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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 13:05:49 GMT -5
Another bracket I made for fun because I literally have nothing to do right now..... Poke holes it in 1. Baylor, Stephen F. Austin, Georgia, Alabama State 16. BYU, Utah, UCSB, Denver 8. Nebraska, Missouri, San Diego, SE Missouri State 9. Florida, UCF, Florida State, Kennesaw State 4. Wisconsin, Northern Iowa, Iowa State, Milwaukee 13. Marquette, Purdue, Dayton, Ball State 5. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, American, Sacred Heart 12. Creighton, Louisville, Oklahoma, Samford 2. Texas, Texas State, Cal, Albany 15. Texas A&M, Rice, UCLA, Winthrop 7. Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Wright State, Northern Kentucky 10. Minnesota, South Dakota, Washington State, Fairfield 3. Stanford, Cal Poly, Illinois, Princeton 14. Penn State, Norte Dame, Towson, Howard 6. Washington, Michigan, Pepperdine, Northern Colorado 11. Hawaii, USC, Colorado State, New Mexico State
Deciding who gets seeded between BYU and Utah is truly a toss-up. BYU has the H2H victory and the victory against Stanford. The big red flag of course is not winning there conference. Utah has 2 T25 victories against Kentucky and Washington. They also have defeated USC (2x), UCLA (2x), Cal Poly, and Cal. In the end, I selected BYU because of the H2H but I have no arguments if the committee decided to sent BYU to Utah. I just could not seed Western Kentucky because there only quality wins are Rice (2x), Northern Kentucky (T50), Arizona State, and Ohio State. Teams on the Bubble I left Out (RPI from Figstats): South Carolina (41), VCU (48) , Green Bay (46), Arizona State (51), Coastal Carolina (52), Georgia Tech (56), St. John's and Villanova in particular could make some noise this upcoming week. I have three Horizon teams making the tournament; travel being a key factor. I also selected Pepperdine to be one of the last in the tournament because they have a T25 win against USD..... However, that win is definitely not set in stone and may fluctuate back to T26-50. Kentucky is the only team in the RPI Top 20 that has a loss to an RPI 101-150 team. Literally the only team. They also have an RPI 26-50 loss. Nebraska has neither, has two fewer overall losses, and has a better RPI. Kentucky will not be ahead of Nebraska, even though in this instance it would probably benefit them to go to baylor and not ut. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 13:07:46 GMT -5
Washington will not be a top 4 seed. I looked it up a while back and in like the last decade (can't remember, but it was 5-10 years) the top 4 seeds have all had Top 5 RPIs on selection sunday. Washington is 8 right now.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2019 13:12:38 GMT -5
Washington will not be a top 4 seed. I looked it up a while back and in like the last decade (can't remember, but it was 5-10 years) the top 4 seeds have all had Top 5 RPIs on selection sunday. Washington is 8 right now. It’s very very unlikely — but I still think Washington should seeded 6 or so — if they don’t lose this week |
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Post by bprtbone on Nov 25, 2019 13:13:43 GMT -5
Wright State won, outright, the regular season Horizon League. RPI 7th best conference in country. Ran into a smoking hot NKU team in the semis and fell short (3-1 loss). Several Top 50 wins, win over Notre Dame @nd...if HL only gets two in I don’t see how the committee leaves them out. If HL gets three - I think WSU is a lock. I’m with you — because of the big non-conference win over Notre Dame. If they only get one more — it should fo to Milwaukee. Milwaukee beat GB 3x and I can’t accept GB getting in above them. With a SOS of ~230? I think Horizon only gets two in. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 25, 2019 13:16:49 GMT -5
I’m with you — because of the big non-conference win over Notre Dame. If they only get one more — it should fo to Milwaukee. Milwaukee beat GB 3x and I can’t accept GB getting in above them. With a SOS of ~230? I think Horizon only gets two in. I’m arguing this IF there is a 3-team quota, Milwaukee should be the choice if it came down to those two. Should South Dakota and ASU be above Milwaukee? South Carolina too? Idk |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 13:17:21 GMT -5
Washington will not be a top 4 seed. I looked it up a while back and in like the last decade (can't remember, but it was 5-10 years) the top 4 seeds have all had Top 5 RPIs on selection sunday. Washington is 8 right now. It’s very very unlikely — but I still think Washington should seeded 6 or so — if they don’t lose this week Nebraska, Washington, Florida should fill out 6-8 in some fashion, in my opinion. |
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Post by rogerdodger on Nov 25, 2019 13:20:25 GMT -5
Wright State won, outright, the regular season Horizon League. RPI 7th best conference in country. Ran into a smoking hot NKU team in the semis and fell short (3-1 loss). Several Top 50 wins, win over Notre Dame @nd...if HL only gets two in I don’t see how the committee leaves them out. If HL gets three - I think WSU is a lock. I’m with you — because of the big non-conference win over Notre Dame. If they only get one more — it should fo to Milwaukee. Milwaukee beat GB 3x and I can’t accept GB getting in above them. Did a little more digging- Wright State also swept the last half of conference play (8-0). Win over NKU (@nku). They were 2-0 vs NKU in regular season play. Hard to beat a good team three times, especially a good *hot* team. Also, new rpi’s out today have them at 44 and highest in conference. They should be a lock for at large. |
