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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 15:49:50 GMT -5
You don't need the M2 to be an offensive threat if the other four attackers can handle the load. She just needs to get touches on the block and not make errors. You probably give up something offensively by moving Rettke. So, it's finding a balance. Is the gain of Rettke in place of Duello more than the loss of Shanahan for Rettke? Is Wisconsin a stronger team with Rettke at M2 and Duello at OPP vs. with Rettke at OPP and Shanahan at M2? Well, we certainly know they're not a top team in the former configuration. A team expecting to ride their freshman M2 to big-time wins in the Big Ten is going to be pretty frustrated, I think.
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Post by nutty on Oct 10, 2017 15:51:19 GMT -5
If Loberg is not playing, I assume it's not out of any loyalty to Duello or Gillis. She's just not ready. And Gillis is?
| Sets | K | E | TA | MSU | 5 | 10 | 6 | 44 | Michigan | 3 | 11 | 3 | 24 | Iowa | 3 | 8 | 1 | 17 | Nebraska | 5 | 13 | 8 | 40 | Minnesota | 5 | 12 | 10 | 52 | Michigan State | 4 | 16 | 7 | 40 | TOTAL | 25 | 70 - 2.80 kps | 35 | 217 - hitting .161 |
Fun fact: together, Duello and Gillis are hitting .138 with 1.88 kills per set in Big Ten play - combined. That's just not going to do it. I am the first person who wants to see more of Loberg. But, again, I don't see what Sheff is seeing. There has to be some reason he's staying with Gillis and Duello. I think you could see in one match where you sensed he thought more of Loberg than Duello as an offensive threat, but definitely still felt Duello was a better option defensively and serving. Gillis was supposedly reaching new heights of performance in spring and training camp prior to yet another ankle injury. Maybe he is waiting on her to get back to that level. I really don't know. She was especially frustratingly ineffective against Minnesota. Totally worthless in that match, in fact. I was shocked her hitting % when I saw the stats still managed to be in positive territory
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Post by durtpile on Oct 10, 2017 15:53:46 GMT -5
With all the expertise shown by cheese weasel fans, I find it hard to believe the Sheffield hasn't instituted some kind of volunteer coach program to be able to release a little of that wisdom and marvelous insight into the program.
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Post by Floyd R. Turbo on Oct 10, 2017 16:11:29 GMT -5
The Huskers aren't going undefeated in the Big Ten and this is as likely a place as any to drop one. If Nebraska makes it through this match, they have a very good shot at running the table. No more Minnesota, no more Penn State, @ MSU, @ Purdue would be their toughest matches left. They still get Rutgers 2x, Maryland 2x, Indiana, Northwestern, Iowa... so far they have gotten 'up' for the big matches since Hunter has been back. No reason to see that changing now. I think Nebraska wins in 4, unfortunately. Badgers have won every first set of every match except Marquette this year, which they lost 24-26. They need to keep that streak alive and not let down in set 2 and 3 to have a chance. Including Nebraska's matches at Wisconsin and Purdue, they will have played six ranked teams in their first eight B1G matches. Of the remaining 12 conference matches, only two are against teams that are ranked in this week's poll...at Michigan State and home vs. Purdue. The schedule certainly is favorable for the Huskers at this point. One minor correction - Nebraska already played Rutgers on the road, so only one match left with them. I can't believe that any team would go unbeaten in the B1G. I think Cheese gets revenge for one that got away in Lincoln and beats Nebraska in four Wednesday night.
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Post by holidayhusker on Oct 10, 2017 16:13:44 GMT -5
Wisconsin is a dangerous team that can at any time drop an elite team. I hope Nebraska stays hungry and their focus is relaxed and sharp. IF we an stay the aggressor then our odds are good.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Oct 10, 2017 16:24:59 GMT -5
We need to stop this skid. Tomorrow night would be a great opportunity. That's a fact, Jack. Badgerettes need this very badly.
