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Post by HOLIDAY on Sept 11, 2022 21:38:47 GMT -5
I’m in no way saying you’re wrong - you’re there, I’m not - but I find that very surprising. I also find that surprising. The Nebraska fans I've seen on Reddit seem happy that he's gone, but that's a crowd that skews younger. I suppose it's possible that there are older Nebraska fans that are upset with the firing, though it's hard to imagine why. His results speak for themselves. I don’t think anyone that’s a true Nebraska fan likes the mob to win. The rabid mob won this round and Alberts listened to them. The season is pretty much ruined at this point already so why not let him finish out the year and then make a change.
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Post by Mocha on Sept 11, 2022 22:59:05 GMT -5
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 11, 2022 23:17:03 GMT -5
I also find that surprising. The Nebraska fans I've seen on Reddit seem happy that he's gone, but that's a crowd that skews younger. I suppose it's possible that there are older Nebraska fans that are upset with the firing, though it's hard to imagine why. His results speak for themselves. I don’t think anyone that’s a true Nebraska fan likes the mob to win. The rabid mob won this round and Alberts listened to them. The season is pretty much ruined at this point already so why not let him finish out the year and then make a change. “The mob?” Hmm. I’m starting to sense a very familiar theme…
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Post by hammer on Sept 12, 2022 12:57:47 GMT -5
I also find that surprising. The Nebraska fans I've seen on Reddit seem happy that he's gone, but that's a crowd that skews younger. I suppose it's possible that there are older Nebraska fans that are upset with the firing, though it's hard to imagine why. His results speak for themselves. I don’t think anyone that’s a true Nebraska fan likes the mob to win. The rabid mob won this round and Alberts listened to them. The season is pretty much ruined at this point already so why not let him finish out the year and then make a change. I don't follow Nebraska sports that closely and I don't know what goes down behind closed doors, but just maybe it's time for Alberts to go also.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 12, 2022 13:11:09 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone that’s a true Nebraska fan likes the mob to win. The rabid mob won this round and Alberts listened to them. The season is pretty much ruined at this point already so why not let him finish out the year and then make a change. I don't follow Nebraska sports that closely and I don't know what goes down behind closed doors, but just maybe it's time for Alberts to go also. Why? Alberts has only been the AD since July 2021. He's not the one who hired Riley or Frost (and to be fair, the Frost hire was lauded at the time). I don't even really think it was his fault that Frost was retained after last season's debacle, as I'm guessing that decision was made higher up. Alberts will get a chance to make his own hire, and then we'll see. If the next coach also flames out, then Alberts could find himself on the hot seat. But it's way too early for that. Edit: If you're referring to the decision to fire Frost now rather than wait a few weeks and save $7.5 million, I agree that the decision looks pretty shortsighted. That said, I'm guessing that a Nebraska booster wrote a check specifically to get rid of Frost now, so I don't think it really affects Nebraska's bottom line.
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Post by knapplc on Sept 12, 2022 13:17:06 GMT -5
I don't follow Nebraska sports that closely and I don't know what goes down behind closed doors, but just maybe it's time for Alberts to go also. Why? Alberts has only been the AD since July 2021. He's not the one who hired Riley or Frost (and to be fair, the Frost hire was lauded at the time). I don't even really think it was his fault that Frost was retained after last season's debacle, as I'm guessing that decision was made higher up. Alberts will get a chance to make his own hire, and then we'll see. If the next coach also flames out, then Alberts could find himself on the hot seat. But it's way too early for that. I think we saved something like $15/$20 million by restructuring Frost's deal last year and keeping him for one more year. The buyout would have dropped October 1st, but clearly this was heading into trainwreck territory. There are kids playing their final year of football. If we can somehow manage a bowl game for them, that would be great. That's one of the stated reasons for canning Frost now. There was zero chance he was getting this team to a bowl this year.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 12, 2022 13:23:25 GMT -5
Why? Alberts has only been the AD since July 2021. He's not the one who hired Riley or Frost (and to be fair, the Frost hire was lauded at the time). I don't even really think it was his fault that Frost was retained after last season's debacle, as I'm guessing that decision was made higher up. Alberts will get a chance to make his own hire, and then we'll see. If the next coach also flames out, then Alberts could find himself on the hot seat. But it's way too early for that. I think we saved something like $15/$20 million by restructuring Frost's deal last year and keeping him for one more year. The buyout would have dropped October 1st, but clearly this was heading into trainwreck territory. There are kids playing their final year of football. If we can somehow manage a bowl game for them, that would be great. That's one of the stated reasons for canning Frost now. There was zero chance he was getting this team to a bowl this year. Yeah, I suppose. If they can make a bowl, there might be a little optimism around the program for the first time in a while.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 12, 2022 14:18:21 GMT -5
Edit: If you're referring to the decision to fire Frost now rather than wait a few weeks and save $7.5 million, I agree that the decision looks pretty shortsighted. That said, I'm guessing that a Nebraska booster wrote a check specifically to get rid of Frost now, so I don't think it really affects Nebraska's bottom line. even if it was donors that forked over the additional money, it is a shame that that 7.5 million couldn't have been used for something actually useful don't get me started on how these coaches are grossly overpaid in general.
