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Post by secgator4 on Dec 5, 2016 18:53:00 GMT -5
Ideally King plays MB next year and Kramer moves to the RS. I'd also dream of Mary figuring out how a 6-2 with Huskey and Monserez could work. Cut the BS and let's put our best lineup out there. MB1-Alhassan 6-4 MB2-King 6-3 RS-Kramer 6-8 OH1-Snyder 6-1 OH2-Hammons 6-2 L-Knop Joseph can literally backup any hitting position on the court, albeit she should leave the OH backup to Greer. Poor Sokolowski, how are we not finding a place for a 6-4 OH?! If anyone should transfer it should be Sokolowski or Kellum. Sokolowski because I just don't know where she's gunna fit. Kellum because she's talented but not quite enough to help Florida win a title. Obviously if they love Florida and want to stay around, we loving having them. They seem like great teammates, athletes and people. By 2018, I feel things may shift around depending how good Warner and Hall really are (apparently, very very). I also see Huskey surpassing Monserez by that time, not that Allie hasn't been great this year, but I just feel like Huskey will be better by then. Of course, the younger Monserez also arrives that year. It could be 2 years of Huskey (2018-2019) followed by 2 years of the youngest Monserez (2020-2021) leading the offense. With that said, I think Mary too often rewards upperclassmen when it should really just be who the best player is. MB1-King MB2-Kramer RS-Warner OH1-Hammons OH2-Hall L-Gregory/Fischer What BS are you referring to? That somehow Florida suffered by not running a 6-2 in 2016? You do realize that Florida led the nation, by a WIDE margin in hitting percentage right? Yes, a lot of factors go into that, starting with first contact (which amazes me about the negativity on here about how poor Florida's passing was) as well as the ability of attackers to score, but linking all those elements is the decision making and abilities of the setter. Monserez did a great job this season, and while I also like Huskey's game very much, for anyone to think that Florida was limited by running a 5-1 this season is perplexing to me. Allie played very well and is a fantastic athlete and setter. Yeah honestly my placement of that statement wasn't the best. My BS comment was more about King and Kramer's roles next year than the 6-2. But I feel like we have sooo much talent, I don't get why there's a liability anywhere. |
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Post by Northern lights on Dec 5, 2016 18:58:23 GMT -5
Former teammates are ruthless. Both of the above comments are unfair and inaccurate. Knop was asked to leave the Michigan Volleyball team. She is no dummy, but apparently exercised some poor judgment. She was a valued and beloved player at Michigan and there was considerable despair among staff, teammates, and fans around her departure. I don't believe any of them would gloat about the situation here. Thank you for telling the truth. CK is a good kid, and sometimes kids make mistakes. As for Florida, every time I watch them play, which is not often; I am left feeling that Alhassan could contribute more offensively. I know she hits over .400, but the volume should go up. She is a rare talent. |
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Post by liquid running on Dec 5, 2016 19:22:51 GMT -5
Both of the above comments are unfair and inaccurate. Knop was asked to leave the Michigan Volleyball team. She is no dummy, but apparently exercised some poor judgment. She was a valued and beloved player at Michigan and there was considerable despair among staff, teammates, and fans around her departure. I don't believe any of them would gloat about the situation here. Thank you for telling the truth. CK is a good kid, and sometimes kids make mistakes. As for Florida, every time I watch them play, which is not often; I am left feeling that Alhassan could contribute more offensively. I know she hits over .400, but the volume should go up. She is a rare talent. Part of the issue with Alhassan is on the setters. Dagostino was notorious for setting her too low. Monserez is better but still sets her low several times a match. |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2016 13:05:55 GMT -5
My honest opinion is...next year will be Florida's last legitimate shot at a Final Four for a few years. Rhamat and Carli are seniors next year (so are CK, Dubiel and Joseph) and I don't see them going out with anything less than the Elite Eight. I do believe Rhamat needs to develop a slide attack but she was a junior this year and rarely did it so I doubt we'll see it in her senior year. Developing her ability to hit a gap set (or a 3 ball) could increase her skills though. I (personally) would move Rhamat to MB2, King to MB1 (because she can hit a 1 or crush the slide), start Sokolowski at Opp (6'4 is 6'4), Carli at OH1 and Greer at OH2 (Mary made a huge mistake taking her in and out of the lineup this season, give her a chance). Back row: CK, Carli, Gregory and either Dubiel or Hammons. Passing should be the focus until the Vert Challenge next year when they face both Texas and Nebraska.
