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Post by azvb on Jun 26, 2020 11:12:40 GMT -5
Predictions on the lineup? OH1: Taylen Ballard-Nixon OH2: Erin Anderson/Morgan Johnson MB1: Kennedy Eschenberg MB2: Leilani Dodson/Allie Hakes OPP: Kate Grimmer/Makayla Tolman S: Whitney Bower L: Madi Allen DS: Grace Wee/Morgan Bower The lineup this season is very fluid, as I'm only confident about Ballard-Nixon, Eschenberg, and Whitney Bower's spots. There will probably be competition at the OH2 (or maybe even OH1 by the end of the season), MB2, and OPP spots, as well as in the back row. Are Dodson and Hakes better than the senior blond MB (can’t remember her name) that’s been riding the pines? |
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Jun 26, 2020 11:31:35 GMT -5
OH1: Taylen Ballard-Nixon OH2: Erin Anderson/Morgan Johnson MB1: Kennedy Eschenberg MB2: Leilani Dodson/Allie Hakes OPP: Kate Grimmer/Makayla Tolman S: Whitney Bower L: Madi Allen DS: Grace Wee/Morgan Bower The lineup this season is very fluid, as I'm only confident about Ballard-Nixon, Eschenberg, and Whitney Bower's spots. There will probably be competition at the OH2 (or maybe even OH1 by the end of the season), MB2, and OPP spots, as well as in the back row. Are Dodson and Hakes better than the senior blond MB (can’t remember her name) that’s been riding the pines? Dodson looks like she can be something really special. I would hope so |
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 26, 2020 13:53:17 GMT -5
OH1: Taylen Ballard-Nixon OH2: Erin Anderson/Morgan Johnson MB1: Kennedy Eschenberg MB2: Leilani Dodson/Allie Hakes OPP: Kate Grimmer/Makayla Tolman S: Whitney Bower L: Madi Allen DS: Grace Wee/Morgan Bower The lineup this season is very fluid, as I'm only confident about Ballard-Nixon, Eschenberg, and Whitney Bower's spots. There will probably be competition at the OH2 (or maybe even OH1 by the end of the season), MB2, and OPP spots, as well as in the back row. Are Dodson and Hakes better than the senior blond MB (can’t remember her name) that’s been riding the pines? I think you're talking about Whitney Llarenas. I suppose she could be in the mix too. Hard to really say, since she's gotten almost no playing time behind Gneiting and Eschenberg. Dodson was the highest-ranked recruit of the three, No. 33 in her class, so I'd lean toward her getting the spot. |
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Aug 6, 2020 10:16:57 GMT -5
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 1:12:06 GMT -5
I am more impressed that not only are there 7! of them (this is the 21st century, that is just a lot of kids), but all of them are apparently good volleyball players and will end up at BYU. The calling is strong in that family!... individualism, not so much. Or that the family is that much money lol. I mean I’m sure they aren’t paying full price for each kid but still. 7 kids add up when it comes to club |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 1:14:12 GMT -5
Robinson is gone for sure. She dropped all her classes. Then she better be in school somewhere or she could be ineligible. |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 1:15:59 GMT -5
Robinson is gone for sure. She dropped all her classes. Then she better be in school somewhere or she could be ineligible. |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 1:17:27 GMT -5
She is not. She is serving a mission in the Seattle area until the summer of 2021. Well depending on the coronavirus situation in Wash, that may not happen? Though it may be better for her to sit out a year since they're not going to be as dangerous as they were this fall. |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 1:43:37 GMT -5
Not sold on Eden Bower's athletic ability and injury history. I am concerned about the talent evaluation with the current coaching staff and think that the Bower connection is going to lead BYU into more roster spots that don't see the floor or perform well if they do. Olmstead is certainly drinking the Koolaid that the Bower mom is selling. It gives the BYU PR dept a lot of source writing material and the BYUtv announcers things to talk about but the Bower club teams weren't that good. IMO the best of the first 3 Bower girls will be Whitney, but despite the hoopla that surrounded her coming out of HS early, she just isn't a top flight D-1 setter. Her serving is top flight though. But the second time a team faces her they got smarter about how to serve receive a lefty ..... which is why her aces went down dramatically the second time through league. She doesn't have the jumping ability to block good OH's. She is only 5'7" not 5'9" and she has big form issues. I don't know where she came up with doing the splits while setting? If she wants to take height off the ball then don't push it as hard or don't jump set as high. But don't do the splits in the air. The setting accuracy is very average with her. Her defense is pretty good but despite an entire season of starting at setter the BYU team with 4 All-Americans got worse as the season wore on. Bowers connections with her middles was spotty and if Miller wasn't on the team the OH's were all over the board on accuracy. I think it is contact point problems and which comes from having sets that aren't consistently placed in the hitter's zone.
