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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 18:22:23 GMT -5
Probably safe to assume Langlois will finally get on the court this VNL, although I expect it to be just one match. Hope to see Jaeschke and DeFalco playing two matches this week along with Ma’a and Jendryk.
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 26, 2019 18:29:00 GMT -5
Probably safe to assume Langlois will finally get on the court this VNL, although I expect it to be just one match. Hope to see Jaeschke and DeFalco playing two matches this week along with Ma’a and Jendryk. That would be ideal. If you're bringing with players that will probably be on the final roster...play them. But we'll still probably see two matches of Muagututia.  |
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 26, 2019 18:50:27 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. If Langlois were better he’d be playing, and passing is likely keeping Muagututia on the court more than Langlois and other options 🤷♂️
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Post by hanson on Jun 26, 2019 18:54:22 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. If Langlois were better he’d be playing, and passing is likely keeping Muagututia on the court more than Langlois and other options 🤷♂️ Muagututia is way better than Langlois. He should have been to worlds last year instead of Langlois. It’s just being better than Langlois doesn’t mean anything. I think he is an insurance selection in case Jaeschke isn’t recovering well |
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 26, 2019 19:44:49 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. If Langlois were better he’d be playing, and passing is likely keeping Muagututia on the court more than Langlois and other options 🤷♂️ I agree, he’s been solid. I have a mini fit every time I see him out there instead of the other OHs, but...when you should be careful with Sander, Russell is still recovering from the season, and they are being careful with Jaeschke, it’s made sense. But everybody will be back soon. IMO they should put DeFalco and Jaeschke together this wknd for a few matches along with Jendryk and Patch with Ma’a setting. Don’t fly four of your top 14 to Bulgaria for a week to play one 90 minute match against Bulgaria. |
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 26, 2019 19:55:10 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. If Langlois were better he’d be playing, and passing is likely keeping Muagututia on the court more than Langlois and other options 🤷♂️ I agree, he’s been solid. I have a mini fit every time I see him out there instead of the other OHs, but...when you should be careful with Sander, Russell is still recovering from the season, and they are being careful with Jaeschke, it’s made sense. But everybody will be back soon. IMO they should put DeFalco and Jaeschke together this wknd for a few matches along with Jendryk and Patch with Ma’a setting. Don’t fly four of your top 14 to Bulgaria for a week to play one 90 minute match against Bulgaria. Players on the roster that I would like to see play 2/3 of the matches: Ma’a, DeFalco, Jaeschke, Averill, Jendryk, Dagostino, Patch/Russell I don’t have a preference lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 21:04:58 GMT -5
^ this 100% - too bad Ensing isn’t there.
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 26, 2019 21:15:30 GMT -5
Ensing would be great...but he’s not there!!
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Post by hanson on Jun 26, 2019 21:34:48 GMT -5
I legit think VNL will be gone after three years when that Chinese sponsor (that water company listed as Fivbs bigggest sponsor) stops buying ticket for their men’s team (a core team in last place). It is just a ridiculous tournament and it appears to be treated as such this year. The travel is horrendous and the schedule is way too much coming straight off pro seasons. No wonder players are complaining and sitting out. How does it work next year in an Olympic year? Is it taking place? Same schedule? Olympics are early next year Next year there will be half of the teams that cant even go to Olympics ( Germany, Bulgaria, China, Slovenia if they win the challenger cup, one of France, Serbia and Italy) and those who do qualify for Olympics playing their B teams) in the VNL |
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 26, 2019 21:48:18 GMT -5
Ensing would be great...but he’s not there!! Lol my bad I meant Russell! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 22:31:08 GMT -5
It is just a ridiculous tournament and it appears to be treated as such this year. The travel is horrendous and the schedule is way too much coming straight off pro seasons. No wonder players are complaining and sitting out. How does it work next year in an Olympic year? Is it taking place? Same schedule? Olympics are early next year Next year there will be half of the teams that cant even go to Olympics ( Germany, Bulgaria, China, Slovenia if they win the challenger cup, one of France, Serbia and Italy) and those who do qualify for Olympics playing their B teams) in the VNL I think you are fooling yourself if you think that every team that qualifies for the Olympics WON’T be solidifying their strongest possible lineups leading to the finals in the ONLY tournament preceding the OG. The VNL goes until mid July and the Olympics start less than two weeks later. What better training can you get? Not even scrimmages in their respective gyms would be enough preparation. C’mon now..... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 22:42:17 GMT -5