(I'm aware that this lineup will never happen. I just believe it would be extremely effective.)
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Dec 16, 2016 13:12:08 GMT -5
My honest opinion is...next year will be Florida's last legitimate shot at a Final Four for a few years. Rhamat and Carli are seniors next year (so are CK, Dubiel and Joseph) and I don't see them going out with anything less than the Elite Eight. I do believe Rhamat needs to develop a slide attack but she was a junior this year and rarely did it so I doubt we'll see it in her senior year. Developing her ability to hit a gap set (or a 3 ball) could increase her skills though. I (personally) would move Rhamat to MB2, King to MB1 (because she can hit a 1 or crush the slide), start Sokolowski at Opp (6'4 is 6'4), Carli at OH1 and Greer at OH2 (Mary made a huge mistake taking her in and out of the lineup this season, give her a chance). Back row: CK, Carli, Gregory and either Dubiel or Hammons. Passing should be the focus until the Vert Challenge next year when they face both Texas and Nebraska. (I'm aware that this lineup will never happen. I just believe it would be extremely effective.) I don't see Greer starting. She just didn't get the job done when given the opportunity this year |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2016 13:21:50 GMT -5
Not really her fault when she gets put in for one set every third match. When she played the full match against Oregon she did a pretty good job (not a lot of kills but she took smart swings). Had she been given more of a chance to find consistency on the left side rather than sit behind a RS who was "finding her way" on the left, she might have been more prepared and taken smarter swings. That and the fact that she was rarely set in system.
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Post by secsportsfan on Dec 16, 2016 15:10:24 GMT -5
I actually hope they do a 6-2 with Kramer and Joseph as the RS, Hammons and Snyder as OH, and King and Alhassan as MB, but I doubt that'll happen. I'm sure Sokolowski and Huskey will ride the bench again, then they will transfer and start at another program and do very, very well and UF will have (as always) bumps in the road and Mary will be kicking herself in the rear for yet again letting good players get away.
So what I would like to see is...
OH- Snyder
OH- Hammons
MB- Rhamat
MB- King
RS- Joseph, Kramer
S- Monserez, Huskey
L- Knop
But what I'm sure will happen is
OH- Snyder
OH- Greer until about 4 matches in, then Hammons
MB- Alhassan
MB- Kramer
RS- Joseph
S- Monserez
L- Knop
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Post by secsportsfan on Dec 16, 2016 15:11:24 GMT -5
To me, the first lineup is much stronger ^^ but hey, I'm not the coach
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Post by Disc808 on Dec 16, 2016 15:15:26 GMT -5
Why can't Wise just start her freshmen right out of the gates? There's no point in not letting them get playing time against good competition. Unless she's desperate for wins, but Hammons is a baller and knows how to play
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Post by secsportsfan on Dec 16, 2016 15:28:59 GMT -5
Why can't Wise just start her freshmen right out of the gates? There's no point in not letting them get playing time against good competition. Unless she's desperate for wins, but Hammons is a baller and knows how to play I hope hope hooopeee Hammons starts out the gate. UF desperately needed a terminating OH2 this season, and the fact that Hammons is a good passer/defender is only a bonus for next year. |
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Post by ballvolley on Dec 16, 2016 16:08:26 GMT -5
If there is a volleyGod, Mary will not run a 6-2. Still recovering from the Murphy years.
Pragmatically, this what should happen:
OHs: SNYDER/HAMMONS
- I think having two 6-rot OHs is a must, especially since they lose a (mostly) 6 rotation opposite in Holston. Hammons has some major expectations to meet, but if you've seen her YNT footage she really has the skills and poise to come in straight away. Adding great passing and defense won't hurt.
