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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 4, 2019 14:07:32 GMT -5
Why does everyone forget that Foecke was a middle for nearly all of her prep career and for youth/junior USAV teams Didn't she play Pin in some form though before Nebraska, and wasn't she recruited to play pin? Again, she developed under nebraska and cook, but to say its remarkable is a stretch IMO |
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Post by Wolfgang on Jun 4, 2019 14:08:52 GMT -5
Why does everyone forget that Foecke was a middle for nearly all of her prep career and for youth/junior USAV teams I would have no reason to know this, much less forget. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 15:55:27 GMT -5
Why does everyone forget that Foecke was a middle for nearly all of her prep career and for youth/junior USAV teams Didn't she play Pin in some form though before Nebraska, and wasn't she recruited to play pin? Again, she developed under nebraska and cook, but to say its remarkable is a stretch IMO Seems silly to focus on the semantics, but okay. And I said “nearly all of her prep career” in my post. She left Iowa Rockets to play for Fusion as a senior. Five months of training on the left and became the MOP of the NCAA Volleyball Division I Women’s National Championship six months later. That’s remarkable regardless of your opinion (no offense). But anyway, your argument of “since Cook was her coach, any skill development can’t be considered remarkable because he’s Cook,” is very... flawed. |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Jun 4, 2019 16:01:16 GMT -5
Didn't she play Pin in some form though before Nebraska, and wasn't she recruited to play pin? Again, she developed under nebraska and cook, but to say its remarkable is a stretch IMO Seems silly to focus on the semantics, but okay. And I said “nearly all of her prep career” in my post. She left Iowa Rockets to play for Fusion as a senior. Five months of training on the left and became the MOP of the NCAA Volleyball Division I Women’s National Championship six months later. That’s remarkable regardless of your opinion (no offense). But anyway, your argument of “since Cook was her coach, any skill development can’t be considered remarkable because he’s Cook,” is very... flawed. That’s not what I meant by my post. I simply stated cook is fantastic and developing 6 rotation players. Wording was bad on my part so I can see where that misunderstanding came from. My main point is that while she developed Under cook, I wouldnt Call in remarkable because she came in as an amazing volleyball player already. But truth be told I only knew her from her freshman year to senior year by her play and very little about her prep career. Just based on everything I’ve read about it, seen in videos online etc, I always thought she was just a tremendous player before she even got to Nebraska |
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Post by stanfordvb on Jun 4, 2019 18:13:41 GMT -5
Why does everyone forget that Foecke was a middle for nearly all of her prep career and for youth/junior USAV teams Didn't she play Pin in some form though before Nebraska, and wasn't she recruited to play pin? Again, she developed under nebraska and cook, but to say its remarkable is a stretch IMO She was recruited as a pin and hit primarily left on her high school team. But UA match she played middle and usa |
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Post by hoosierman on Jun 4, 2019 18:14:49 GMT -5
So. Checking in with Indiana... Emily Fitzner comes to the program as talented setter, so what does Aird do? Bench his three year starter Brisack, run a 6-2, or allow senior Brisack to run the team for her senior season? These are reasons I would've hated to be a coach. I get it - it comes with the job, but no thanks. Still super sucks that Lexi Johnson left. Kendall Beerman, per her twitter, is returning for her final season of eligibility, but has earned her undergrad. Congrats to her! There is still a good core of Lofton, Huybers, Edwards (playing with the B10 team in Japan this summer), and Lebo returning, so hopefully Aird can make some magic happen. Of course I will continue to be the lone fan here (14 years and running), and report from time to time when IU knocks off someone they're not supposed to, but it's a rough life for fans of teams <9th in the B1G. Aird is bringing in some transfers: Peyton Yelich (from Virginia Tech) Megan Sloan (from Louisville) Kari Zumach (from Creighton - this was reported in the transfers thread, but not on IU's site yet) Are these players "IU" types of players, as in, comparable to what we have had, or ARE THEY THE NEXT LAUREN CARLINI? Jk. But seriously, I wonder how IU will fare in the B10 this year. The RS is definitely a place where IU needs help, so hopefully Aird can put together a competitive team this year. |
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Post by holidayhusker on Jun 4, 2019 20:35:58 GMT -5
Who on earth underrated Foecke hahahha I’m pretty sure everyone thinks she is incredible, the announcers certainly don’t shy away from it Clearly you didn't spend much time in the thread discussing NPOY candidates. Seemed there were Huskers fans deeply sensitive to the idea that someone other than Foecke might win NPOY and that not winning it was a sign of deep disrespect to Foecke and Nebraska. Or some nonsense. I honestly think I saw a Nebraska fan trying to play the "No Respect" card about the entire program.  To be fair, that may have just been that holidayhusker character who stirred things up so much that it seemed like it was 3 or 4 of them. Foecke proved to much better than I thought she was through her first 2 years at Nebraska. And I really like what she showed at the VNL and hope that she sticks with volleyball long-term and works her way up the ladder with the national team. We were upset that she wasn’t even in the conversation which in retrospect you admit was a little stupid. The Plummer lovefest I call Barboozled. Let the players earn their own accolades, They don’t need cheerleaders from the sidelines promoting them. Now you can respond with your usual Ummm comments and free can be giddy with excitement. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 21:43:30 GMT -5
