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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2020 22:03:20 GMT -5
What is the reason for their poor form? Lack of adequate match experience at the international level? Black simply not cutting it as a NT coach? Simply an accurate reflection of their level of play? I would guess lack of preparation for this event and lack of experience in a match like this. They’ve definitely played much better matches than this and multiple in a row as well. But also they really do miss Bailey’s serve receive and defense. Van Ryk also seemed a bit better on the right to me as well, although she has gotten better since the summer it seems Correct me if I am wrong, but historically, the Canadian men's team has done better than the women's team? I believe overall, the men's team has acheived better results than the women. Why is that I wonder? Maybe less competition on the men's side? And what is holding the women's team back? I'm not just talking about the college game, but volleyball in Canada is...reasonably popular, right? Ok, hockey and lacrosse will always have pride of place above the 49th parallel, but where does volleyball rank in Canada compared to say, baseball, (Canadian) football and basketball? |
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Post by chicagosports on Jan 10, 2020 22:05:50 GMT -5
Mexico? Not getting swept by the DR?
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Post by deacondive on Jan 10, 2020 22:07:37 GMT -5
Mexico? Not getting swept by the DR?
Bricio with the standing float serve She was on fire attacking until the end of the set. Martinez was unstoppable |
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Post by newbeach on Jan 10, 2020 22:08:27 GMT -5
I do feel Canada was ill-prepared, but very inconsistent play from both sides. Puerto Rico was not impressive overall, and Dominican will have an easy time with either team, if they play the way they did. Canada can play much better, but unfortunately, with the setting today, they didn't have a chance (passing wasn't much better, but that is somewhat expected from the team). King can set much better, but I think she is just a little too experienced and maybe felt the pressure. I wish Black would have put in Smith a little sooner, and take the pressure off King. Disappointing. : ( What is the reason for their poor form? Lack of adequate match experience at the international level? Black simply not cutting it as a NT coach? Simply an accurate reflection of their level of play? I think it is a combination of things: Coaching staff a little inexperienced. Not that they are doing terrible, but I do feel they lack experience, and I question some of the decision-making during games. Black's commitment to Georgia may have hurt this team in an Olympic qualifying year. He missed the Pan Am Games, and Canada sent mainly a Next Gen team to the Pan Am Games partly as a result of Black's commitment to NCAA. I would have preferred to send Maglio, Van Ryk, King etc. to these games for more experience. This is Maglio's second year of international experience (she has never played youth teams etc. internationally). Van Ryk has had a little international experience in the junior ranks, but only her second year at the senior-level. King has only had this past summer for international experience. These players play a key role, and I don't feel they got as much development as they could have this past summer. I don't get developing the Next Gen players when some of your A-team still need international experience. As well, as a result of Black's NCAA commitment. The team was without Black after the Olympic Qualifier in Russia (August 4th). They spent the last month training for the Pan Am Games, plus their last competition without him. The assistant coach and Next Gen coach ran practices and coached. A-Team and Next Gen team then practiced together, and the A-Team really was not working together as a unit. I felt the team lost a lot of traction during this period when other teams were peaking. Especially in an Olympic qualifier year, I think they need a full-time coach. The team travelled to Georgia on the 26/27th. PR got together on the 16th of Dec. (minus Santana, Enright etc. who arrived around the 26th and 27th). Then PR had friendly matches with Peru. I would have liked to see Canada get together sooner even if not the whole team. Budget probably prevented them from going to Georgia sooner, but maybe some of them could have started together sooner in Vancouver? Again, budget may have been the reason for this, and getting all the players there. |
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Post by newbeach on Jan 10, 2020 22:11:39 GMT -5
Bricio leading all attackers.
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Post by chicagosports on Jan 10, 2020 22:12:48 GMT -5
Mexico's young setter looks promising.