MBs: ALHASSAN/KING
- We all know Alhassan got robbed in terms of her 3rd team AA status, so hopefully she'll let that, plus (and more importantly) the early NCAA exit motivate her to be a more dynamic offensive middle (read: SLIDE). Kramer's hitting % was terrific, but she's a commit blocker at best. So, I think King as the M1 (she can hit all attacks, and her slide could be lethal, and is a strong blocker) and Alhassan as the M2 (though I'm sure she's M1 to stay).
Opposite: KRAMER
- I think Lutz has proven that a 6-8 right side converted from the middle can work well. Kramer isn't as mobile, but reminds me so much of Lutz. I think she'd be an amazing pin wall, and can also hit quicks in serve receive and free ball transition. But it would be game changing if she became skilled as a Nwanebu-esque RS attack (flat, fast, to the pin). Joseph has solid blocking chops, and her energy can be great, but the offense productivity makes me nervous. However, she's good off one foot, and could bring more dimension, plus hit quicks in serve receive. Sokolowski is the (distant) wildcard. At 6-4 she splits the height difference of the other two, but she's yet to play a point of college volleyball. Whomever gets it, Gregory is the DS, and Florida loses the RS back row attack (unless Hammons or Synder plays right back for a couple of rotations).
Setter: MONSEREZ
- Unless Huskey improves leaps and bounds in the off-season, I think the 5-1 stays locked with Monserez. Had Florida gone further she might have made an AA team (nation-leading hitting % and APS), but that aside she runs a good offense and isn't too much of a blocking liability. Huskey is too inconsistent placement-wise, but we'll see what the spring brings.
Libero: CK
- She's mad, and hopefully that will result in Hentz-like determination to keep the ship sailing passing/defense-wise.
Team: SEC Champs, Elite Eight, or a Final 4 semis return/exit if they over-achieve
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Post by curiousvolleyballdad on Dec 16, 2016 16:21:00 GMT -5
If there is a volleyGod, Mary will not run a 6-2. Still recovering from the Murphy years. Pragmatically, this what should happen: OHs: SNYDER/HAMMONS - I think having two 6-rot OHs is a must, especially since they lose a (mostly) 6 rotation opposite in Holston. Hammons has some major expectations to meet, but if you've seen her YNT footage she really has the skills and poise to come in straight away. Adding great passing and defense won't hurt. MBs: ALHASSAN/KING - We all know Alhassan got robbed in terms of her 3rd team AA status, so hopefully she'll let that, plus (and more importantly) the early NCAA exit motivate her to be a more dynamic offensive middle (read: SLIDE). Kramer's hitting % was terrific, but she's a commit blocker at best. So, I think King as the M1 (she can hit all attacks, and her slide could be lethal, and is a strong blocker) and Alhassan as the M2 (though I'm sure she's M1 to stay). Opposite: KRAMER - I think Lutz has proven that a 6-8 right side converted from the middle can work well. Kramer isn't as mobile, but reminds me so much of Lutz. I think she'd be an amazing pin wall, and can also hit quicks in serve receive and free ball transition. But it would be game changing if she became skilled as a Nwanebu-esque RS attack (flat, fast, to the pin). Joseph has solid blocking chops, and her energy can be great, but the offense productivity makes me nervous. However, she's good off one foot, and could bring more dimension, plus hit quicks in serve receive. Sokolowski is the (distant) wildcard. At 6-4 she splits the height difference of the other two, but she's yet to play a point of college volleyball. Whomever gets it, Gregory is the DS, and Florida loses the RS back row attack (unless Hammons or Synder plays right back for a couple of rotations). Setter: MONSEREZ - Unless Huskey improves leaps and bounds in the off-season, I think the 5-1 stays locked with Monserez. Had Florida gone further she might have made an AA team (nation-leading hitting % and APS), but that aside she runs a good offense and isn't too much of a blocking liability. Huskey is too inconsistent placement-wise, but we'll see what the spring brings. Libero: CK - She's mad, and hopefully that will result in Hentz-like determination to keep the ship sailing passing/defense-wise. Team: SEC Champs, Elite Eight, or a Final 4 semis return/exit if they over-achieve Well said!! |
