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Post by bbg95 on Aug 31, 2024 21:14:22 GMT -5
So Survivor 47 premieres on September 18. Meanwhile, the Challenge (featuring Michele) is having a great season so far in its 40th season. Tonight's episode may have been the best flagship episode since War of the Worlds 2 (some of the spin-offs have had great episodes too). Oh! I'm watching this season. I haven't been able to watch the 3rd ep yet. I also watched All Stars 4, and then I watched Vendettas since I read that's where Leroy and Kam met and I liked them on All Stars 4. I haven't seen Vendettas yet. I mostly know them from War of the Worlds 1 and 2. I have mixed feelings about their relationship, as I don't think Kam treated Leroy well at all on either season. But he seems happy, so I guess that's all that matters. All Stars 4 was pretty good, though the final was underwhelming. I am concerned about these "karma points." They seem similar to the stars and also fire tokens. I hope they don't affect the final. Anyway, this episode revealed the starting format for the season. I won't spoil any results, but the way it works is that the elimination winners will pick two targets from each era. Just to use examples, let's say the targets are CT and Rachel from Era 1, Bananas and Cara from Era 2, Tori and Jordan from Era 3 and Theo and Michele from Era 4. The targets from the team that loses the daily (let's say CT and Rachel) automatically go into elimination. The targets from the winners of the daily (let's say Bananas and Cara) are safe and decide which of the other two pairs of targets go into elimination. Oh, and the guy that wins the elimination picks all the girls that are targets, and the girl that wins the elimination picks all the guys that are targets. Other than the karma points, I think this format is great. It will be very hard for anyone to stay out of elimination all season with the way this system is set up.
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Post by storyteller on Aug 31, 2024 22:22:02 GMT -5
Oh! I'm watching this season. I haven't been able to watch the 3rd ep yet. I also watched All Stars 4, and then I watched Vendettas since I read that's where Leroy and Kam met and I liked them on All Stars 4. I haven't seen Vendettas yet. I mostly know them from War of the Worlds 1 and 2. I have mixed feelings about their relationship, as I don't think Kam treated Leroy well at all on either season. But he seems happy, so I guess that's all that matters. All Stars 4 was pretty good, though the final was underwhelming. I am concerned about these "karma points." They seem similar to the stars and also fire tokens. I hope they don't affect the final. Anyway, this episode revealed the starting format for the season. I won't spoil any results, but the way it works is that the elimination winners will pick two targets from each era. Just to use examples, let's say the targets are CT and Rachel from Era 1, Bananas and Cara from Era 2, Tori and Jordan from Era 3 and Theo and Michele from Era 4. The targets from the team that loses the daily (let's say CT and Rachel) automatically go into elimination. The targets from the winners of the daily (let's say Bananas and Cara) are safe and decide which of the other two pairs of targets go into elimination. Oh, and the guy that wins the elimination picks all the girls that are targets, and the girl that wins the elimination picks all the guys that are targets. Other than the karma points, I think this format is great. It will be very hard for anyone to stay out of elimination all season with the way this system is set up. Yeah, the All Stars 4 final was underwhelming. It felt so small scale, and I didn't like how the stars worked at the end.
The S40 format sounds cool. I hope I can keep up with the season. It's harder when episodes aren't immediately going to Paramount+
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Post by storyteller on Sept 15, 2024 22:46:52 GMT -5
So I have never watched Australian Survivor but um.......I think I have to now
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Post by vbman100 on Sept 16, 2024 9:08:24 GMT -5
How can I watch the Challenge or Survivor Australia? I have a bunch of streaming services, not sure I have seen these listed, but you know, algorithms and such. Parvati is my favorite all-time, so if she's in something, I'm usually watching. My wife doesn't like that, but oh well.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 16, 2024 12:18:39 GMT -5
So I have never watched Australian Survivor but um.......I think I have to now Yeah, I saw that they managed to get Cirie, Tony and Parvati for this season. The only one I watched was the Blood v. Water season with Sandra. It was good when she was there, as she was carrying the show from an entertainment standpoint. But once she went home, it was a lot worse. I think basically everything about US Survivor is better than Australian Survivor, but there are plenty of people who feel otherwise. Just be prepared--it airs three times a week for like 90 minutes each, so it's closer to Big Brother than Survivor in terms of air time. It also makes the new era twists of US survivor look tame by comparison. Also be prepared for non-elimination episodes like The Amazing Race, which just feels antithetical to Survivor for me. Like Sandra pulled off a great blindside to take control of her starting tribe, but it turned out that the person voted out just got to join the other tribe. They couldn't have saved that for Sandra? Ugh.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 16, 2024 12:23:50 GMT -5
How can I watch the Challenge or Survivor Australia? I have a bunch of streaming services, not sure I have seen these listed, but you know, algorithms and such. Parvati is my favorite all-time, so if she's in something, I'm usually watching. My wife doesn't like that, but oh well. Australian Survivor is hard to find. Most of The Challenge seasons are on Paramount Plus, but they don't have all of them.
