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Post by dragan11 on Jan 12, 2020 13:59:35 GMT -5
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 15:19:38 GMT -5
Mexico vs Canada
Mexico starting their usual starting lineup. Bricio breaking out her jump serve.
Canada playing a lot of second stringers. Richey at libero? Perrins at MB2, Smith at setter, Belanger at OPP. Black does know that results at major competitions like Olympic qualifiers are heavily weighted in the new World Ranking system?
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 15:29:27 GMT -5
Bricio serving at 20 - 19 Mexico and on serve-receive for Canada Gray, Van Ryk and Richey?
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 15:34:34 GMT -5
Mexico take set 1, 25-21.
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jan 12, 2020 15:38:53 GMT -5
Mexico vs Canada Mexico starting their usual starting lineup. Bricio breaking out her jump serve. Canada playing a lot of second stringers. Richey at libero? Perrins at MB2, Smith at setter, Belanger at OPP. Black does know that results at major competitions like Olympic qualifiers are heavily weighted in the new World Ranking system? He probs wants to give some players a chance to start bc they won’t play with Canada next quad (Richey, Smith, Perrin). But I doubt the other players would be happy with this decision if it meant losing to a team they already beat multiple times this summer. Hopefully they can pull it together though, I just want them to have one good game (even though it’s not looking good atm)
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 15:49:21 GMT -5
Just another questionable decision by Black. Abbondanza believed players earned their playing time, and wanted to move the program forward. Black had a "fair play" policy all summer. If this was a one-time thing, it might be okay, but he has played a lot of the players that won't be back all summer over development of some of the younger players. At this point, with Olympics out of reach, it is somewhat understandable (but leading up to this?). I really believe you have to play the best in an Olympic year (or qualifying year).
He needs to be mindful of the new ranking system for teams at major events. Also, do you really want a team like Mexico to get confident playing against Canada? They have the potential to beat Canada.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jan 12, 2020 15:55:03 GMT -5
Just another questionable decision by Black. Abbondanza believed players earned their playing time, and wanted to move the program forward. Black had a "fair play" policy all summer. If this was a one-time thing, it might be okay, but he has played a lot of the players that won't be back all summer over development of some of the younger players. At this point, with Olympics out of reach, it is somewhat understandable (but leading up to this?). I really believe you have to play the best in an Olympic year (or qualifying year). He needs to be mindful of the new ranking system for teams at major events. Also, do you really want a team like Mexico to get confident playing against Canada? They have the potential to beat Canada. I actually think the level of NORCECA might be rebounding. Canada under Abbondanza got all of their best athletes back in the gym (shed a tear for Pavan and Gordon) for the first time in a while, and Mexico has Bricio and Rangel can score at the NORCECA level. Still pretty far off from the world level, and USA & DR should still be a ways ahead talent-wise, but the gap is shrinking. In a few years we may see some upsets finally. Puerto Rico also looks to be moving past the disruption they had a couple seasons ago with the hurricane.
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Post by trojansc on Jan 12, 2020 16:45:44 GMT -5
Dominicans must really hate Canada. 🤣 They’re getting loud for Mexico here.
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Post by chicagosports on Jan 12, 2020 16:49:39 GMT -5
Just another questionable decision by Black. Abbondanza believed players earned their playing time, and wanted to move the program forward. Black had a "fair play" policy all summer. If this was a one-time thing, it might be okay, but he has played a lot of the players that won't be back all summer over development of some of the younger players. At this point, with Olympics out of reach, it is somewhat understandable (but leading up to this?). I really believe you have to play the best in an Olympic year (or qualifying year). He needs to be mindful of the new ranking system for teams at major events. Also, do you really want a team like Mexico to get confident playing against Canada? They have the potential to beat Canada. I actually think the level of NORCECA might be rebounding. Canada under Abbondanza got all of their best athletes back in the gym (shed a tear for Pavan and Gordon) for the first time in a while, and Mexico has Bricio and Rangel can score at the NORCECA level. Still pretty far off from the world level, and USA & DR should still be a ways ahead talent-wise, but the gap is shrinking. In a few years we may see some upsets finally. Puerto Rico also looks to be moving past the disruption they had a couple seasons ago with the hurricane. Agreed. Mexico's young setter also gives them a new look; She provides a better block and has a solid connection with Bricio. She's only 17 so it'll be interesting to see how she develops. Their problem is the lack of support and structure, they got the full team together just 5 days before the event...