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2020 22:16:22 GMT -5
What is the reason for their poor form? Lack of adequate match experience at the international level? Black simply not cutting it as a NT coach? Simply an accurate reflection of their level of play? I think it is a combination of things: Coaching staff a little inexperienced. Not that they are doing terrible, but I do feel they lack experience, and I question some of the decision-making during games. Black's commitment to Georgia may have hurt this team in an Olympic qualifying year. He missed the Pan Am Games, and Canada sent mainly a Next Gen team to the Pan Am Games partly as a result of Black's commitment to NCAA. I would have preferred to send Maglio, Van Ryk, King etc. to these games for more experience. This is Maglio's second year of international experience (she has never played youth teams etc. internationally). Van Ryk has had a little international experience in the junior ranks, but only her second year at the senior-level. King has only had this past summer for international experience. These players play a key role, and I don't feel they got as much development as they could have this past summer. I don't get developing the Next Gen players when some of your A-team still need international experience. As well, as a result of Black's NCAA commitment. The team was without Black after the Olympic Qualifier in Russia (August 4th). They spent the last month training for the Pan Am Games, plus their last competition without him. The assistant coach and Next Gen coach ran practices and coached. A-Team and Next Gen team then practiced together, and the A-Team really was not working together as a unit. I felt the team lost a lot of traction during this period when other teams were peaking. Especially in an Olympic qualifier year, I think they need a full-time coach. The team travelled to Georgia on the 26/27th. PR got together on the 16th of Dec. (minus Santana, Enright etc. who arrived around the 26th and 27th). Then PR had friendly matches with Peru. I would have liked to see Canada get together sooner even if not the whole team. Budget probably prevented them from going to Georgia sooner, but maybe some of them could have started together sooner in Vancouver? Again, budget may have been the reason for this, and getting all the players there. I wonder if Volleyball Canada is starting to regret their choice of Black as the NT coach...or maybe too early to tell. |
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Post by trojansc on Jan 10, 2020 22:17:45 GMT -5
Mexico is much much improved — but DR’s notorious consistency issues arise again.
The same team that nearly won at Brazil also went 5 with CAMEROON
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Post by newbeach on Jan 10, 2020 22:27:21 GMT -5
I blame the coaching staff for Canada, actually. You have a young, inexperienced setter out there, and the setting was horrible. She should have been pulled a long time ago. To let her stay in and set poor set after poor set, was painful to watch. Gray, Maglio, Van Ryk, barely able to get a tip or swing. Once Smith went in in the 5th, they had a bit of a chance. Painful to watch them win 2 sets and then watch that setting. Agree on the setting. That damn challenge in the middle of the rally when they were up 21-19 in the fourth came back to bite coach’s behind in the end. They easily could’ve went up 22-19 with a transition play coming up. But it’s all irrelevant now, they had their chances. This team has pieces to be good and be the next best behind the USA in the NORCECA this upcoming quad, they need some consistent aggressive play tho. Also, I need to stay positive. This team is relatively young and some of the players are getting good pro experience and training. Although this felt like one of those slip away matches, it’s definitely already a better showing than anything they had last quad’s Olympic qualification tourney Yeah, unfortunately I think that at least Puerto Rico was within their reach. Playing in the VNL this year will provide good experience for the young squad. |
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2020 22:27:42 GMT -5
Looks like it's going to be a 5 setter for DR...unless they play better right now.
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Post by newbeach on Jan 10, 2020 22:32:27 GMT -5
What is the chance that DR makes it through the tournament without going 5? : )
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2020 22:41:14 GMT -5
DR just can't capitalize on opportunities. It's not like they didn't have the chance to go ahead. They can't terminate when they need to.
I was called out when I said they were prone to choking. Fine, that might be going too far. But they sure as hell are WAY too inconsistent. If DR loses to Mexico, well, they can only blame themselves for not getting over this problem.
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Post by trojansc on Jan 10, 2020 22:42:42 GMT -5
Un freaking believable.
Dominicana has played more 5 setters than any nation. It is incredible.
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Post by deacondive on Jan 10, 2020 22:43:09 GMT -5
Wow Mexico shows some guts and wins set 4
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Post by ironhammer on Jan 10, 2020 22:45:58 GMT -5
Un freaking believable. Dominicana has played more 5 setters than any nation. It is incredible. It's their own fault honestly. They show flashes of brilliance but that is counter-acted by their lack of consistency. They are not going to make a breakthrough and join the ranks of the top tier teams unless they find a way to solve this problem. So naturally, we have to begin by asking why they have been so inconsistent. Skill issue? Mental issue? Cultural issue? Coaching issue? |
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