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Post by eastcoastopp on Dec 16, 2016 18:27:53 GMT -5
If there is a volleyGod, Mary will not run a 6-2. Still recovering from the Murphy years. Pragmatically, this what should happen: OHs: SNYDER/HAMMONS - I think having two 6-rot OHs is a must, especially since they lose a (mostly) 6 rotation opposite in Holston. Hammons has some major expectations to meet, but if you've seen her YNT footage she really has the skills and poise to come in straight away. Adding great passing and defense won't hurt. MBs: ALHASSAN/KING - We all know Alhassan got robbed in terms of her 3rd team AA status, so hopefully she'll let that, plus (and more importantly) the early NCAA exit motivate her to be a more dynamic offensive middle (read: SLIDE). Kramer's hitting % was terrific, but she's a commit blocker at best. So, I think King as the M1 (she can hit all attacks, and her slide could be lethal, and is a strong blocker) and Alhassan as the M2 (though I'm sure she's M1 to stay). Opposite: KRAMER - I think Lutz has proven that a 6-8 right side converted from the middle can work well. Kramer isn't as mobile, but reminds me so much of Lutz. I think she'd be an amazing pin wall, and can also hit quicks in serve receive and free ball transition. But it would be game changing if she became skilled as a Nwanebu-esque RS attack (flat, fast, to the pin). Joseph has solid blocking chops, and her energy can be great, but the offense productivity makes me nervous. However, she's good off one foot, and could bring more dimension, plus hit quicks in serve receive. Sokolowski is the (distant) wildcard. At 6-4 she splits the height difference of the other two, but she's yet to play a point of college volleyball. Whomever gets it, Gregory is the DS, and Florida loses the RS back row attack (unless Hammons or Synder plays right back for a couple of rotations). Setter: MONSEREZ - Unless Huskey improves leaps and bounds in the off-season, I think the 5-1 stays locked with Monserez. Had Florida gone further she might have made an AA team (nation-leading hitting % and APS), but that aside she runs a good offense and isn't too much of a blocking liability. Huskey is too inconsistent placement-wise, but we'll see what the spring brings. Libero: CK - She's mad, and hopefully that will result in Hentz-like determination to keep the ship sailing passing/defense-wise. Team: SEC Champs, Elite Eight, or a Final 4 semis return/exit if they over-achieve Glad someone agrees with me about the MH1 and MH2. I'm still a firm believer that this isn't the right offense for Joseph to thrive but we will see I guess. Honestly surprised Mary doesn't have her hitters training multiple positions (i.e Stanford). Also would put my money on Sokolowski seeing playing time before Greer (and I hate to say it but I believe she will transfer her junior year unless she becomes a dynamic passer and takes the OH2 after Carli is gone). |
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Post by curiousvolleyballdad on Dec 16, 2016 20:56:16 GMT -5
With all of the talent coming in the next couple years it will be interesting to see how Wise uses it. So many options.
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Post by Wjordan078 on Dec 16, 2016 22:46:17 GMT -5
I agree that Rhamat needs to develop a slide. However, it must be noted that the plan was for her to work extensively on it during the off season, which she did a little bit. When she did play, there were a few attempts during spring match with her and Dettering. However, as mentioned during a few broadcasts this year, her off-season surgery and time with team USA this summer made it difficult to work on it as much as Mary would have liked.. There were attempts here and there throughout the season to run the slide but the connection wasn't there. Some were just bad sets and others were just evident discomfort on Rhamat'a behalf. There was only one behind the setter attack that I can recall Rhamat actually crushing. Even then, it wasn't a true slide as much as it was Allie getting pulled to left front because of a terrible pass and a back set to a Rhamat being the only option. The one thing the surprised me is that she isn't naturally a slide hitter, given her background in basketball. I'm hoping for a healthy off season and a strong development of that skill for her.
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