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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 27, 2019 6:01:30 GMT -5
I still don’t know if I believe that Ensing is #2 OPP behind Anderson...but he’s not the one over in Bulgaria right now playing with this lineup, so maybe!
To my completely untrained eye, I do think Patch has improved since last summer, but he’s still so inconsistent. Drives me crazy. He’s the number one high risk/high reward player on the team. But do you want someone like that in Tokyo next summer??? Or someone that isn’t going to have the wow factor but is steady and can be counted on in spots (agree with the above...like Murphy). Especially behind Anderson who has the wow factor already.
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Post by akbar on Jun 27, 2019 8:36:26 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. 🤷♂️ To be fair? Muagututia has played well and demonstrated leadership, consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else, not named Sanders/Jaeschke so far during the VNL. Im very glad that the staff included him in the mix and he has responded very well to the workload. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 8:52:28 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. 🤷♂️ To be fair? Muagututia has played well and demonstrated leadership, consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else, not named Sanders/Jaeschke so far during the VNL. Im very glad that the staff included him in the mix and he has responded very well to the workload. Jaeschke has played one match. I’m not sure why you’re including him with Sander? |
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Post by akbar on Jun 27, 2019 9:07:39 GMT -5
To be fair? Muagututia has played well and demonstrated leadership, consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else, not named Sanders/Jaeschke so far during the VNL. Im very glad that the staff included him in the mix and he has responded very well to the workload. Jaeschke has played one match. I’m not sure why you’re including him with Sander? We all know Russell, Jaeschke and Sander are our top 3 guys and we know their body of work well from previous years. Sander and Russell are elite OHs. With only 1 match under his belt, it was clear Jaeschke retains those tangibles/intangibles of consistency, leadership and chemistry.( It was also a recognition to Jaeschke that he is back and ready to go and we should be relieved.) IMO I have seen elements of these too in Muagututita, which is crucial for that 4th OH spot. Ill leave it at that for now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2019 9:38:07 GMT -5
Jaeschke has played one match. I’m not sure why you’re including him with Sander? We all know Russell, Jaeschke and Sander are our top 3 guys and we know their body of work well from previous years. Sander and Russell are elite OHs. With only 1 match under his belt, it was clear Jaeschke retains those tangibles/intangibles of consistency, leadership and chemistry.( It was also a recognition to Jaeschke that he is back and ready to go and we should be relieved.) IMO I have seen elements of these too in Muagututita, which is crucial for that 4th OH spot. Ill leave it at that for now. I was confused by the "consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else not named Sander/Jaeschke so far during the VNL" as it seems like you're implying with that message, that like Sander, Jaeschke had played with various lineups and setters this VNL, which he has not. I don't think Muagututia is the 4th OH unless Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, or DeFalco are injured and/or unavailable. He is currently behind DeFalco in scoring albeit by a mere 0.02 ppg, but in my opinion, it's in part to a very poor week 2 performance by DeFalco, and one incredibly strong set by Muagututia against Canada in which he dipped hard the following three sets. But, to each their own. Adding: DeFalco has been aced on 4.07% of his receptions, while Muagututia has been aced on 4.42% of his receptions. He has a better percentage of "excellent" receptions though and he's averaging 1.26 dpg compared to DeFalco's 1.17. |
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Post by vballfan17 on Jun 27, 2019 11:28:26 GMT -5
Will the USA make the Final 6? I see they are currently in 7th place, so curious if sending a less experienced roster to Bulgaria could end up leading to the USA being left out of the VNL Final.
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Post by akbar on Jun 27, 2019 11:33:33 GMT -5
Will the USA make the Final 6? I see they are currently in 7th place, so curious if sending a less experienced roster to Bulgaria could end up leading to the USA being left out of the VNL Final. They are automatically in the next 2 years as hosts. so yes....even going 0-3 this weeekend. |
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Post by itsallrelative on Jun 27, 2019 11:49:42 GMT -5
To be fair, Muagututia is not as bad as people make him out to be. He’s passing solidly and is holding his own offensively. 🤷♂️ To be fair? Muagututia has played well and demonstrated leadership, consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else, not named Sanders/Jaeschke so far during the VNL. Im very glad that the staff included him in the mix and he has responded very well to the workload. He's kinda in that "Riley Salmon" mode...a pass first OH that lets us use the middles more...adequate offensively, contributes some, but not flashy.... |
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Post by polkhighvolley on Jun 27, 2019 13:35:32 GMT -5