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Post by savannahbadger on Sept 12, 2022 16:38:02 GMT -5
I don’t think anyone that’s a true Nebraska fan likes the mob to win. The rabid mob won this round and Alberts listened to them. The season is pretty much ruined at this point already so why not let him finish out the year and then make a change. “The mob?” Hmm. I’m starting to sense a very familiar theme… Yeah, that mob got Frank Solich fired, and it’s been downhill ever since. The mob needs to realize that Nebraska might not ever get back to being a national power the way they used to be, and that no one coach is going to be able to get it done unless you give that coach 5+ years to turn EVERYTHING about the program around.
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Post by knapplc on Sept 12, 2022 16:45:01 GMT -5
“The mob?” Hmm. I’m starting to sense a very familiar theme… Yeah, that mob got Frank Solich fired, and it’s been downhill ever since. The mob needs to realize that Nebraska might not ever get back to being a national power the way they used to be, and that no one coach is going to be able to get it done unless you give that coach 5+ years to turn EVERYTHING about the program around. We understand that. No Nebraska fan expects a return to the 90s, and hasn't for some time. Frost couldn't string together three victories in a row. We haven't been to a bowl game in five years. We just want basic competence at this point.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 12, 2022 17:00:13 GMT -5
There are kids playing their final year of football. If we can somehow manage a bowl game for them, that would be great. That's one of the stated reasons for canning Frost now. There was zero chance he was getting this team to a bowl this year. How non-zero is the chance without Frost for three extra weeks? Is it $7.5M non-zero?
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Post by FreeBall on Sept 12, 2022 17:03:12 GMT -5
There are kids playing their final year of football. If we can somehow manage a bowl game for them, that would be great. That's one of the stated reasons for canning Frost now. There was zero chance he was getting this team to a bowl this year. How non-zero is the chance without Frost for three extra weeks? TBD at this point. Still unlikely, but probably slightly better odds than prior to Sunday.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 12, 2022 17:19:49 GMT -5
“The mob?” Hmm. I’m starting to sense a very familiar theme… Yeah, that mob got Frank Solich fired, and it’s been downhill ever since. The mob needs to realize that Nebraska might not ever get back to being a national power the way they used to be, and that no one coach is going to be able to get it done unless you give that coach 5+ years to turn EVERYTHING about the program around. I'm no Nebraska fan, but I don't know how anyone would want the Frost era to continue. This is his fifth year, and he just got outplayed by Georgia Southern and outcoached by Clay Helton. I watched the 4th quarter, and Georgia Southern winning was no fluke. Nebraska lacks physical talent (relative to the Big 10 in general), is undisciplined, and the playcalling is sketch. The last two have been constants during Frost's time in Lincoln. Canning Solich after a 9-3 season doesn't look so great now, but IIRC at the time Nebraska was only a few years removed from winning and/or competing for national championships, and 9-3 wasn't cutting it (I think he had a not-so-great season the year before, too?) for the Husker faithful. After that, though, the slide began in earnest. I mean, Bill Callahan? I agree that a new coach at Nebraska needs time. Unless Nebraska can make a Lincoln Riley-esque superstar hire where half the kids in the transfer portal end up in Lincoln, it's going to take time to bring in and develop talent. On the positive side, Bo Pelini is available!
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 12, 2022 17:21:46 GMT -5
How non-zero is the chance without Frost for three extra weeks? TBD at this point. Still unlikely, but probably slightly better odds than prior to Sunday. If anything, the locker room should be looser and better able to focus without all the drama of when/where/how Frost was going to get the axe.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 12, 2022 19:04:45 GMT -5
Yeah, that mob got Frank Solich fired, and it’s been downhill ever since. The mob needs to realize that Nebraska might not ever get back to being a national power the way they used to be, and that no one coach is going to be able to get it done unless you give that coach 5+ years to turn EVERYTHING about the program around. We understand that. No Nebraska fan expects a return to the 90s, and hasn't for some time. Frost couldn't string together three victories in a row. We haven't been to a bowl game in five years. We just want basic competence at this point. Nebraska football at this point reminds me of Long Beach women's volleyball. Or maybe it's the other way around. In both cases, the 1990s are never coming back, but it's not too much to ask for such storied programs to at the very least win more often than they lose.
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