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Texas 2020
Nov 17, 2020 17:20:22 GMT -5
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Post by dodger on Nov 17, 2020 17:20:22 GMT -5
So the assumption is that Texas gave out 6 scholarships in the fall of 2020: and on the same day that they say due to travel restrictions they say that they signed the 2 foreign players! Wow way weird! So texas had 6 scholarships available in fall 2020? Really? Interesting that because of covid texas announces signing and cant get here the same day? They are definitely three 2020 signees - Iosia, Cabello, Williams. Heinrich is non-scholarship. It is also assumed that Morgan O'Brien is non-scholarship. Not sure on the scholarship status for the two international players. If Parra and Mualal had been here this fall, then two players most assumed to be on scholarship would not have been. Probably would have been from a group of four (Jhenna Gabriel who has been non-scholarship, Capri Davis who was transferring from Nebraska, and the two international recruits). As events worked out, there should be scholarships for both international students and Gabriel in the spring. Capri Davis has reportedly given up volleyball so assuming her ship will be available in the spring. Also Ashley Shook is graduate transferring which has been the plan and was likely part of the scholarship plan for either Gabriel or Parra. Parra has been a Texas commit for a couple of years. We don't know why she hadn't signed her LOI previously (like on signing day for example), but a good assumption is that there was some delay in being accepted for admission by the school. Mualal was an out of the blue signee. No one even knew that she was being recruited. In retrospect, Elliott may have had indications that Davis wasn't going to play. It appeared she wasn't with the team in early August, so possibly Mualal was recruited for that spot. Or maybe just because she is a great prospect. Now why don't you just make the allegation that you seem to be implying with your 20 questions? Usually a press release comes when there is a signed LOI at texas. A foot note mentioning it at bottom of article unusual . You also must sign LOI between Nov. and August 1? So they may have been given scholarship contract but no LOI . I make no allegations. Most UT supporters here seem to be hoping for 2 more players: attempting to see your vision of that happening? If they were admitted for fall and had scholarship contracts in hand your hopes are rewarded; if covid restrictions doesnt stop them. But the limited press releases makes there eligibility unkown without all the facts that the UT compliance office has!! Only time will tell! ps: usually a foreign player who attends HS in USA for one year is for english: a HS diploma from US removes the TOEFL score requirement for admission
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Post by hornfanaustin on Nov 17, 2020 17:28:55 GMT -5
There are no .5 scholarships: and a financial offer must accompany NLI You're correct about no 0.5. But when we say "Signed with Texas" we mean that they agreed to come to Texas (as a walkon), but went through with the ceremony of signing a piece of paper.
I've put up pictures of Jhenna Gabriel signing her "papers" to come to Texas along with other athletes in Honolulu. But certainly her first year she was not on a scholarship.
I've got a friend whose daughter "signed" to play with a DIII school in her gym along with her teammates and pictures were taken. And we know DIII doesn't offer scholarships.
So, fake NLI for pictures then.
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Texas 2020
Nov 17, 2020 17:33:28 GMT -5
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Post by dodger on Nov 17, 2020 17:33:28 GMT -5
There are no .5 scholarships: and a financial offer must accompany NLI You're correct about no 0.5. But when we say "Signed with Texas" we mean that they agreed to come to Texas (as a walkon), but went through with the ceremony of signing a piece of paper.
I've put up pictures of Jhenna Gabriel signing her "papers" to come to Texas along with other athletes in Honolulu. But certainly her first year she was not on a scholarship.
I've got a friend whose daughter "signed" to play with a DIII school in her gym along with her teammates and pictures were taken. And we know DIII doesn't offer scholarships.
So, fake NLI for pictures then.
Above does happen: but for this year and adding players in spring saying “committed” probably doesnt make you eligible for this years spring season?? Probably need admission to UT for fall and scholarship contract signed! But only UT compliance know’s for sure
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Post by horns1 on Nov 17, 2020 19:00:30 GMT -5
Not every recruit signs a national letter of intent (LOI). Some sign an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA) which typically occurs after the normal signing period.