We all know Russell, Jaeschke and Sander are our top 3 guys and we know their body of work well from previous years. Sander and Russell are elite OHs. With only 1 match under his belt, it was clear Jaeschke retains those tangibles/intangibles of consistency, leadership and chemistry.( It was also a recognition to Jaeschke that he is back and ready to go and we should be relieved.) IMO I have seen elements of these too in Muagututita, which is crucial for that 4th OH spot. Ill leave it at that for now. I was confused by the "consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else not named Sander/Jaeschke so far during the VNL" as it seems like you're implying with that message, that like Sander, Jaeschke had played with various lineups and setters this VNL, which he has not. I don't think Muagututia is the 4th OH unless Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, or DeFalco are injured and/or unavailable. He is currently behind DeFalco in scoring albeit by a mere 0.02 ppg, but in my opinion, it's in part to a very poor week 2 performance by DeFalco, and one incredibly strong set by Muagututia against Canada in which he dipped hard the following three sets. But, to each their own. Adding: DeFalco has been aced on 4.07% of his receptions, while Muagututia has been aced on 4.42% of his receptions. He has a better percentage of "excellent" receptions though and he's averaging 1.26 dpg compared to DeFalco's 1.17. I honestly think skill wise DeFalco even just out of college is neck and neck with Sander and Russel. In fact, skill wise he's superior, Sander and Russel are more physically gifted, which obviously counts for a lot. Volleyball IQ wise, he's the smartest OH on the roster and maybe best digger. He's the closest thing I've seen to Karch in a long time. I don't think that will qualify him for a starting slot in Tokyo based on Speraw's preference with vets, but I would be very comfortable with him (or Jaeschke assuming he's 100%) playing with the 1s against the top guys in the world, especially after playing in Italy and getting used to the Mikasa ball for a whole season. (let the bullets fly now) |
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 27, 2019 16:35:46 GMT -5
We all know Russell, Jaeschke and Sander are our top 3 guys and we know their body of work well from previous years. Sander and Russell are elite OHs. With only 1 match under his belt, it was clear Jaeschke retains those tangibles/intangibles of consistency, leadership and chemistry.( It was also a recognition to Jaeschke that he is back and ready to go and we should be relieved.) IMO I have seen elements of these too in Muagututita, which is crucial for that 4th OH spot. Ill leave it at that for now. I was confused by the "consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else not named Sander/Jaeschke so far during the VNL" as it seems like you're implying with that message, that like Sander, Jaeschke had played with various lineups and setters this VNL, which he has not. I don't think Muagututia is the 4th OH unless Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, or DeFalco are injured and/or unavailable. He is currently behind DeFalco in scoring albeit by a mere 0.02 ppg, but in my opinion, it's in part to a very poor week 2 performance by DeFalco, and one incredibly strong set by Muagututia against Canada in which he dipped hard the following three sets. But, to each their own. Adding: DeFalco has been aced on 4.07% of his receptions, while Muagututia has been aced on 4.42% of his receptions. He has a better percentage of "excellent" receptions though and he's averaging 1.26 dpg compared to DeFalco's 1.17. Very interesting. The numbers are closer than I thought/would expect, but as you laid out there may be reasons for that. I still expect TJ to be that fourth OH in Tokyo. Or would they ever dare go with three and take Sander, Russell, Jaeschke only?? But good to see that if something did happen to one of the OHs, Muagututia is showing more than what he has in the past and there is maybe another option there. |
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Post by planetasia01 on Jun 27, 2019 17:12:51 GMT -5
I love that the discussion for team USA is essentially nit-picking the differences at OH, which proves that they're super deep and metal will hone metal. Too bad there isn't really this type of discussion (and depth) at the Libero and Setter positions (yet)...
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 27, 2019 17:34:46 GMT -5
I love that the discussion for team USA is essentially nit-picking the differences at OH, which proves that they're super deep and metal will hone metal. Too bad there isn't really this type of discussion (and depth) at the Libero and Setter positions (yet)... So true!!! They are deep at the top of the roster. And the average age of the four OHs is probably 25/26. Young and talented. I’m more optimistic about setter than Libero. |
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Post by akbar on Jun 27, 2019 17:35:30 GMT -5
I was confused by the "consistency and far more chemistry with the various lineups and setters than anyone else not named Sander/Jaeschke so far during the VNL" as it seems like you're implying with that message, that like Sander, Jaeschke had played with various lineups and setters this VNL, which he has not. I don't think Muagututia is the 4th OH unless Sander, Russell, Jaeschke, or DeFalco are injured and/or unavailable. He is currently behind DeFalco in scoring albeit by a mere 0.02 ppg, but in my opinion, it's in part to a very poor week 2 performance by DeFalco, and one incredibly strong set by Muagututia against Canada in which he dipped hard the following three sets. But, to each their own. Adding: DeFalco has been aced on 4.07% of his receptions, while Muagututia has been aced on 4.42% of his receptions. He has a better percentage of "excellent" receptions though and he's averaging 1.26 dpg compared to DeFalco's 1.17. I still expect TJ to be that fourth OH in Tokyo. Not sold in the least bit. |
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Post by akbar on Jun 27, 2019 17:38:12 GMT -5
I love that the discussion for team USA is essentially nit-picking the differences at OH, which proves that they're super deep and metal will hone metal. Too bad there isn't really this type of discussion (and depth) at the Libero and Setter positions (yet)... So true!!! They are deep at the top of the roster. And the average age of the four OHs is probably 25/26. Young and talented. I’m more optimistic about setter than Libero. You mean for 2nd setter? The staff is auditioning. Nobody is even close to Erik Shoji. |
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Post by vbmidwest11 on Jun 27, 2019 17:40:37 GMT -5
I still expect TJ to be that fourth OH in Tokyo. Not sold in the least bit. I will say...I’m intrigued by your comments and reading between the lines. And am now wondering what Speraw thinks of young Mr. De Falco. Maybe being in the Italian league will do him some good. |
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