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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2020 22:31:44 GMT -5
McGraw had an odd season. She was hitting her stride and got injured (a concussion, I'd guess). She was always passing at least half of the court. But, yes, she really struggled the 2nd half, just like she did her frosh season. I don't think it's fair, however, to put this all on her. Samedy was terrible in 2019. I'm sorry, but she was. Stats are misleading if they tell you otherwise, imo. I don't think they hit well out-of-system. And they made the final four. Full credit to the team for that. Not looking to argue about your analytics or your conclusions. Just adding my two cents. FWIW. Not looking to argue with you either (or UMN fans in general). Never said I was. It's objectively false that McGraw passed better in the first half of the season (she passed a 1.96 in non conference, a 2.01 in conference) but either way, I don't think anyone is disputing, she wasn't at an AA level. But that aside, I agree in every respect. Likewise, I'd never suggest that the team's passing woes weren't the responsibility of the entire unit. As we saw with both UMN and Nebraska this year, if one player is struggling it affects everyone else, both in terms of responsibilities and confidence. My interest in the Gophers passing is limited to how it'll affect them in 2020. They welcome one of the best freshman classes in the country, but a repeat performance of 2019's passing could limit what will otherwise be an extremely exciting roster. If their passing can return to even a solid level, they're going to be formidable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 12:18:39 GMT -5
Was Samedy injured at all this season? I recalled seeing something of shoulder issues?
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Post by craftylefty on Feb 17, 2020 15:33:25 GMT -5
Since we are talking passing, does anyone have any stats for Rosado? Curious how she compared to McGraw. I would guess McGraw is actually a hair better in her only two years here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 15:48:54 GMT -5
I do not know what Gopher team anyone who thinks they hit well out-of-system was watching. Just one of the many mysteries of the 2019 Gophers -- how they were able to win with poor passing, Miller out, and no Steph Samedy. Hart took some good swings, I guess, but out-of-system was never her strength. Blocking helped. As did staying in points until they could get in system. I think the answer to how they were able to win with all of those factors is that they were beating teams they were more talented than, even with substandard passing and an injured setter. That part of the schedule avoided Nebraska and Penn State. They lost twice to Wisconsin, and I think Miller was back for the loss to Nebraska. The matches that surprised me they worked through with wins were @ Purdue and @ Michigan. Otherwise, they were just better than everyone else |
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Post by courtwatchers on Feb 17, 2020 17:45:48 GMT -5
So, what I am asking is, how much input/teaching does the head coach have with the Libero position? With Mike Hebert the Gopher Program saw the Liberos performing at top notch during his coaching tenure. Honestly, I have not seen that happening since Hugh McCutcheon's has been the coach.
Maybe I am way off base and the head coach has nothing to do with my opening question. If someone can speak to this, go right ahead. I have no knowledge just curious.....it all could just be coincidental.
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Post by curiouskg on Feb 17, 2020 17:50:55 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:44:46 GMT -5
So, what I am asking is, how much input/teaching does the head coach have with the Libero position? With Mike Hebert the Gopher Program saw the Liberos performing at top notch during his coaching tenure. Honestly, I have not seen that happening since Hugh McCutcheon's has been the coach. Maybe I am way off base and the head coach has nothing to do with my opening question. If someone can speak to this, go right ahead. I have no knowledge just curious.....it all could just be coincidental. Depends who the defensive coach is. They'll coach the DS/Liberos as a group and determine defensive game plan each week. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 18:49:24 GMT -5
This is a case of her adding herself to the list (which is why, as others here noted, she wasn't on the initial release) - I saw the first version of the list over the holidays - Caroline was not on it. gibbyb1 might as well tag you since you are still curious about the process. Those invited get notified thru their school in November/December, the rest get added to the list as and when they submit. Edit: As such, her participation has nothing to do with her passing grade of 1.98 (2.01 in conference) in 2019. |
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Post by curiouskg on Feb 17, 2020 19:01:56 GMT -5
Really @bigwestfan2 - we get it. You don't like her. No need to jump on every mention of her and reiterate her passing grade.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:16:27 GMT -5
Really @bigwestfan2 - we get it. You don't like her. No need to jump on every mention of her and reiterate her passing grade. You clearly don't get it. I've known McGraw since she was 15. If you haven't followed my posting, it might seem I'm interested in her, but my focus (as always) is understanding the game. Passing is an important element of that. For what it's worth, McGraw's grade was actually the second best on the team. Passing was a weakness in general, not individually. |
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Post by Snoopy on Feb 17, 2020 21:34:20 GMT -5
Really @bigwestfan2 - we get it. You don't like her. No need to jump on every mention of her and reiterate her passing grade. You clearly don't get it. I've known McGraw since she was 15. If you haven't followed my posting, it might seem I'm interested in her, but my focus (as always) is understanding the game. Passing is an important element of that. For what it's worth, McGraw's grade was actually the second best on the team. Passing was a weakness in general, not individually. Are the passing numbers serve-receive only? Are there similar stats for free ball passing and digging? Who assigns grades - which seem subjective by definition? Just trying to learn more... |
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Post by B1Gminnesotafan on Feb 17, 2020 21:43:37 GMT -5
Zachary Bush named next volunteer assistant coach according to his instagram I couldn't find this on instagram or elsewhere. Also, is he related to any other Bush we know? |
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Post by curiouskg on Feb 17, 2020 21:59:28 GMT -5
Really @bigwestfan2 - we get it. You don't like her. No need to jump on every mention of her and reiterate her passing grade. You clearly don't get it. I've known McGraw since she was 15. If you haven't followed my posting, it might seem I'm interested in her, but my focus (as always) is understanding the game. Passing is an important element of that. For what it's worth, McGraw's grade was actually the second best on the team. Passing was a weakness in general, not individually. You do you - but if that's how you support someone you know, I'll pass on "getting it'. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 22:07:40 GMT -5
You clearly don't get it. I've known McGraw since she was 15. If you haven't followed my posting, it might seem I'm interested in her, but my focus (as always) is understanding the game. Passing is an important element of that. For what it's worth, McGraw's grade was actually the second best on the team. Passing was a weakness in general, not individually. Are the passing numbers serve-receive only? Are there similar stats for free ball passing and digging? Who assigns grades - which seem subjective by definition? Just trying to learn more... Yes, passing is exclusively the first contact by the team receiving serve. The stats are recorded and compiled by an analytics service called Volleymetrics which is used by many D1 programs. The service also codes the game film which allows us to refer back to the film, so I can, for instance, pull up every single pass by a specific player from a game and watch each play. Since their team grades every game, for every program, the service is a useful tool for player evaluation & comparison (although obviously not the ONLY tool we use). I make an effort to share data here that I think will shed light on things that aren't being discussed (like an underappreciated player's excellence or a well regarded player's struggles) because I think it helps the community understand the game better. Some people have an issue with the data (because it doesn't show what they want it to) and then infer that I "don't like" a certain player, but they can't actually refute the data (because it's a numerical expression of what happened), so they get upset at me. It's all good though - most people are like you and just want to know more about the sport/college/players they follow. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 22:13:19 GMT -5
You clearly don't get it. I've known McGraw since she was 15. If you haven't followed my posting, it might seem I'm interested in her, but my focus (as always) is understanding the game. Passing is an important element of that. For what it's worth, McGraw's grade was actually the second best on the team. Passing was a weakness in general, not individually. You do you - but if that's how you support someone you know, I'll pass on "getting it'. My posting here is just to share some data on the season. I've worked with McGraw in the past and I'll see her again this weekend in Colorado. That's how I 'support' players. |
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