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Post by BeiBei on Dec 5, 2016 0:02:58 GMT -5
Will King stay and spend another year backing up Kramer and Alhassan? She could probably get immediate playing time at other top schools. Illinois is losing Stadick, UCLA is losing both middles and USC is losing Ruddins and will be thin in that position next year. I am sure she has no problem beating out Dunn either.
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Post by sevb on Dec 5, 2016 0:09:44 GMT -5
It's interesting how some of us seem to think players will be devastated and view their choice of school as wrong if a national championship isn't won. I suspect the friendships they develop with their teammates, the life lessons they learn from playing and the education they get are what ultimately stick with them regardless of a championship. ^ The motto of teams that don't win championships. Players on championship teams experience all that plus, you know...the championship. What is that 10/11 schools in the history of the championship... I'm sure lots of kids on those other teams found something positive from their experience |
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Post by Sbilo on Dec 5, 2016 0:17:12 GMT -5
LOL at Knop leaving Michigan to play on a team that is more competitive and had a better chance at a National Championship. LOL. She'll be home next week, headband and all, eating popcorn, watching the Michigan Wolverines in Sweet 16 play on..... DUMMY. Maybe she just wanted to play her natural position and not have to be a 5-8 OH in the Big Ten. She still has a better shot to win a title at Florida, which is funny regardless of who you're for in this argument. She has 1 year of eligibility left IIRC and Florida will lose Holston after this season. I think Holston will be a bigger loss than Cole is for Michigan. With that being said, it would take a lot for Florida to win the NC next season with the possibility of new players at the OH2 and RS/Opp. |
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 5, 2016 1:11:35 GMT -5
Will King stay and spend another year backing up Kramer and Alhassan? She could probably get immediate playing time at other top schools. Illinois is losing Stadick, UCLA is losing both middles and USC is losing Ruddins and will be thin in that position next year. I am sure she has no problem beating out Dunn either. Ideally King plays MB next year and Kramer moves to the RS. I'd also dream of Mary figuring out how a 6-2 with Huskey and Monserez could work. Cut the BS and let's put our best lineup out there. MB1-Alhassan 6-4 MB2-King 6-3 RS-Kramer 6-8 OH1-Snyder 6-1 OH2-Hammons 6-2 L-Knop Joseph can literally backup any hitting position on the court, albeit she should leave the OH backup to Greer. Poor Sokolowski, how are we not finding a place for a 6-4 OH?! If anyone should transfer it should be Sokolowski or Kellum. Sokolowski because I just don't know where she's gunna fit. Kellum because she's talented but not quite enough to help Florida win a title. Obviously if they love Florida and want to stay around, we loving having them. They seem like great teammates, athletes and people. By 2018, I feel things may shift around depending how good Warner and Hall really are (apparently, very very). I also see Huskey surpassing Monserez by that time, not that Allie hasn't been great this year, but I just feel like Huskey will be better by then. Of course, the younger Monserez also arrives that year. It could be 2 years of Huskey (2018-2019) followed by 2 years of the youngest Monserez (2020-2021) leading the offense. With that said, I think Mary too often rewards upperclassmen when it should really just be who the best player is. MB1-King MB2-Kramer RS-Warner OH1-Hammons OH2-Hall L-Gregory/Fischer |
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 5, 2016 1:32:00 GMT -5
With Holston graduating, that puts a lot of the weight on Alhassan. IMO, the addition of Hammons doesn't make up for the loss of Holston (at least offensively). Hammons is more of an OH2 and not so much a heavy hitter like Hall or Sun, from what I've seen. Hammons adds her passing skills, which Florida needs desperately (I mean, the last point of Holston's career was a FSU service ace). Florida will be good but other teams will be better...
