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Post by nothingbutcorn on Mar 8, 2019 15:18:46 GMT -5
The fact is we do not know what Plummer can do until she is part of the NT and see how she performs. We have had opinions of a few other players that most thought would be great players and have turned out to just OK, nothing special or are no longer part of the NT. How many thought Larson would still be a part of the NT with a good chance to make her third Olympics?
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Post by Disc808 on Mar 8, 2019 15:54:19 GMT -5
The fact is we do not know what Plummer can do until she is part of the NT and see how she performs. We have had opinions of a few other players that most thought would be great players and have turned out to just OK, nothing special or are no longer part of the NT. How many thought Larson would still be a part of the NT with a good chance to make her third Olympics? Congrats on stating the obvious. This shouldn't be an excuse not to give Plummer a chance if that's what you're suggesting. While claiming Plummer is necessary to win the gold medal may be a stretch, claiming she deserves a chance is not. Here are some other facts about Plummer: probably the most decorated youth player USA has, medaled in both FIVB indoor and beach, won Best Spiker & Best Opposite awards at international competitions, First-Team All American, 2 Time NPOY (at a position she did not play before college), oh and she's a winner. I'm not saying she's a surefire Olympian, I'm just saying there's plenty of evidence to suggest that she should be given a chance to train and compete for roster spots. Does Karch even know Plummer has excelled as a right side hitter? Cause with who we have on the right side right now, I believe Plummer could make a difference for sure. She has a unique skill set and physicality that should not be wasted |
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Post by chicagosports on Mar 8, 2019 16:08:15 GMT -5
Cuttino exists and the debate is Lowe, Murphy, or Plummer? Nah.
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Post by yupyupyup on Mar 8, 2019 16:54:08 GMT -5
The fact is we do not know what Plummer can do until she is part of the NT and see how she performs. We have had opinions of a few other players that most thought would be great players and have turned out to just OK, nothing special or are no longer part of the NT. How many thought Larson would still be a part of the NT with a good chance to make her third Olympics? Congrats on stating the obvious. This shouldn't be an excuse not to give Plummer a chance if that's what you're suggesting. While claiming Plummer is necessary to win the gold medal may be a stretch, claiming she deserves a chance is not. Here are some other facts about Plummer: probably the most decorated youth player USA has, medaled in both FIVB indoor and beach, won Best Spiker & Best Opposite awards at international competitions, First-Team All American, 2 Time NPOY (at a position she did not play before college), oh and she's a winner. I'm not saying she's a surefire Olympian, I'm just saying there's plenty of evidence to suggest that she should be given a chance to train and compete for roster spots. Does Karch even know Plummer has excelled as a right side hitter? Cause with who we have on the right side right now, I believe Plummer could make a difference for sure. She has a unique skill set and physicality that should not be wasted Destinee also has an unique physicality and he did waste that. (Cuttino also, I agree, should be given a further look) The timing is not good for Plummer to even be considered for 2020 roster. Also, if she were placed on the A team roster, I wonder if that would disrupt the kumbaya atmosphere that a recent college graduate took the place of a veteran spot and there be feelings that she didn’t ‘earn’ it. A couple things go against Plummer being considered for a roster spot - she’s not a lefty for their fast system, she doesn’t have recent international experience, she hasn’t ‘earned’ a spot that pretty much all of the other players have and thus could disrupt the supposed kumbaya atmosphere that Karch preaches. |
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Post by Reach on Mar 8, 2019 17:04:49 GMT -5
Is Plummer better than Fawcett with many years of professional experience on the rightsize? Probably not. Still should be given a shot. Plummer is probably already a better defender than Lowe or Murphy and likely a better blocker. She probably lags behind in the hitting department at the current tempo.
