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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 26, 2017 9:25:15 GMT -5
I'm going to say Bull to this. She has worked hard the last few months to get back in shape. In her mind, she was prepared to go the whole season, now she should just go back to the couch? Especially after reaching the medal round last week. That isn't what competitors do. I think her and Emily have a great shot at getting out of pool. I didn't mean it like that. Should have clarified that it would have to be more money motivated than points. The points would be irrelevant for her and Kerri's partnership. Yes she has worked hard and has earned the opportunity. Ok, gotcha.
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Post by tree on Jul 26, 2017 10:04:37 GMT -5
I really do not see why everyone is upset about what Brit said. I am sure she is not the only player who feels this way. Maybe she could have replied a little nicer to the little ones about Kerri and her opinions but I think as usual things are being blown up to be more than they are.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 26, 2017 10:32:00 GMT -5
I really do not see why everyone is upset about what Brit said. I am sure she is not the only player who feels this way. Maybe she could have replied a little nicer to the little ones about Kerri and her opinions but I think as usual things are being blown up to be more than they are. I agree. Kerri gets her opinion but no one else does? Brit's quote in the article didn't single anyone out. The Author chose what quotes to use, if he wanted a one sided article he could have done that.
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Post by beavis on Jul 26, 2017 10:32:09 GMT -5
Certainly was not appropriate to bash another player to some young kids, but I see absolutely nothing wrong with Hochevar's comments in this article - two entirely different situations, in my opinion!
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Post by ajm on Jul 26, 2017 11:01:38 GMT -5
I really do not see why everyone is upset about what Brit said. I am sure she is not the only player who feels this way. Maybe she could have replied a little nicer to the little ones about Kerri and her opinions but I think as usual things are being blown up to be more than they are. I agree. Kerri gets her opinion but no one else does? Brit's quote in the article didn't single anyone out. The Author chose what quotes to use, if he wanted a one sided article he could have done that. I have no problem with what Brit said in the article either, but let's not pretend we don't know exactly who she is talking about. My larger point was just that the article was poorly written. It seems to be saying that beach volleyball is in trouble, and the WSOVB can save it. But most of the quotes don't really support that and were probably taken out of context.
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Post by tamz on Jul 26, 2017 11:03:40 GMT -5
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 26, 2017 11:57:30 GMT -5
I agree. Kerri gets her opinion but no one else does? Brit's quote in the article didn't single anyone out. The Author chose what quotes to use, if he wanted a one sided article he could have done that. I have no problem with what Brit said in the article either, but let's not pretend we don't know exactly who she is talking about. My larger point was just that the article was poorly written. It seems to be saying that beach volleyball is in trouble, and the WSOVB can save it. But most of the quotes don't really support that and were probably taken out of context. I agree, not the best written piece no matter what side you think is right.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jul 26, 2017 12:07:00 GMT -5
I really do not see why everyone is upset about what Brit said. I am sure she is not the only player who feels this way. Maybe she could have replied a little nicer to the little ones about Kerri and her opinions but I think as usual things are being blown up to be more than they are. I agree. Kerri gets her opinion but no one else does? Brit's quote in the article didn't single anyone out. The Author chose what quotes to use, if he wanted a one sided article he could have done that. At some point, Kerri will no longer be able to keep her public persona and actual persona so different.
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Post by donnyw on Jul 26, 2017 12:19:41 GMT -5
I agree. Kerri gets her opinion but no one else does? Brit's quote in the article didn't single anyone out. The Author chose what quotes to use, if he wanted a one sided article he could have done that. At some point, Kerri will no longer be able to keep her public persona and actual persona so different. Probably at the point she is sitting in one of the front offices of USA 🇺🇸 Volleyball...Just throwing it out there..
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Post by haze on Jul 26, 2017 13:11:03 GMT -5
At some point, Kerri will no longer be able to keep her public persona and actual persona so different. Probably at the point she is sitting in one of the front offices of USA 🇺🇸 Volleyball...Just throwing it out there.. I think she certainty has a well earned career in volleyball after she's done playing, but I really hope it's not with USAV. With all due respect to her, I would not want someone making subjective decisions for the future of USA volleyball when all party's from FIVB, NORCECA, and AVP, are involved and there's been a clear-cut conflict of interest between them.
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Post by johnbar on Jul 26, 2017 13:22:46 GMT -5
Just read this. Writer seems confused. The first WSOBV was in 2013, so quite a while after the London Olympics (though I guess Kerri could have been promoting right after the Olympics). But there were only four real WSOBV events before this year's exhibition, not five. And then this: "The WSOBV is organized like an AVP event, but has been able to host FIVB competition that doubles as Olympic qualification." How was the WSOBV organized like an AVP event? Nonsense.
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Post by wang pu on Jul 26, 2017 13:46:27 GMT -5
Well, they are guaranteed splitting 3.4K, so with USAV covering expenses It's not too bad of a week's worth of work. If you get out of Pool (17th), it's the same as taking a 3rd in the AVP $$ wise. Em Day said she had to use 30,000 frequent flyer miles to book her trip to Vienna. That's probably $1000 in value right there. So it doesn't sound like USAV is paying for travel expenses. Most likely Emily Day is not one of the athletes who receive funding from USAV. That brings another question I have....if it is the top 4 teams (assuming it is 4 teams) that are provided funding and stipends, when are the top 4 decided and what happens in case of injury or break up? Is it a fluid ranking?
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Post by guest2 on Jul 26, 2017 13:47:08 GMT -5
Just read this. Writer seems confused. The first WSOBV was in 2013, so quite a while after the London Olympics (though I guess Kerri could have been promoting right after the Olympics). But there were only four real WSOBV events before this year's exhibition, not five. And then this: "The WSOBV is organized like an AVP event, but has been able to host FIVB competition that doubles as Olympic qualification." How was the WSOBV organized like an AVP event? Nonsense. I think JB mentioned it but its just terribly written, unclear who the disputes are between or about, why the writer thinks this year's WSOBV didn't work, that the President's Cup and the WSOBV are the same thing is not made clear. The author also mentions that April signed and Kerri didn't but gives no more context. Finally this passage makes zero sense: "The WSOBV is positioned perfectly to tie the schedule back together. It is centrally located and can be moved to any weekend in the summer to accommodate FIVB and AVP schedules." Long Beach is centrally located to who and what?
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Post by wang pu on Jul 26, 2017 13:47:56 GMT -5
A couple of reasons....Nicole needs points...Kerri already has points....Nicole expects Kerri to be back in 2018 based on past history....What better way to start building points than with someone like Emily who she has the potential to do well with until & if Kerri returns. This goes back to the question of how individual points affect team points? For example, gibb/taylor don't somehow have extra points because of their previous fivb partnership and results. They are ranked according to team finishes. This seems like purely money move for Branagh which you can't blame her. Unless day would leave hochevar for Branagh if kerri doesn't come back, which I don't think she would. Don't they take the sum of the two players individual points to determine entry points and seeding points?
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Post by haze on Jul 26, 2017 14:07:16 GMT -5
Em Day said she had to use 30,000 frequent flyer miles to book her trip to Vienna. That's probably $1000 in value right there. So it doesn't sound like USAV is paying for travel expenses. Most likely Emily Day is not one of the athletes who receive funding from USAV. That brings another question I have....if it is the top 4 teams (assuming it is 4 teams) that are provided funding and stipends, when are the top 4 decided and what happens in case of injury or break up? Is it a fluid ranking? I believe it's anyone who is in the main draw for that particular tournament. Reserve and qualifier teams do not get funding. They are sending Crabb and Drost to the 2 star event, I would imagine they are getting funded for it.
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