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 17, 2020 19:23:54 GMT -5
They are definitely three 2020 signees - Iosia, Cabello, Williams. Heinrich is non-scholarship. It is also assumed that Morgan O'Brien is non-scholarship. Not sure on the scholarship status for the two international players. If Parra and Mualal had been here this fall, then two players most assumed to be on scholarship would not have been. Probably would have been from a group of four (Jhenna Gabriel who has been non-scholarship, Capri Davis who was transferring from Nebraska, and the two international recruits). As events worked out, there should be scholarships for both international students and Gabriel in the spring. Capri Davis has reportedly given up volleyball so assuming her ship will be available in the spring. Also Ashley Shook is graduate transferring which has been the plan and was likely part of the scholarship plan for either Gabriel or Parra. Parra has been a Texas commit for a couple of years. We don't know why she hadn't signed her LOI previously (like on signing day for example), but a good assumption is that there was some delay in being accepted for admission by the school. Mualal was an out of the blue signee. No one even knew that she was being recruited. In retrospect, Elliott may have had indications that Davis wasn't going to play. It appeared she wasn't with the team in early August, so possibly Mualal was recruited for that spot. Or maybe just because she is a great prospect. Now why don't you just make the allegation that you seem to be implying with your 20 questions? Usually a press release comes when there is a signed LOI at texas. A foot note mentioning it at bottom of article unusual . You also must sign LOI between Nov. and August 1? So they may have been given scholarship contract but no LOI . I make no allegations. Most UT supporters here seem to be hoping for 2 more players: attempting to see your vision of that happening? If they were admitted for fall and had scholarship contracts in hand your hopes are rewarded; if covid restrictions doesnt stop them. But the limited press releases makes there eligibility unkown without all the facts that the UT compliance office has!! Only time will tell! ps: usually a foreign player who attends HS in USA for one year is for english: a HS diploma from US removes the TOEFL score requirement for admission For starters, what you are reading is not just an article. It is the news release given to all media. Yes, just mentioning those two in the last paragraph is unusual. It's also not usual for the "signing" to occur just prior to the start of the season and then have the two signees not be able to start with the team. If they were going to play in the fall, I feel certain they would have received a more normal write-up. I also expect that if and when they join the team in January, there will be another press release with their full background. Yes an LOI must have been signed by 8/1. The article was on 8/6. I don't find it unreasonable that they could have signed by 8/1, but the formal announcement wasn't made until 8/6. IIRC 8/6 was the week that practices start. If they didn't sign by 8/1, you would be correct that the could sign a financial aid offer, but no an LOI. Also if one or neither was going to be on scholarship in the fall, then they wouldn't have signed an LOI. However as mentioned in other posts, the word "signing" in the announcement tends to be used loosely and doesn't necessarily mean an LOI was signed or even a financial aid offer. I have especially seen this in volleyball announcements. If you go back to our November 2019 announcement, there is no distinction between Heinrich and the other three even though it's known that Heinrich is non-scholarship. Not sure the reason for all your questions. If you are questioning whether Parra or Maulal will be here in the spring, just say so. The reason for optimism. I believe it was in a press conference that Elliott stated that he expected both Parra and Malual to be with the team in the spring. I believe the timing was in October. I know it was just a few days after there were an Italian website article stating that Malual was considering signing with an Italian pro team instead of coming to Texas. I don't remember if it was also after the NCAA issued it's statement on 2020 signees being eligible for the spring or if not, Elliott made another comment after the change. The NCAA rule change does clarify that athletes in their situation will be allowed to participate in the spring so their is no appeal or further ruling necessary. Concerns According to the Italian website article, Malual was considering signing with a pro team. This would not be a huge surprise as many European players that do start school in the US don't stay for four years. Our last one left at Thanksgiving her first semester. We still don't know the source of the COVID travel restrictions and I think its reasonable to be concerned that they could still be in place in January. Lastly, you're reading way too much into the press releases IMO.
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Texas 2020
Nov 17, 2020 22:33:11 GMT -5
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Post by dodger on Nov 17, 2020 22:33:11 GMT -5
Not every recruit signs a national letter of intent (LOI). Some sign an Athletic Scholarship Agreement (ASA) which typically occurs after the normal signing period. I am aware and Thats true!
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Texas 2020
Nov 17, 2020 22:42:48 GMT -5
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Post by dodger on Nov 17, 2020 22:42:48 GMT -5
Quote:” Not sure the reason for all your questions. If you are questioning whether Parra or Maulal will be here in the spring, just say so.”
History of posts: was reading posts; saw that texas and baylor adding players in January, was curious who the 2 texas players were because i hadnt seen any previous release on that info: and it seemed the texas boosters posting were counting (if they come) on those 2 players. So, i wondered aloud who are they, and based on NCAA guidelines for midterm eligibility how they might be eligible! And i concluded in post that at this time that only the Texas Compliance office knew for sure. So who are they and their eligibility for spring discussion! No big deal. Academic discussion on observable documentation and rules as our understanding of same. Ok??
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Post by chicagosports on Nov 19, 2020 0:24:09 GMT -5
I will say I find it odd that Parra is the only Mexican volleyball player who didn’t - and still hasn’t - gone to the states. Ung (setter for Washington State) and Maldonado (OH for Arizona) immediately come to mind, both freshmen who didn’t have any issues enrolling and/or traveling to the states to get started with their respective schools.
I know Parra had to do that semester of work in Texas, so there’s obviously a different situation for her there, but I’m not sure how much COVID actually factored with her being able to “attend.”.
I don’t know anything though – for all I know the plan has been set to join in January for awhile and none of this even matters.
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Post by dodger on Nov 19, 2020 1:44:44 GMT -5
Trie that
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 19, 2020 10:18:13 GMT -5
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Post by texastothehouse15 on Nov 20, 2020 4:04:58 GMT -5
Based on Melanie Parra's IG story, it seems that they do have a way for her to get on campus in January. She posted a picture of her Texas commitment post of them on the football field and said "Ya casi" which translates to "almost"
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Texas 2020
Nov 20, 2020 11:21:47 GMT -5
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Post by dl3ww on Nov 20, 2020 11:21:47 GMT -5
Was looking at someone’s social media (don’t one to say who, bc I don’t know if the staff actually see’s this😂), and I seen one of the girls traveling to the WV game with a boot on their right foot, any idea on who that could be?
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Post by stevehorn on Nov 20, 2020 12:35:39 GMT -5
Was looking at someone’s social media (don’t one to say who, bc I don’t know if the staff actually see’s this😂), and I seen one of the girls traveling to the WV game with a boot on their right foot, any idea on who that could be? I probably could guess almost the whole team since wearing a boot seems to be a common preventive practice these days. Most likely someone tweeked an ankle just before the trip.
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Post by sunsuphornsup on Nov 21, 2020 9:14:43 GMT -5
This was actually very funny.
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Post by cactus on Nov 21, 2020 15:25:03 GMT -5
Was looking at someone’s social media (don’t one to say who, bc I don’t know if the staff actually see’s this😂), and I seen one of the girls traveling to the WV game with a boot on their right foot, any idea on who that could be? I probably could guess almost the whole team since wearing a boot seems to be a common preventive practice these days. Most likely someone tweeked an ankle just before the trip. Molly is wearing the boot. You can see better just before & after the 8.40 mark.
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