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Post by bbg95 on Jan 10, 2020 15:31:42 GMT -5
I'm starting to think that with Gneiting going on a mission and Robinson transferring, along with Lake and Miller graduating, this will be another year where BYU will probably be a tournament team but not likely to advance beyond the Sweet 16 in the best-case scenario. There were only three juniors on last year's roster, which are Eschenberg, Ballard-Nixon and Callie Whitney. There were also only three sophomores on the roster. One is the departing Robinson, and one is Gneiting, who will now be a junior in 2021 instead of 2020 due to her mission. The third is backup setter and serve specialist Tayler Tausinga. In contrast, there were eight freshmen on last year's team, including Whitney Bower and Kate Grimmer. They'll all be juniors in 2021, along with Gneiting. With this in mind, I imagine that Olmstead will be looking to develop the younger players as much as possible and set up really good teams in 2021 and 2022. Actually, it's now starting to look like Gneiting picked the best possible time to go on a mission, as she's only really missing a rebuilding/developing year.
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Post by azvb on Jan 10, 2020 18:44:17 GMT -5
I'm starting to think that with Gneiting going on a mission and Robinson transferring, along with Lake and Miller graduating, this will be another year where BYU will probably be a tournament team but not likely to advance beyond the Sweet 16 in the best-case scenario. There were only three juniors on last year's roster, which are Eschenberg, Ballard-Nixon and Callie Whitney. There were also only three sophomores on the roster. One is the departing Robinson, and one is Gneiting, who will now be a junior in 2021 instead of 2020 due to her mission. The third is backup setter and serve specialist Tayler Tausinga. In contrast, there were eight freshmen on last year's team, including Whitney Bower and Kate Grimmer. They'll all be juniors in 2021, along with Gneiting. With this in mind, I imagine that Olmstead will be looking to develop the younger players as much as possible and set up really good teams in 2021 and 2022. Actually, it's now starting to look like Gneiting picked the best possible time to go on a mission, as she's only really missing a rebuilding/developing year. You may be right. |
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Post by reaper on Jan 10, 2020 22:36:50 GMT -5
Looks like Maddi is not committed to a school and is looking for one now. Possibly visiting Utah.
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Post by azvb on Jan 11, 2020 13:43:43 GMT -5
Looks like Maddi is not committed to a school and is looking for one now. Possibly visiting Utah. Saw a picture from the banquet last night. She wasn’t in it. Pure speculation, but I wonder if she hoped to get HG scholarship and didn’t. Maybe if her passing had improved? She’s not going to get much playing time at Utah, IMO. Maybe she would redshirt? |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 11, 2020 13:50:20 GMT -5
Looks like Maddi is not committed to a school and is looking for one now. Possibly visiting Utah. Saw a picture from the banquet last night. She wasn’t in it. Pure speculation, but I wonder if she hoped to get HG scholarship and didn’t. Maybe if her passing had improved? She’s not going to get much playing time at Utah, IMO. Maybe she would redshirt? Utah doesn't make much sense to me. She would very likely get less playing time there than she would at BYU, possibly a lot less. |
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Post by azvb on Jan 11, 2020 13:54:41 GMT -5
Saw a picture from the banquet last night. She wasn’t in it. Pure speculation, but I wonder if she hoped to get HG scholarship and didn’t. Maybe if her passing had improved? She’s not going to get much playing time at Utah, IMO. Maybe she would redshirt? Utah doesn't make much sense to me. She would very likely get less playing time there than she would at BYU. Yes, and 99.9% sure Beth wouldn’t give her a acholarship. Weber, UVU, Utah State would love to have her, and if available, give her a schollie. |
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Post by reaper on Jan 11, 2020 13:56:03 GMT -5
Saw a picture from the banquet last night. She wasn’t in it. Pure speculation, but I wonder if she hoped to get HG scholarship and didn’t. Maybe if her passing had improved? She’s not going to get much playing time at Utah, IMO. Maybe she would redshirt? Utah doesn't make much sense to me. She would very likely get less playing time there than she would at BYU, possibly a lot less. It could be that she really didn't get along with Coach HO. Also might be a reason Heather Gneiting went on a mission. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 11, 2020 14:08:12 GMT -5
Utah doesn't make much sense to me. She would very likely get less playing time there than she would at BYU. Yes, and 99.9% sure Beth wouldn’t give her a acholarship. Weber, UVU, Utah State would love to have her, and if available, give her a schollie. Yeah, agree 100%. UVU still makes the most sense to me, given how culturally similar Orem is to Provo and how close it is to her family in Highland. |
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Post by azvb on Jan 11, 2020 14:59:39 GMT -5
Utah doesn't make much sense to me. She would very likely get less playing time there than she would at BYU, possibly a lot less. It could be that she really didn't get along with Coach HO. Also might be a reason Heather Gneiting went on a mission. I really have no idea, but this seems unlikely. More likely, IMO, she felt like she deserved HG’s scholarship. I can see her point-she has contributed a lot the past 2 years. I think HO would have done everything to keep her IF she had proved to be a great passer. I’m guessing she went in and HO told her we anticipate others playing ahead of you. Makes me sad, cuz I always pull for the undersized! The Layton (or is it Dayton) that played back row occasionally is listed as an OH. Maybe she can play 6 rotations? |
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Post by pelagius on Jan 11, 2020 17:06:42 GMT -5
The Layton (or is it Dayton) that played back row occasionally is listed as an OH. Maybe she can play 6 rotations? It will be interesting to see how well both Dayton and Anderson play this spring. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 11, 2020 17:48:24 GMT -5
It could be that she really didn't get along with Coach HO. Also might be a reason Heather Gneiting went on a mission. I really have no idea, but this seems unlikely. More likely, IMO, she felt like she deserved HG’s scholarship. I can see her point-she has contributed a lot the past 2 years. I think HO would have done everything to keep her IF she had proved to be a great passer. I’m guessing she went in and HO told her we anticipate others playing ahead of you. Makes me sad, cuz I always pull for the undersized! The Layton (or is it Dayton) that played back row occasionally is listed as an OH. Maybe she can play 6 rotations? I'm skeptical that it had anything to do with scholarships. I think it's just about playing time and role. I think Robinson and Olmstead probably had an honest discussion about her future with the team, and Olmstead indicated that Robinson just hadn't progressed enough to be assured a starting spot. If this is the case, it is completely understandable if she wanted to go somewhere else where she would probably be the best player. And she'll always have the 2018 season, in which she was a fairly significant contributor on a Final Four team that was ranked No. 1 most of the year. I wish her the best.