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Post by kro2488 on Dec 5, 2016 1:50:43 GMT -5
With Holston graduating, that puts a lot of the weight on Alhassan. IMO, the addition of Hammons doesn't make up for the loss of Holston (at least offensively). Hammons is more of an OH2 and not so much a heavy hitter like Hall or Sun, from what I've seen. Hammons adds her passing skills, which Florida needs desperately (I mean, the last point of Holston's career was a FSU service ace). Florida will be good but other teams will be better... It's cliche but it all comes down to passing and serving, two areas we didn't execute well last night. Gunna have to just wait to see how next few years shape out. |
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Post by volleyfan24 on Dec 5, 2016 2:24:12 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Florida fan but I follow them because I feel they get top talent and like Wise. I also feel she is the best chance of a female head coach winning the title in the current landscape. They are a secondary team I root for.
I think Florida fans are being too hard on themselves and the team. Upsets happen FSU got hot Florida got complacent and lost to a rival. Funny things happen in the FSU-Florida rivalry.
The program will have a tough path next year as I feel lots of top teams are getting better but Florida will still be a top 10 squad. Returning Alhassan, Snyder and Knop for one last hurrah bodes well. Losing Holston hurts but they gain Hammons who should secure up the OH2 spot and passing a weakness of Floridas, which means better looks to the middles which is a Florida's strength. Good news they can only go up and after finishing in the round of 32 I don't see Snyder and Alhassan finishing less than the round of 16 next year.
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 5, 2016 3:15:46 GMT -5
I'm not a huge Florida fan but I follow them because I feel they get top talent and like Wise. I also feel she is the best chance of a female head coach winning the title in the current landscape. They are a secondary team I root for. I think Florida fans are being too hard on themselves and the team. Upsets happen FSU got hot Florida got complacent and lost to a rival. Funny things happen in the FSU-Florida rivalry. The program will have a tough path next year as I feel lots of top teams are getting better but Florida will still be a top 10 squad. Returning Alhassan, Snyder and Knop for one last hurrah bodes well. Losing Holston hurts but they gain Hammons who should secure up the OH2 spot and passing a weakness of Floridas, which means better looks to the middles which is a Florida's strength. Good news they can only go up and after finishing in the round of 32 I don't see Snyder and Alhassan finishing less than the round of 16 next year. Thanks for the pick me up.  Since 2010: Sweet 16 (although as the #1 seed), Elite Eight, Sweet 16, Round of 32, Elite Eight, Elite Eight, Round of 32. Both of those R32 losses were to FSU at home in 5 sets.  I cheer for FSU during the year hoping they get a seed because of this nonsense lol. |
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Post by secgator4 on Dec 5, 2016 3:23:43 GMT -5
Since 2010, UF has been knocked out by the following:
Purdue (#1 seed for UF was a debacle, no mental fortitude to come back after losing the first set 28-26)
Illinois in Gville (National Runner-Up)
Texas in Austin (National Champ)
FSU in Gville in 5 sets
Stanford (#1 seed)
Texas in Austin (National Runner-Up)
FSU in Gville in 5 sets.
Not like UF has ever had an easy road recently, not that that's an excuse. But in the last 6 years, they've either lost to FSU, the #1 seed, or the eventual national champ or runner-up.
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Post by superfan1 on Dec 5, 2016 14:01:06 GMT -5
I don't follow Florida as closely as other teams, but I always enjoy watching them play and have a lot of respect for the program Mary has developed. Would this 6-2 be a possibility since Hammons is projected to help with passing?
