enough. Easy (Hodge), Fawcett ... these girls played all-the-way-around in college. There are plenty that do. Should Foecke? I think so ... isn't it part of the reason she switched clubs in juniors so she could be playing the correct position and get back row experience? Are there some that should play more? Absolutely. Do I wish every coach who had a possible future Olympian gave them that chance when they were young? Of course! But please don't make blanket statements that blame the group that can't defend themselves for the issues of the National Team. DS'ing a 6'0", 9'7" touching outside on my club team does not affect our National program. But it allows me to play more kids, to make my team love the sport more with their continued succes so they go watch college matches, and watch the National team on tv and continue to grow the sport. And FTR all of my athletes get back-row touches their entire career. The reality is some are just not very good at it. And that's okay. |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 12:25:15 GMT -5
who cares a bronze medal game? It's only a consolation game. It's a metal in the Olympics! What a stupid comment. |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 12:31:21 GMT -5
this idea that US players aren't well rounded because of the liberal sub rules is idiotic. The outsides playing on the NT have been six rotation players their whole careers.
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Post by kokyu on Aug 20, 2016 12:41:48 GMT -5
this idea that US players aren't well rounded because of the liberal sub rules is idiotic. The outsides playing on the NT have been six rotation players their whole careers. If NCAA were international rules then you wouldn't have starting rosters filled with tall hitters who can't pass, ergo hundreds of 5' 10" to 6' 1" players would be given an opportunity to start and develop who never do. |
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Post by vball20 on Aug 20, 2016 12:55:37 GMT -5
who cares a bronze medal game? It's only a consolation game. It's a metal in the Olympics! What a stupid comment. Medal or not, the 3rd place playoff is still a consolation game and is considered a lower-priority match to organisers, |
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Post by Gilmoy on Aug 20, 2016 12:57:07 GMT -5
Of course it can't get closer than that in a loss but the perception of how close being behind by 2 points is what I'm analyzing. ... it takes winning 4 subsequent rallies to go ahead by the sacred 2. I know you hate my response but I'm really, really close (only 2 "freaking" points different than how you see it) so take it easy! You must make 4 reasonable posts in a row to reverse our perception of you! hehe |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 12:57:10 GMT -5
this idea that US players aren't well rounded because of the liberal sub rules is idiotic. The outsides playing on the NT have been six rotation players their whole careers. If NCAA were international rules then you wouldn't have starting rosters filled with tall hitters who can't pass, ergo hundreds of 5' 10" to 6' 1" players would be given an opportunity to start and develop who never do. and those aren't the players who are going to play on the NT. And besides why in the world would the college game change just to "develop" the 3 or 4 outside players who will play on the NT? USA women's National team just won the bronze medal missing out of the championship match by 2 points in the fifth. To state that the country under performs at the Olympic level because of the subbing rules is just plain dumb |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 12:58:14 GMT -5
It's a metal in the Olympics! What a stupid comment. Medal or not, the 3rd place playoff is still a consolation game and is considered a lower-priority match to organisers, and that makes you an idiot. Congrats to the women's NT on a fantastic tournament and finish! |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 13:51:18 GMT -5
this idea that US players aren't well rounded because of the liberal sub rules is idiotic. The outsides playing on the NT have been six rotation players their whole careers. I'm sure you are right. Please contact Pepperdine and have them update the bio for Kim Hill. Please find ONE exception to make a rule |
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Post by moody on Aug 20, 2016 16:25:33 GMT -5
Please find ONE exception to make a rule Only 1 starting OH follows your "rule", so right back at ya. sure tell me which OH on the Olympic team or those close to making the team weren't 6 rotation players in high school, club and college? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 16:30:51 GMT -5
Kim Hill wasn't an OH at Pepperdine, so what's the point, guys? Blame it on Pepperdine for playing her out of position.
If Olympic caliber OHs aren't playing all-around in college and club, THAT is on their coaches, not on the ruleset.
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