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Post by wonderwarthog79 on Oct 10, 2017 16:27:48 GMT -5
With a few days of preparation for only Wisconsin and Nebraska's current state of team chemistry I like their chances to play well on the road a lot! Madison is not an easy place to play for sure but have faith in the Big Red! This has not been proven to be true for years at the fieldhouse. It's really a bit of a fallacy in many cases. When people say that, it's usually because a team (any team) is already good, and might drop 3 matches a season total, on the road. If it's so tough, how did Stanford come back from 2 down? Minnesota had a 3 year streak going, so there "might" be some evidence there, but again, it's a good team with few losses. If you had a team that was say 10-0 at home and 5-5 on the road, that might mean something, but it also might mean they are a bad road team, not that they are great home team. Nebraska and Penn State are examples the other way. They lost a few at home in the last three years because they weren't as good. Two reasons for Stanford. First, they were peaking like everybody's business, and second, because hostile crowds didn't bother this team, maybe because most of them were frosh, and they didn't know better. Anyway, Badgerettes turn it around, 3-1.
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Post by badgerbreath on Oct 10, 2017 16:33:17 GMT -5
And Gillis is?
| Sets | K | E | TA | MSU | 5 | 10 | 6 | 44 | Michigan | 3 | 11 | 3 | 24 | Iowa | 3 | 8 | 1 | 17 | Nebraska | 5 | 13 | 8 | 40 | Minnesota | 5 | 12 | 10 | 52 | Michigan State | 4 | 16 | 7 | 40 | TOTAL | 25 | 70 - 2.80 kps | 35 | 217 - hitting .161 |
Fun fact: together, Duello and Gillis are hitting .138 with 1.88 kills per set in Big Ten play - combined. That's just not going to do it. I am the first person who wants to see more of Loberg. But, again, I don't see what Sheff is seeing. There has to be some reason he's staying with Gillis and Duello. I think you could see in one match where you sensed he thought more of Loberg than Duello as an offensive threat, but definitely still felt Duello was a better option defensively and serving. Gillis was supposedly reaching new heights of performance in spring and training camp prior to yet another ankle injury. Maybe he is waiting on her to get back to that level. I really don't know. She was especially frustratingly ineffective against Minnesota. Totally worthless in that match, in fact. I was shocked her hitting % when I saw the stats still managed to be in positive territory One of Gillis's MOs in the past has been slowness regaining form coming off an injury. I imagine the coaches and Gillis are frustrated with what they are seeing offensively from her, but they also know that she often comes good at some point. I can't speak to much on Loberg - when she has come on so far, there has not been that sense that she was obviously better. She had some nice matches in Kansas, and I was excited by what I saw. But those teams were a mess at the time. She really struggled against Lipscomb and TA&M coming into the season, which is why she got dropped. We breathed a sigh of relief when we saw Gillis in those matches. But Duello's lack of offense is a real problem.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Oct 10, 2017 16:41:55 GMT -5
And Gillis is?
| Sets | K | E | TA | MSU | 5 | 10 | 6 | 44 | Michigan | 3 | 11 | 3 | 24 | Iowa | 3 | 8 | 1 | 17 | Nebraska | 5 | 13 | 8 | 40 | Minnesota | 5 | 12 | 10 | 52 | Michigan State | 4 | 16 | 7 | 40 | TOTAL | 25 | 70 - 2.80 kps | 35 | 217 - hitting .161 |
Fun fact: together, Duello and Gillis are hitting .138 with 1.88 kills per set in Big Ten play - combined. That's just not going to do it. I am the first person who wants to see more of Loberg. But, again, I don't see what Sheff is seeing. There has to be some reason he's staying with Gillis and Duello. I think you could see in one match where you sensed he thought more of Loberg than Duello as an offensive threat, but definitely still felt Duello was a better option defensively and serving. Gillis was supposedly reaching new heights of performance in spring and training camp prior to yet another ankle injury. Maybe he is waiting on her to get back to that level. I really don't know. She was especially frustratingly ineffective against Minnesota. Totally worthless in that match, in fact. I was shocked her hitting % when I saw the stats still managed to be in positive territory I SOOOOOO wish he would bench Gillis, and say, "When you're ready to focus and play like a leader, you'll go in." Where's the urgency?! Isn't having Nebraska at home the time to produce!?!?