Week 5 S(2): Micah Ma’a, Josh Tuaniga OPP(2): Ben Patch, Kyle Russell OH(4): Thomas Jaeschke, TJ DeFalco, Garrett Muagututia, Jake Langlois MB(4): Taylor Averill, Jeff Jendryk, Price Jarman, George Huhmann L(2): Dustin Watten, Kyle Dagostino Speraw don’t even go. Nate Neilson is gonna head coach As I figured, it was a shortage of people on the roster issue that doesn't allow Jaeschke (only Olympian that is there...oof), DeFalco and Jendryk to be back in California preparing for the VNL Finals with the rest of the team (as I assume all will be on that roster) instead of back in Europe playing essentially three meaningless games. Same with Patch...not sure why he is there instead of Ensing. But glad we had four Liberos on the roster!!! Ben Patch is truly an enigma. I see why he baffles everyone on here. I would like to pose a thought. Watching Ma’a set Patch vs Italy during week 2 was sublime. Patch was very dominant that game on offense because the sets from Ma’a were high enough. When you have a guy with a vertical like Patch who can hit over most blocks you set him a higher ball. I’m not saying Christenson is bad but I do think he doesn’t put up a high enough ball. Granted I know it’s the job of the hitter to play smart with what is given to you by the setter.....but I think, based on what I have watched these past weeks, Patch has a lot of untapped potential. Yes his defense and serve are a liability but he should continue to develop it. That or Speraw has already chosen Ensing to invest in as Anderson’s back up. Ensing only needs help developing his offense at an elite level....his serving and defense are better IMO. Thoughts? |
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Post by Disc808 on Jun 26, 2019 23:05:57 GMT -5
As I figured, it was a shortage of people on the roster issue that doesn't allow Jaeschke (only Olympian that is there...oof), DeFalco and Jendryk to be back in California preparing for the VNL Finals with the rest of the team (as I assume all will be on that roster) instead of back in Europe playing essentially three meaningless games. Same with Patch...not sure why he is there instead of Ensing. But glad we had four Liberos on the roster!!! Ben Patch is truly an enigma. I see why he baffles everyone on here. I would like to pose a thought. Watching Ma’a set Patch vs Italy during week 2 was sublime. Patch was very dominant that game on offense because the sets from Ma’a were high enough. When you have a guy with a vertical like Patch who can hit over most blocks you set him a higher ball. I’m not saying Christenson is bad but I do think he doesn’t put up a high enough ball. Granted I know it’s the job of the hitter to play smart with what is given to you by the setter.....but I think, based on what I have watched these past weeks, Patch has a lot of untapped potential. Yes his defense and serve are a liability but he should continue to develop it. That or Speraw has already chosen Ensing to invest in as Anderson’s back up. Ensing only needs help developing his offense at an elite level....his serving and defense are better IMO. Thoughts? It's definitely a tough debate. Like you said when Patch is on, he's on. Ensing is better on defense, doesn't make strings of errors, and doesn't have a lollipop serve (lol). I guess the question is: what is Speraw's priority for the #2 Opp spot. Barring any injury, Anderson is our #1 on the right side. Now does Speraw NEED the explosive offense in that 2nd Opp spot at the potential cost of defense, errors, and serves? We have great OHs and middles who can score already. I do think that Ensing needs to work on terminating and not being so tentative OOS, and perhaps Russell is a dark horse option who has the guns and can be a solid backup ala Murphy. Who knows at this point. I will say that Patch has *seemingly* improved. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 23:18:24 GMT -5
Ben Patch is truly an enigma. I see why he baffles everyone on here. I would like to pose a thought. Watching Ma’a set Patch vs Italy during week 2 was sublime. Patch was very dominant that game on offense because the sets from Ma’a were high enough. When you have a guy with a vertical like Patch who can hit over most blocks you set him a higher ball. I’m not saying Christenson is bad but I do think he doesn’t put up a high enough ball. Granted I know it’s the job of the hitter to play smart with what is given to you by the setter.....but I think, based on what I have watched these past weeks, Patch has a lot of untapped potential. Yes his defense and serve are a liability but he should continue to develop it. That or Speraw has already chosen Ensing to invest in as Anderson’s back up. Ensing only needs help developing his offense at an elite level....his serving and defense are better IMO. Thoughts? It's definitely a tough debate. Like you said when Patch is on, he's on. Ensing is better on defense, doesn't make strings of errors, and doesn't have a lollipop serve (lol). I guess the question is: what is Speraw's priority for the #2 Opp spot. Barring any injury, Anderson is our #1 on the right side. Now does Speraw NEED the explosive offense in that 2nd Opp spot at the potential cost of defense, errors, and serves? We have great OHs and middles who can score already. I do think that Ensing needs to work on terminating and not being so tentative OOS, and perhaps Russell is a dark horse option who has the guns and can be a solid backup ala Murphy. Who knows at this point. I will say that Patch has *seemingly* improved. Will he be with Berlin again this season? A season in Italy would do him some good! |
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Post by netsetter on Jun 27, 2019 1:13:11 GMT -5
He will be in Berlin. I think it will be good for him to be in Italy. Though after he essentially failed there a year ago and didn't start for a good part of this past year, it might take him a full season of starting before he gets another opportunity.
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