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Post by stanfordvb on Mar 8, 2019 17:39:46 GMT -5
Is Plummer better than Fawcett with many years of professional experience on the rightsize? Probably not. Still should be given a shot. Plummer is probably already a better defender than Lowe or Murphy and likely a better blocker. She probably lags behind in the hitting department at the current tempo. Hope fully she’s better st right back defense than she is at middle back. Now I’m a huge Stanford fan so I’m not trashing Plummer because I have hard feeling or anything. But she is not very mobile on defense at all and I would be worried about her playing tip defense in right back when the left sides are swinging. Plummer RARELY makes diving saves or digs really hard driven balls. She would worry me in international play as a defender |
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Post by yupyupyup on Mar 8, 2019 17:59:43 GMT -5
Is Plummer better than Fawcett with many years of professional experience on the rightsize? Probably not. Still should be given a shot. Plummer is probably already a better defender than Lowe or Murphy and likely a better blocker. She probably lags behind in the hitting department at the current tempo. Hope fully she’s better st right back defense than she is at middle back. Now I’m a huge Stanford fan so I’m not trashing Plummer because I have hard feeling or anything. But she is not very mobile on defense at all and I would be worried about her playing tip defense in right back when the left sides are swinging. Plummer RARELY makes diving saves or digs really hard driven balls. She would worry me in international play as a defender Does Karsta or Egonu worry you in right back defense? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:42:37 GMT -5
Is Plummer better than Fawcett with many years of professional experience on the rightsize? Stick to your day job, babe. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 19:44:11 GMT -5
Hope fully she’s better st right back defense than she is at middle back. Now I’m a huge Stanford fan so I’m not trashing Plummer because I have hard feeling or anything. But she is not very mobile on defense at all and I would be worried about her playing tip defense in right back when the left sides are swinging. Plummer RARELY makes diving saves or digs really hard driven balls. She would worry me in international play as a defender Does Karsta or Egonu worry you in right back defense? Anyone worried about their right back defender’s ability to “dive” needs to enroll in a clinic or workshop as soon as possible. |
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Post by Reach on Mar 8, 2019 21:00:50 GMT -5
Is Plummer better than Fawcett with many years of professional experience on the rightsize? Stick to your day job, babe. I will. Pays well. Did you have something of value to add or you busy still coaching 12 year olds in Paducah? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 23:15:19 GMT -5
For the record... I’m not convinced that given the opportunities Plummer would play herself onto the A roster before 2020. Conservatism seems like weird way to win gold medals. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 23:16:52 GMT -5
The fact is we do not know what Plummer can do until she is part of the NT and see how she performs. This idea operates from a false premise. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Mar 9, 2019 23:57:22 GMT -5
Hope fully she’s better st right back defense than she is at middle back. Now I’m a huge Stanford fan so I’m not trashing Plummer because I have hard feeling or anything. But she is not very mobile on defense at all and I would be worried about her playing tip defense in right back when the left sides are swinging. Plummer RARELY makes diving saves or digs really hard driven balls. She would worry me in international play as a defender Does Karsta or Egonu worry you in right back defense? They are definitely not strong defenders, but I wouldn’t say Plummer could play better right back defense than them .... IN MY OPNINION IM SORRY IF ANY OF YOU TAKE THIS TO SOUL AS 90% OF EVERYONE ON HERE DOES. |
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Post by Hawk Attack on Mar 10, 2019 0:07:00 GMT -5
Does Karsta or Egonu worry you in right back defense? To be fair... Egonu would more than likely be cut from the USA squad for “being disruptive to team cohesion”. |
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Post by volleyguy on Mar 10, 2019 6:39:05 GMT -5
Does Karsta or Egonu worry you in right back defense? They are definitely not strong defenders, but I wouldn’t say Plummer could play better right back defense than them .... IN MY OPNINION IM SORRY IF ANY OF YOU TAKE THIS TO SOUL AS 90% OF EVERYONE ON HERE DOES. The only question-as your comments allude to--is how many points their defense costs vs how many points their offense produces. In that respect, Egonu almost always ends up on the positive side. Plummer might also, although that's not proven yet, and Lowe probably does some of the times. |
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