OH: Hammons, Snyder
MH: Alhassan, King
OPP: Kramer, Joseph
S: Monserez, Huskey
L: Knop
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Post by dawnsong on Dec 5, 2016 14:44:19 GMT -5
LOL at Knop leaving Michigan to play on a team that is more competitive and had a better chance at a National Championship. LOL. She'll be home next week, headband and all, eating popcorn, watching the Michigan Wolverines in Sweet 16 play on..... DUMMY. Former teammates are ruthless. Both of the above comments are unfair and inaccurate. Knop was asked to leave the Michigan Volleyball team. She is no dummy, but apparently exercised some poor judgment. She was a valued and beloved player at Michigan and there was considerable despair among staff, teammates, and fans around her departure. I don't believe any of them would gloat about the situation here. |
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Post by firedup on Dec 5, 2016 16:13:25 GMT -5
Will King stay and spend another year backing up Kramer and Alhassan? She could probably get immediate playing time at other top schools. Illinois is losing Stadick, UCLA is losing both middles and USC is losing Ruddins and will be thin in that position next year. I am sure she has no problem beating out Dunn either. Ideally King plays MB next year and Kramer moves to the RS. I'd also dream of Mary figuring out how a 6-2 with Huskey and Monserez could work. Cut the BS and let's put our best lineup out there. MB1-Alhassan 6-4 MB2-King 6-3 RS-Kramer 6-8 OH1-Snyder 6-1 OH2-Hammons 6-2 L-Knop Joseph can literally backup any hitting position on the court, albeit she should leave the OH backup to Greer. Poor Sokolowski, how are we not finding a place for a 6-4 OH?! If anyone should transfer it should be Sokolowski or Kellum. Sokolowski because I just don't know where she's gunna fit. Kellum because she's talented but not quite enough to help Florida win a title. Obviously if they love Florida and want to stay around, we loving having them. They seem like great teammates, athletes and people. By 2018, I feel things may shift around depending how good Warner and Hall really are (apparently, very very). I also see Huskey surpassing Monserez by that time, not that Allie hasn't been great this year, but I just feel like Huskey will be better by then. Of course, the younger Monserez also arrives that year. It could be 2 years of Huskey (2018-2019) followed by 2 years of the youngest Monserez (2020-2021) leading the offense. With that said, I think Mary too often rewards upperclassmen when it should really just be who the best player is. MB1-King MB2-Kramer RS-Warner OH1-Hammons OH2-Hall L-Gregory/Fischer What BS are you referring to? That somehow Florida suffered by not running a 6-2 in 2016? You do realize that Florida led the nation, by a WIDE margin in hitting percentage right? Yes, a lot of factors go into that, starting with first contact (which amazes me about the negativity on here about how poor Florida's passing was) as well as the ability of attackers to score, but linking all those elements is the decision making and abilities of the setter. Monserez did a great job this season, and while I also like Huskey's game very much, for anyone to think that Florida was limited by running a 5-1 this season is perplexing to me. Allie played very well and is a fantastic athlete and setter. |
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Post by wayout on Dec 5, 2016 16:26:32 GMT -5
Ideally King plays MB next year and Kramer moves to the RS. I'd also dream of Mary figuring out how a 6-2 with Huskey and Monserez could work. Cut the BS and let's put our best lineup out there. MB1-Alhassan 6-4 MB2-King 6-3 RS-Kramer 6-8 OH1-Snyder 6-1 OH2-Hammons 6-2 L-Knop Joseph can literally backup any hitting position on the court, albeit she should leave the OH backup to Greer. Poor Sokolowski, how are we not finding a place for a 6-4 OH?! If anyone should transfer it should be Sokolowski or Kellum. Sokolowski because I just don't know where she's gunna fit. Kellum because she's talented but not quite enough to help Florida win a title. Obviously if they love Florida and want to stay around, we loving having them. They seem like great teammates, athletes and people. By 2018, I feel things may shift around depending how good Warner and Hall really are (apparently, very very). I also see Huskey surpassing Monserez by that time, not that Allie hasn't been great this year, but I just feel like Huskey will be better by then. Of course, the younger Monserez also arrives that year. It could be 2 years of Huskey (2018-2019) followed by 2 years of the youngest Monserez (2020-2021) leading the offense. With that said, I think Mary too often rewards upperclassmen when it should really just be who the best player is. MB1-King MB2-Kramer RS-Warner OH1-Hammons OH2-Hall L-Gregory/Fischer What BS are you referring to? That somehow Florida suffered by not running a 6-2 in 2016? You do realize that Florida led the nation, by a WIDE margin in hitting percentage right? Yes, a lot of factors go into that, starting with first contact (which amazes me about the negativity on here about how poor Florida's passing was) as well as the ability of attackers to score, but linking all those elements is the decision making and abilities of the setter. Monserez did a great job this season, and while I also like Huskey's game very much, for anyone to think that Florida was limited by running a 5-1 this season is perplexing to me. Allie played very well and is a fantastic athlete and setter. Holston was also really effective out of the back row, would there have been a front row RS that would have been more effective then Holston back row? |
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 5, 2016 16:31:00 GMT -5
I think if Huxley were to be catching Monserez, then she would've gotten more playing time. Has there ever been at setter to sit behind a starter for 2 years and then win the starting spot with that person still on the team? Also, if detering wouldve stayed, Huskey wouldn't have even been setting the B team.
