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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 18:36:13 GMT -5
not sure what your point is exactly tbh That Karakurt is not the best OH in Turkey, even though she has the best index rating. Also, that Vakif doesn’t go to her in OOS. oh okay. I agree with you. She's not even the best on her team
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 18:36:26 GMT -5
I would still pick KYK over Ebrar, for now. Ask me again after 2021 and that might change. And again — KYK was fantastic in her Olympic Qualifiers. In Turkey’s, Karakurt was benched in the Germany opening loss and didn’t play at all in the Final (which Turkey won 3-0) KYK played in only seven matches in the Turkish league Passing: 48% positive, 20% excellent Attacking: 3.24 k/s, 44% kill percent, .315 efficiency Not too bad.
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Post by ace35 on May 10, 2020 19:10:22 GMT -5
And again — KYK was fantastic in her Olympic Qualifiers. In Turkey’s, Karakurt was benched in the Germany opening loss and didn’t play at all in the Final (which Turkey won 3-0) KYK played in only seven matches in the Turkish league Passing: 48% positive, 20% excellent Attacking: 3.24 k/s, 44% kill percent, .315 efficiency Not too bad. Very, very bad indeed, especially for her standards. We are talking about a player who was payed 1 million $ + per season, and who had less than 12 points per match during the entire season (not counting Super Cup). The fact she played so few matches only aggravates the sense of money squandered, but even if she had played the whole season with that kind of form, it would have been one of the worst cases of money squandered in the last decade of pro club volleyball. In the only 3 matches against high-quality opponent that she played (again, without Super Cup): 1)5 set thriller in the first half of season against Fener, she scored 12 points playing in all 5 sets. Boskovic scored 36. 2)straight-set drubbing against Vakif, scored 8 points. Boskovic 18. 3)5 set thriller against Fener in Champions League, scored 9 points playing in all 5 sets. Boskovic 20 and Natalia 26. That's the reality behind your "not too bad" statistics.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 19:13:44 GMT -5
KYK played in only seven matches in the Turkish league Passing: 48% positive, 20% excellent Attacking: 3.24 k/s, 44% kill percent, .315 efficiency Not too bad. Very, very bad indeed, especially for her standards. We are talking about a player who was payed 1 million $ + per season, and who had less than 12 points per match during the entire season (not counting Super Cup). The fact she played so few matches only aggravates the sense of money squandered, but even if she had played the whole season with that kind of form, it would have been one of the worst cases of money squandered in the last decade of pro club volleyball. In the only 3 matches against high-quality opponent that she played (again, without Super Cup): 1)5 set thriller in the first half of season against Fener, she scored 12 points playing in all 5 sets. Boskovic scored 36. 2)straight-set drubbing against Vakif, scored 8 points. Boskovic 18. 3)5 set thriller against Fener in Champions League, scored 9 points playing in all 5 sets. Boskovic 20 and Natalia 26. That's the reality behind your "not too bad" statistics. there's no need to be so defensive lmao it's "not too bad" cause she was not 100% healthy at any point during the season.
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Post by ace35 on May 10, 2020 19:21:19 GMT -5
First, that's not true, but even if it is, it would only paint an even more grim future for Kim than the one I am presenting. A player who can be "not 100% healthy" during the entire season, even when playing without any observable handicap or discomfort would mean that player has chronic injury issues, and would mean she will never be at anywhere near her peak ever again.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 19:32:14 GMT -5
Olympic Qualifiers
KYK: 77 total points (number one), 46.15 success percent, .300 efficiency, .42 b/s, .50 ace/set, 2.17 digs/set, 28.85% reception efficiency (number two) 37 points vs Canada, 25 vs Russia, 15 vs Mexico.
Asian Qualifiers 22 points in the final vs Thailand, 56.4 reception efficiency, 41.86 success percent.
I think KYK will be just fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 19:47:10 GMT -5
Im just going to add im not trying to say KYK is going to be one of the best outsides post Tokyo. Just she is in present day
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Post by stanfordvb on May 10, 2020 21:28:00 GMT -5
I assume KYK is an abbreviation... I’m only familiar with American pros and some of the foreign phenoms, what is KYK real name lol
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2020 21:33:00 GMT -5
I assume KYK is an abbreviation... I’m only familiar with American pros and some of the foreign phenoms, what is KYK real name lol Kim Yeon-Koung.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 10, 2020 21:34:09 GMT -5
I assume KYK is an abbreviation... I’m only familiar with American pros and some of the foreign phenoms, what is KYK real name lol Only Olympic MVP.. no big deal.
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Post by stanfordvb on May 10, 2020 21:47:45 GMT -5
I assume KYK is an abbreviation... I’m only familiar with American pros and some of the foreign phenoms, what is KYK real name lol Only Olympic MVP.. no big deal. OH haha ok ik who that is, I couldn’t put together the abbreviation but I know who you’re talking ab now lol
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on May 11, 2020 16:41:01 GMT -5
If Lee Jae Yong continues to improve, KYK might not have to take on as big of a load as everyone thinks she does. Of course, the go-to for Korea will always be KYK, but Lee Jae Yong has improved a lot over the last couple of years. This pandemic obviously is not the most ideal situation, but for KYK it might be a blessing in disguise so she can have time to completely recover from her abdominal injury before she competes at her last Olympics.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2020 22:57:24 GMT -5
If Lee Jae Yong continues to improve, KYK might not have to take on as big of a load as everyone thinks she does. Of course, the go-to for Korea will always be KYK, but Lee Jae Yong has improved a lot over the last couple of years. This pandemic obviously is not the most ideal situation, but for KYK it might be a blessing in disguise so she can have time to completely recover from her abdominal injury before she competes at her last Olympics. Lavarini has transformed that team. I mean they almost upset Russia at the IOQT ON Russian soil. Granted Russia isn't the powerhouse it once was but Korea still has looked very impressive.
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Post by wishinwestcoastvb on Jun 29, 2020 8:34:05 GMT -5
Got bored and rewatched some 2016 Olympic matches. Loved Foluke hitting the slide and hope to see that again soon (I know that’s for a different thread)
But dang Kayla was solid for us. Passing as a unit looks more confident and in system a lot more. I just don’t see JWO or Courtney being able to anchor a back row at the level. Another thing that is so neat about Kayla is her attitude/demeanor on the court. She has such a bad a$$ mentality, which is so lacking in JWO and Courtney. I hope Hentz and her confidence transition go international play. That’s at least one thing she can bring that others aren’t offering. I think we would see confidence out of White and Curry also. I really think we need someone confident back there no matter it is Robinson, JWO, Courtney, Hentz, or any one else
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Post by vbsam16 on Jun 29, 2020 8:41:16 GMT -5
Got bored and rewatched some 2016 Olympic matches. Loved Foluke hitting the slide and hope to see that again soon (I know that’s for a different thread) But dang Kayla was solid for us. Passing as a unit looks more confident and in system a lot more. I just don’t see JWO or Courtney being able to anchor a back row at the level. Another thing that is so neat about Kayla is her attitude/demeanor on the court. She has such a bad a$$ mentality, which is so lacking in JWO and Courtney. I hope Hentz and her confidence transition go international play. That’s at least one thing she can bring that others aren’t offering. I think we would see confidence out of White and Curry also. I really think we need someone confident back there no matter it is Robinson, JWO, Courtney, Hentz, or any one else I know a lot of people don’t love White’s enthusiasm, but I personally think she always gets her team fired up and the national team could really use a libero like that. Maybe she’ll be in the running for 2024.
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