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Oct 10, 2017 16:51:08 GMT -5
This will be an interesting match for many reasons. One thing I'll look at is to see how Nebraska responds playing in Madison. The last time Nebraska played at Wisconsin was in 2014 correct? That would mean the only players who would have been at that game would be Hunter (redshirted that year), Boender (redshirted), Townsend,and Albrecht. Too bad the rest of them weren't there...that was a great whuppass match that Badger fans had been waiting...and waiting...and waiting for. I hope we don't have to wait another long time. How about just until tomorrow?
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Post by oldmanred on Oct 10, 2017 17:24:56 GMT -5
Big Red; I'll be rooting for you!!!
GO HUSKERS
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2017 17:41:25 GMT -5
I am the first person who wants to see more of Loberg. But, again, I don't see what Sheff is seeing. There has to be some reason he's staying with Gillis and Duello. I think you could see in one match where you sensed he thought more of Loberg than Duello as an offensive threat, but definitely still felt Duello was a better option defensively and serving. Gillis was supposedly reaching new heights of performance in spring and training camp prior to yet another ankle injury. Maybe he is waiting on her to get back to that level. I really don't know. She was especially frustratingly ineffective against Minnesota. Totally worthless in that match, in fact. I was shocked her hitting % when I saw the stats still managed to be in positive territory I can't speak to much on Loberg - when she has come on so far, there has not been that sense that she was obviously better. She had some nice matches in Kansas, and I was excited by what I saw. But those teams were a mess at the time. She really struggled against Lipscomb and TA&M coming into the season, which is why she got dropped. We breathed a sigh of relief when we saw Gillis in those matches. And yet, Loberg is still attacking at a higher clip than Gillis over the course of the season.
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Post by bball on Oct 10, 2017 17:57:00 GMT -5
....anything can happen in matches like these in the BIG10. Depends which type of team shows up! Wisconsin can beat anyone if they're clicking and so can Nebraska.... so......
I do know Cook and Hildebrand will have Wisconsin much more scouted this time around.
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Post by bkedane on Oct 10, 2017 17:58:13 GMT -5
I am the first person who wants to see more of Loberg. But, again, I don't see what Sheff is seeing. There has to be some reason he's staying with Gillis and Duello. I think you could see in one match where you sensed he thought more of Loberg than Duello as an offensive threat, but definitely still felt Duello was a better option defensively and serving. Gillis was supposedly reaching new heights of performance in spring and training camp prior to yet another ankle injury. Maybe he is waiting on her to get back to that level. I really don't know. She was especially frustratingly ineffective against Minnesota. Totally worthless in that match, in fact. I was shocked her hitting % when I saw the stats still managed to be in positive territory I SOOOOOO wish he would bench Gillis, and say, "When you're ready to focus and play like a leader, you'll go in." Where's the urgency?! Isn't having Nebraska at home the time to produce!?!? I doubt that the problem, if there is a problem, with her attacking is a "lack of focus" or her not "playing like a leader" (whatever that means). There is zero chance that Sheffield would say these things.
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Post by SportyBucky on Oct 10, 2017 19:43:50 GMT -5
You probably give up something offensively by moving Rettke. So, it's finding a balance. Is the gain of Rettke in place of Duello more than the loss of Shanahan for Rettke? Is Wisconsin a stronger team with Rettke at M2 and Duello at OPP vs. with Rettke at OPP and Shanahan at M2? Well, we certainly know they're not a top team in the former configuration. A team expecting to ride their freshman M2 to big-time wins in the Big Ten is going to be pretty frustrated, I think. You're really exaggerating, Shhhhhh. We lost to MN in 5, NE in 5 and MSU in 5 and 4. They are all top teams IN THE COUNTRY. Perspective is necessary. That being said, we are a MUCH stronger team with Rettke at RS. Period. I said it at the beginning of the season. I think it's still true. Duello is useless. We need a decent blocking middle and I think Shannahan and Hart are likely faster closing than Rettke and could be as good blocking given the height they're giving up. Rettke would be a beast on the right. It gives us OOS and she can swing backrow. Not sure I want that given teh drop in defense, but it's an option. Bigger question is how soon Loberg takes over OH.
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