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Post by ballvolley on Dec 5, 2016 18:14:58 GMT -5
The loss to FSU was disappointing, especially since it was such a dominate performance in the first 2 sets. The Gators had it under control in set 3, but they opened the door just enough to let FSU (who are very talented) do their thing, then the passing got ugly. Mental breakdowns are part of athletics -- just a shame that happened at home and in the 2nd round.
Next year... time will tell, but I think life post-Alex will be just fine. Different, but fine.
The OH:
Snyder keeps getting better every year, and I'll bet she'll be in 1st or 2nd AA form in 2017, especially after such a terrible last play. And don't count out Greer -- she has a full off-season to build on her freshman experience. She was low-error vs FSU, but also failed to terminate consistently -- perhaps more playing time would have had her more effective on Friday, but hard to tell. Mia is TBD -- we haven't seen her play, yet she's been training as a Gator for a full year now. Her size is appealing, but can she terminate *and* pass? My guess is Hammons will eventually win the spot. Mary has a way of letting an upper classman get the starting nod early, then work in the highly touted freshman. What she brings, though, is elite passing and defense, plus good size and hitting range. If she can register 2 kps and hit above .200, then we're already in much better shape. I predict Greer starts early, and Hammons comes off the bench then takes over shortly thereafter, with Mia backing up Joseph.
The Opp:
Alex leaves a major hole, mostly because of her back-row attacking. But they really needed that, especially since they gave no slide attack at all. I think Joseph gets the nod. Her block should be solid, and if Kramer is still the M2, Joseph can run off of one foot (something she's skilled at and did well when she was the 3rd MB). Plus with Hammons, Greer, and Mia, there's enough experienced depth to pull her if she performs like this season. Kramer's lack of lateral quickness and size make her interesting for the right side, but I think she'll stay in the middle. If she can add 1.2 bps to her .500+ hitting, I'm good with her returning as the M2.
The MB:
Alhassan *must* add a slide to her repertoire. She's an elite block and 1-ball hitter, but she needs to develop more range as an attacker. I still have money on King taking a redshirt. Mary's a great salesperson, and that would give her 3 full years as the M1 -- I can't imagine her playing the 3rd slot for a 2nd year in a row next year. If that's the case, then Kellum is the first off the bench her last 2 years, which might work for her. She could certainly start and a number of other schools, so we'll see how much she loves the orange and blue. Per above, Kramer has the versatility to play on the right, but it's likely for just 1 season with Warner coming in.
The S:
Monserez deserves a lot of credit. It's no small feat to leading the nation in assists and quarterback the most efficient hitting team in the NCAA. That said, I do wish Mary would land another setter like McGinnis (I know Murphy set, but I really view her as an elite 6-rotation opposite). I think Monserez is a lock to start next year, as I frankly don't think Huskey has the setting chops yet. She puts up a serious block and could be an offensive threat, but her delivery is inconsistent, and she struggles with 1-option passes. A 6-2....ugh, please not again. Mary has had plenty of years where a setter waits 2 years for her turn, but if the younger Monserez is the real deal (no idea if she is), then it could be a long 4 years for Huskey.
The LIB:
C.K. was *pissed* after that loss, and blamed herself. She's a gym rat, so my guess is she'll have all of the DS's hyper focused in the off-season. While their passing broke down Friday and a few key times this season, on the whole she, Gregory, and Snyder did a solid job. Add a great passer like Hammons, and the core gets even better. Gregory will likely move to the right-back sub if Hammons earns the spot, or Greer evolves to be 6-rotation. Will Alex gone, they'll need more back-row attacking options than just Snyder.
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I cheer for FSU during the year hoping they get a seed because of this nonsense lol.