Seems silly to focus on the semantics, but okay. And I said “nearly all of her prep career” in my post. She left Iowa Rockets to play for Fusion as a senior. Five months of training on the left and became the MOP of the NCAA Volleyball Division I Women’s National Championship six months later. That’s remarkable regardless of your opinion (no offense). But anyway, your argument of “since Cook was her coach, any skill development can’t be considered remarkable because he’s Cook,” is very... flawed. My main point is that while she developed Under cook, I wouldnt Call in remarkable because she came in as an amazing volleyball player already. But truth be told I only knew her from her freshman year to senior year by her play and very little about her prep career. Just based on everything I’ve read about it, seen in videos online etc, I always thought she was just a tremendous player before she even got to Nebraska She was 6'3" and had a cannon. That's why she was the #2 recruit: potential. She wasn't "an amazing volleyball player already." She was strong and hit the ball harder than anyone else. She just started playing back row as a high school senior, and didn't get the chance to do that in college until her junior year. Her development from a three-rotation one-trick-pony into a six-rotation elite well-rounded volleyball player was remarkable. Cook outdid himself with Mikaela Foecke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 22:53:42 GMT -5
Didn't she play Pin in some form though before Nebraska, and wasn't she recruited to play pin? Again, she developed under nebraska and cook, but to say its remarkable is a stretch IMO She was recruited as a pin and hit primarily left on her high school team. But UA match she played middle and usa She played both for her high school team, but more middle than left. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2019 22:56:31 GMT -5
She was recruited as a pin and hit primarily left on her high school team. But UA match she played middle and usa She played both for her high school team, but more middle than left. You see lots of top 30 kids playing OH for their high school teams, regardless of position, especially if they're from a small town. That doesn't mean she got any real training. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 11:02:09 GMT -5
Clearly you didn't spend much time in the thread discussing NPOY candidates. Seemed there were Huskers fans deeply sensitive to the idea that someone other than Foecke might win NPOY and that not winning it was a sign of deep disrespect to Foecke and Nebraska. Or some nonsense. I honestly think I saw a Nebraska fan trying to play the "No Respect" card about the entire program. To be fair, that may have just been that holidayhusker character who stirred things up so much that it seemed like it was 3 or 4 of them. Foecke proved to much better than I thought she was through her first 2 years at Nebraska. And I really like what she showed at the VNL and hope that she sticks with volleyball long-term and works her way up the ladder with the national team. We were upset that she wasn’t even in the conversation which in retrospect you admit was a little stupid. The Plummer lovefest I call Barboozled. Let the players earn their own accolades, They don’t need cheerleaders from the sidelines promoting them. Now you can respond with your usual Ummm comments and free can be giddy with excitement. Before the tournament, I may have put her at maybe top-5. I cannot clearly recall. I'd have had Plummer and RJP ahead of her, and probably SSS and Poulter. If I had a vote, I wouldn't put much player's team success in the tournament the NPOY discussion, unless the tournament reveals a few things I hadn't realized/seen. In the tournament, I thought RJP was exposed by Stanford, or at least dominated, and would not have been able to justify calling her NPOY. I think I still would have kept SSS and Poulter ahead of Foecke, though. As I said, she was/is a much, much better player than I expected her to be by the end of her career. But, I still wouldn't have voted her NPOY. If you also had me placing a futures bet on pro/international potential, I'd probably also bet heaviest on Plummer, Poulter and Rettke. For whatever that's worth. Bottom line, if thinking she may be 4th or 5th in line for NPOY is, in your eyes, disrespecting or undervaluing her, then I'm OK with that. |
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Jun 5, 2019 12:25:23 GMT -5
I think where Foecke clearing opened some eyes was she stepped up her play in the Final Four, and took it up another notch in the NC match.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2019 12:41:13 GMT -5
I think where Foecke clearing opened some eyes was she stepped up her play in the Final Four, and took it up another notch in the NC match. True. But, she also had done that twice previously  And, my apologies for helping this get off track. Big Ten 2019 should not really have a long conversation about someone who won't be playing in 2019. |
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Post by holidayhusker on Jun 5, 2019 14:46:04 GMT -5
We were upset that she wasn’t even in the conversation which in retrospect you admit was a little stupid. The Plummer lovefest I call Barboozled. Let the players earn their own accolades, They don’t need cheerleaders from the sidelines promoting them. Now you can respond with your usual Ummm comments and free can be giddy with excitement. Before the tournament, I may have put her at maybe top-5. I cannot clearly recall. I'd have had Plummer and RJP ahead of her, and probably SSS and Poulter. If I had a vote, I wouldn't put much player's team success in the tournament the NPOY discussion, unless the tournament reveals a few things I hadn't realized/seen. In the tournament, I thought RJP was by Stanford and would not have been able to justify calling her NPOY. I think I still would have kept SSS and Poulter ahead of Foecke, though. As I said, she was/is a much, much better player than I expected her to be by the end of her career. But, I still wouldn't have voted her NPOY. If you also had me placing a futures bet on pro/international potential, I'd probably also bet heaviest on Plummer, Poulter and Rettke. For whatever that's worth. Bottom line, if thinking she may be 4th or 5th in line for NPOY is, in your eyes, disrespecting or undervaluing her, then I'm OK with that. Fair enough..I think she did deserve to be in the conversation with Plummer and frankly Foecke outplayed the NPOY badly in the NC match which should silence many of her critics. Foecke has played underrated her entire career. Sometimes its great to be the underdog. |
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Post by donut on Jun 5, 2019 14:56:02 GMT -5
I'm confused, is Foecke playing in the Big 10 in 2019?
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To be fair, that may have just been that holidayhusker character who stirred things up so much that it seemed like it was 3 or 4 of them. 