At any rate, there were three freshman outside hitters on the team last year, which are Abbey Dayton, Erin Anderson and Morgan Johnson. Dayton played last year exclusively in a defensive role (she had zero kills), and both Anderson and Johnson redshirted. They both seem to be pretty highly regarded recruits (Anderson was in the PrepVolleyball top 100, and Johnson's mother is a former All-American volleyball player at BYU). Also, depending on how incoming opposite Makayla Tolman does (assuming she doesn't redshirt, which she very well might), Olmstead may be able to get creative and use both her and Grimmer. The more I look at this, the more I think BYU is going to be just fine. The roster is young but talented. I think by 2021, they'll be really good.
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Post by azvb on Jan 11, 2020 20:45:38 GMT -5
I’m sure Madi had high hopes - RJP gone and McKenna coming off ACL surgery. I will follow her at her new school. She really hits hard.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jan 13, 2020 20:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by mintonetteman on Jan 15, 2020 12:51:34 GMT -5
Friends in Idaho are telling me that Tolman is already on campus. Robinson is a big loss...but honestly, I think we needed a reset at the pin positions. Hoping/praying for an Erin Anderson awakening. Grimmer was interesting this year (and I am a big fan). Dynamic swing and nice offensive weapon, but a clear liability with the block--as evidence by the way Olmstead used her (or did not use her) against left side dominant teams. Given Tolman's length, her strengths appear to be Grimmer's weanknesses. I like having both on the RS. I think Dixon's time at RS is done.
I expect her to by the OH1 (but front row only). Dodson is a non BYU traditional MB--not as big as we are used to but very quick and athletic.
Still worried about a six rotational pin...can that be Grimmer? Libero/DS. Who knows. I honestly thought there was a chance that they would move Robinson to libero. Not easy to bring in a freshman libero (just ask Oregon or Nebraska this year)--especially into a program that has a very precise way they want things done. Just glad we have a bunch of them--Allen, Bower, Wee and Whitney.
One big plus, is that I think this is the year the team does a summer foreign trip (China, Brasil, etc)...this could be huge for getting some much needed reps for what will be a very young and inexperienced team.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 15, 2020 13:10:12 GMT -5
Friends in Idaho are telling me that Tolman is already on campus. Robinson is a big loss...but honestly, I think we needed a reset at the pin positions. Hoping/praying for an Erin Anderson awakening. Grimmer was interesting this year (and I am a big fan). Dynamic swing and nice offensive weapon, but a clear liability with the block--as evidence by the way Olmstead used her (or did not use her) against left side dominant teams. Given Tolman's length, her strengths appear to be Grimmer's weanknesses. I like having both on the RS. I think Dixon's time at RS is done. I expect her to by the OH1 (but front row only). Dodson is a non BYU traditional MB--not as big as we are used to but very quick and athletic. Still worried about a six rotational pin...can that be Grimmer? Libero/DS. Who knows. I honestly thought there was a chance that they would move Robinson to libero. Not easy to bring in a freshman libero (just ask Oregon or Nebraska this year)--especially into a program that has a very precise way they want things done. Just glad we have a bunch of them--Allen, Bower, Wee and Whitney. One big plus, is that I think this is the year the team does a summer foreign trip (China, Brasil, etc)...this could be huge for getting some much needed reps for what will be a very young and inexperienced team. Good analysis. That's interesting that Tolman is already there. If that's the case, she may be the one who got Robinson's scholarship (since she dropped all her classes, I was curious how Olmstead would use the extra semester). And yeah, I'd rather develop the young players from last year's class and the incoming one, as I think Robinson was a sunk cost. I also appreciate the insight on Grimmer and Tolman. I've been wondering if Olmstead would find a way to use both of them. Hopefully, she can. Overall, with Robinson's transfer, Gneiting going on a mission, and the overall youth of the team, I think that Olmstead will be looking to develop the young players (including figuring out the libero spot) as much as possible so that the team will be really good in 2021 and 2022. |
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