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Post by haw2991 on Nov 25, 2019 13:40:10 GMT -5
Another bracket I made for fun because I literally have nothing to do right now..... Poke holes it in 1. Baylor, Stephen F. Austin, Georgia, Alabama State 16. BYU, Utah, UCSB, Denver 8. Nebraska, Missouri, San Diego, SE Missouri State 9. Florida, UCF, Florida State, Kennesaw State 4. Wisconsin, Northern Iowa, Iowa State, Milwaukee 13. Marquette, Purdue, Dayton, Ball State 5. Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, American, Sacred Heart 12. Creighton, Louisville, Oklahoma, Samford 2. Texas, Texas State, Cal, Albany 15. Texas A&M, Rice, UCLA, Winthrop 7. Kentucky, Western Kentucky, Wright State, Northern Kentucky 10. Minnesota, South Dakota, Washington State, Fairfield 3. Stanford, Cal Poly, Illinois, Princeton 14. Penn State, Norte Dame, Towson, Howard 6. Washington, Michigan, Pepperdine, Northern Colorado 11. Hawaii, USC, Colorado State, New Mexico State
Deciding who gets seeded between BYU and Utah is truly a toss-up. BYU has the H2H victory and the victory against Stanford. The big red flag of course is not winning there conference. Utah has 2 T25 victories against Kentucky and Washington. They also have defeated USC (2x), UCLA (2x), Cal Poly, and Cal. In the end, I selected BYU because of the H2H but I have no arguments if the committee decided to sent BYU to Utah. I just could not seed Western Kentucky because there only quality wins are Rice (2x), Northern Kentucky (T50), Arizona State, and Ohio State. Teams on the Bubble I left Out (RPI from Figstats): South Carolina (41), VCU (48) , Green Bay (46), Arizona State (51), Coastal Carolina (52), Georgia Tech (56), St. John's and Villanova in particular could make some noise this upcoming week. I have three Horizon teams making the tournament; travel being a key factor. I also selected Pepperdine to be one of the last in the tournament because they have a T25 win against USD..... However, that win is definitely not set in stone and may fluctuate back to T26-50. Can you explain the BYU, Utah, UCSB, Denver group to me? I'm not saying it's inaccurate but you have 3 teams all within 16 RPI places of one another (Utah at 16, BYU 20 and UCSB 32). Seems like the highest aggregate RPI group by far. Assuming only one of the two (BYU/Utah) are seeded. I'm certain the committee will sent the other team there as it's a literal drive-in. Based on travel, UCSB/Cal Poly/Colorado State are probably the only at-large options that can be sent to Provo/Utah. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 25, 2019 13:42:30 GMT -5
It’s very very unlikely — but I still think Washington should seeded 6 or so — if they don’t lose this week Nebraska, Washington, Florida should fill out 6-8 in some fashion, in my opinion. No. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 13:57:45 GMT -5
Nebraska, Washington, Florida should fill out 6-8 in some fashion, in my opinion. No. Please, then, enlighten me. You think Hawaii should be 6-8? |
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Nov 25, 2019 14:02:24 GMT -5
It’s very very unlikely — but I still think Washington should seeded 6 or so — if they don’t lose this week Nebraska, Washington, Florida should fill out 6-8 in some fashion, in my opinion. It's remarkable the number of common opponents between NE and WA. I can't recall two teams from different leagues sharing in so many. Both teams were undefeated against the 6 opponents of Iowa (x 2 for NE), Creighton, UCLA (x 2 UW), San Diego, Illinois and Arizona (X 2 UW). What stands out to me is the 2 common opponents of Stanford and WIS. Washington was 3-0 and NE was 0-3. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on Nov 25, 2019 14:05:43 GMT -5
Please, then, enlighten me. You think Hawaii should be 6-8? That I don't know, but I'm guessing Florida is not likely in the top 8, of the three, I'm thinking Nebraska will get the 6 seed. Hawai'i has no chance for a 6-8 seed, never did, because of the conference. |
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Nov 25, 2019 14:07:44 GMT -5
Please, then, enlighten me. You think Hawaii should be 6-8? That I don't know, but I'm guessing Florida is not likely in the top 8, of the three, I'm thinking Nebraska will get the 6 seed. I think we posted concurrently. See my above post and then explain why you think Nebraska is 6. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 14:10:48 GMT -5
Can you explain the BYU, Utah, UCSB, Denver group to me? I'm not saying it's inaccurate but you have 3 teams all within 16 RPI places of one another (Utah at 16, BYU 20 and UCSB 32). Seems like the highest aggregate RPI group by far. Assuming only one of the two (BYU/Utah) are seeded. I'm certain the committee will sent the other team there as it's a literal drive-in. Based on travel, UCSB/Cal Poly/Colorado State are probably the only at-large options that can be sent to Provo/Utah. Ok, with you so far. But as the highest ranked of those 3 teams wouldn't SB be the least likely to be the #3 in that bracket? Especially when you have Poly, who are below SB in RPI as #2 in their bracket? Again, not saying you're wrong. Just trying to understand the thinking. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2019 14:15:38 GMT -5
That I don't know, but I'm guessing Florida is not likely in the top 8, of the three, I'm thinking Nebraska will get the 6 seed. I think we posted concurrently. See my above post and then explain why you think Nebraska is 6. What you said is true. And this is also true: Washington has 3 losses worse than Nebraska's worst. Washington does have better wins, and the common opponent factor. That's why I think those two are in the 6-7 category. |
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