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Post by silverchloride on Sept 7, 2020 1:52:47 GMT -5
Not sold on Eden Bower's athletic ability and injury history. I am concerned about the talent evaluation with the current coaching staff and think that the Bower connection is going to lead BYU into more roster spots that don't see the floor or perform well if they do. What are your concerns related to the coaching staffs ability to evaluate talent, beyond the current never ending D1 dead period? |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 2:13:48 GMT -5
If you look at the Libero position the last year BYU recruited a JC transfer .... would you ever do that unless you were sure that she would play? In addition, M Bower and Wee were both recruited and neither one of them could even get on the floor. H Olmstead resorted to using Robinson and 2 other OH's who weren't good enough to play front row, to man the back row and they were average to below average at best. What does that tell us about the DS's on the team? Just a perplexing situation. Now they have 4 girls on the team and none of them have experience on the back row and that is why they were recruited to begin with. Hopefully, Maddie will come in and do well, but freshman have a difficult time playing top line defense as the starting libero ..... throughout the NCAA's. Then you have the setting position. 2 huge misses in that spot by H Olmstead. I think she is just looking at the hands of potential setters and forgetting that they have to be excellent athletes like Haddock was/is! Lacy wasn't recruited by Heather ... so we can't give credit for that one to her. Now BYU is stuck in the setting position. They can't have just W Bower as the only setter when she is a senior can they? If she gets hurt or sick can Taylor run a 5-1? I don't think she can and have BYU win against decent teams. The OH's are another talent evaluation problem. I am beginning to think it is good think to have Covid cancel the season for BYU and allow them to get another recruiting class in the barn because I don't think they will win the WCC or make the NCAA tourney this season. Not even close IMO.
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 2:20:28 GMT -5
Or that the family is that much money lol. I mean I’m sure they aren’t paying full price for each kid but still. 7 kids add up when it comes to club Each of the kids are free to the Bower family. The club covers the cost of coaches, tourney's and hotel rooms. It is just a huge time commitment but the mom always has her kids on her team so that they travel together. Eden and Alex were both on the 17 team. Eden is 2022 but is way older than all other 2022 girls. She should be a senior based on age and Alex should be 2 grades ahead of where she is at in the 2024 class. She would have had to play 16's this year even though she was an 8th grader if you can believe it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2020 2:38:15 GMT -5
Madi Allen will be the libero. I expect her to do well.
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 2:38:21 GMT -5
She has a weird arm swing. Elbow seems low. But that can be fixed. Her knee's can't! I think this is a disaster for BYU. Eden has knee problems that kept her out of vb for an entire year. If you watch her play in person she has no lateral movement and she can't get to where she needs to be to block. They say she touches 10'5" but I would have to see it to believe it. Anyway, BYU can't have her serve because she can't pass effectively. That is what BYU doesn't need. There are a lot of questions in the vb club world in Utah about the criteria that BYU uses to recruit. For example, BYU offered a girl who really wanted to attend, a walk on spot. She is one of the top OH's in the country. Oregon, Washington, USC and on and on wanted her. She played for Club V and she turned BYU down because they didn't have a scholly for her. Who did? Wisconsin! I have heard first hand accounts from club coaches who are flabbergasted that E Bower was recruited over that Jardine girl (not sure what HS she goes to). Heather is starting to get a reputation for not being able to correctly gauge talent. Girls who want to go to BYU are starting to wonder if the program is sliding downhill pretty quickly. |
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Post by WCvb1 on Sept 7, 2020 2:44:15 GMT -5
Madi Allen will be the libero. I expect her to do well. We will see as good teams play BYU. Her club team was excellent, but Maddie didn't always start for that team at Libero. Even if Maddie gets the starting Lib job, I have serious doubts about the DS's on this team and hope that Olmstead doesn't have to resort to 2nd string or 3rd string OH's to come play back row like last year. San Diego will pounce on BYU this coming season if there isn't solid defense and passing. Robinson being gone isn't a big loss because she wasn't a legit goto OH against good teams. Her back row play was also something of a liability. |
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