Santana makes Puerto Rico that much better, too. She's been playing great since coming back and with how inconsistent DR can be, I can see PR really challenging for the bid.
Either way, I'd prefer a much more competitive NORCECA than the cakewalks US and DR normally have, so hopefully eventually.
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jan 12, 2020 17:08:05 GMT -5
Just another questionable decision by Black. Abbondanza believed players earned their playing time, and wanted to move the program forward. Black had a "fair play" policy all summer. If this was a one-time thing, it might be okay, but he has played a lot of the players that won't be back all summer over development of some of the younger players. At this point, with Olympics out of reach, it is somewhat understandable (but leading up to this?). I really believe you have to play the best in an Olympic year (or qualifying year). He needs to be mindful of the new ranking system for teams at major events. Also, do you really want a team like Mexico to get confident playing against Canada? They have the potential to beat Canada. Black made another questionable decision. Van Ryk scoring at will and when she rotated to the back (up 13-8 or around there) he subs in Mitrovic to serve and play back row. Mitrovic can’t get a good pass on the serves and they won’t set Mitrovic in the back like they do to Van Ryk either, so everything goes to Gray. Mexico started closing the lead and was only down 14-16 at the second TTO. The live stream went down but I doubt he put Van Ryk back in bc Canada ended up losing their lead and found themselves down 17-18.
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Post by trojansc on Jan 12, 2020 17:14:18 GMT -5
Hard to feel good when you go 0-3 — but after the first two sets against DR Mexico was competitive in every single set. They shouldn’t feel too down.
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 17:17:20 GMT -5
Just another questionable decision by Black. Abbondanza believed players earned their playing time, and wanted to move the program forward. Black had a "fair play" policy all summer. If this was a one-time thing, it might be okay, but he has played a lot of the players that won't be back all summer over development of some of the younger players. At this point, with Olympics out of reach, it is somewhat understandable (but leading up to this?). I really believe you have to play the best in an Olympic year (or qualifying year). He needs to be mindful of the new ranking system for teams at major events. Also, do you really want a team like Mexico to get confident playing against Canada? They have the potential to beat Canada. I actually think the level of NORCECA might be rebounding. Canada under Abbondanza got all of their best athletes back in the gym (shed a tear for Pavan and Gordon) for the first time in a while, and Mexico has Bricio and Rangel can score at the NORCECA level. Still pretty far off from the world level, and USA & DR should still be a ways ahead talent-wise, but the gap is shrinking. In a few years we may see some upsets finally. Puerto Rico also looks to be moving past the disruption they had a couple seasons ago with the hurricane. I agree with this. Overall the NORCECA seems to be on an upswing. Abbondanza wasn't afraid to use fresh talent, whereas prior to him, the program was stagnant with the same players playing, and some of the better (older) players not wanting to play for Canada. Lot's of internal problems with Vball Canada and the women's program for a several years. I just do not want to see Canada take a step back after Abbondanza while Mexico and PR are improving. I am becoming less and less a fan of Black, but if not him, then who? I like a lot of players in the gym, and in the pipeline.
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Post by ronald on Jan 12, 2020 17:21:48 GMT -5
Dominicans must really hate Canada. 🤣 They’re getting loud for Mexico here. No, it’s just that DR and Mexico have good relationship.
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Post by newbeach on Jan 12, 2020 17:22:02 GMT -5
Hard to feel good when you go 0-3 — but after the first two sets against DR Mexico was competitive in every single set. They shouldn’t feel too down. Honestly, I don't think Canada should be too happy about their one win. Mexico at least played a competitive match against DR. Canada was competitive against PR, but I think they could have had that one. I question the timing of subs in that match, and allowing a young, but rattled setter to stay out as long as she did.
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Post by Resident Bitchy Canadian Fan on Jan 12, 2020 17:39:50 GMT -5
Hard to feel good when you go 0-3 — but after the first two sets against DR Mexico was competitive in every single set. They shouldn’t feel too down. Honestly, I don't think Canada should be too happy about their one win. Mexico at least played a competitive match against DR. Canada was competitive against PR, but I think they could have had that one. I question the timing of subs in that match, and allowing a young, but rattled setter to stay out as long as she did. And let’s not forget that mid rally challenge when Canada was up 21-19 and had a transition opportunity. Once they lost that and PR had some confidence, that 4th set was over 😩
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