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Post by storyteller on Sept 16, 2024 13:36:47 GMT -5
So I have never watched Australian Survivor but um.......I think I have to now Yeah, I saw that they managed to get Cirie, Tony and Parvati for this season. The only one I watched was the Blood v. Water season with Sandra. It was good when she was there, as she was carrying the show from an entertainment standpoint. But once she went home, it was a lot worse. I think basically everything about US Survivor is better than Australian Survivor, but there are plenty of people who feel otherwise. Just be prepared--it airs three times a week for like 90 minutes each, so it's closer to Big Brother than Survivor in terms of air time. It also makes the new era twists of US survivor look tame by comparison. Also be prepared for non-elimination episodes like The Amazing Race, which just feels antithetical to Survivor for me. Like Sandra pulled off a great blindside to take control of her starting tribe, but it turned out that the person voted out just got to join the other tribe. They couldn't have saved that for Sandra? Ugh. 3 shows a week?! I'm gonna have to rethink my previous statement. ðŸ«
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 16, 2024 13:45:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I saw that they managed to get Cirie, Tony and Parvati for this season. The only one I watched was the Blood v. Water season with Sandra. It was good when she was there, as she was carrying the show from an entertainment standpoint. But once she went home, it was a lot worse. I think basically everything about US Survivor is better than Australian Survivor, but there are plenty of people who feel otherwise. Just be prepared--it airs three times a week for like 90 minutes each, so it's closer to Big Brother than Survivor in terms of air time. It also makes the new era twists of US survivor look tame by comparison. Also be prepared for non-elimination episodes like The Amazing Race, which just feels antithetical to Survivor for me. Like Sandra pulled off a great blindside to take control of her starting tribe, but it turned out that the person voted out just got to join the other tribe. They couldn't have saved that for Sandra? Ugh. 3 shows a week?! I'm gonna have to rethink my previous statement. 🫠Yeah, so Sandra's season had 24 episodes. And like I said, the episodes themselves are longer. I think it may go to "only" two later in the season.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 18, 2024 21:50:42 GMT -5
The Survivor 47 premiere was okay. Definitely no Q, Venus or Jelinsky on this cast, so the two hours kind of dragged. Really embarrassing for Jon that his tribe decided that he was more of a liability in challenges than the guy who collapsed during the first immunity challenge and is a massive social liability.
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Post by UofIlliniVBFan on Sept 19, 2024 17:47:40 GMT -5
Andy is a quitter and his collapse was fake. Casting has intentionally turned Survivor into a social farce. I don't remember a worse opening season episode.
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Post by storyteller on Sept 19, 2024 23:52:48 GMT -5
Andy should have never been cast on the show. From what we saw in the episode, it doesn't seem like a good place for his mental health and production should be taking that into consideration as much as they would physical health. I really didn't like his reaction to the early morning conversation with Rachel where he blamed her not comforting him the way he wanted for putting him in a bad mood. It was so toxic—and then the way they teased him being a "toxic ex-boyfriend" in the previews as some quirky "what type of wacky thing will Andy do next?" was such a turn off. It's Bhanu again, but worse.
I hope Andy has a good support system. Both on the island, but also now that the show is airing because I can't imagine the discourse surrounding that episode is going to be pleasant.
Also, they need to cut it with this community theme. Survivor isn't this beautiful, let's all work together show. They're literally casting someone out of their "community" each week!
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 20, 2024 0:37:03 GMT -5
Andy should have never been cast on the show. From what we saw in the episode, it doesn't seem like a good place for his mental health and production should be taking that into consideration as much as they would physical health. I really didn't like his reaction to the early morning conversation with Rachel where he blamed her not comforting him the way he wanted for putting him in a bad mood. It was so toxic—and then the way they teased him being a "toxic ex-boyfriend" in the previews as some quirky "what type of wacky thing will Andy do next?" was such a turn off. It's Bhanu again, but worse. I hope Andy has a good support system. Both on the island, but also now that the show is airing because I can't imagine the discourse surrounding that episode is going to be pleasant. Also, they need to cut it with this community theme. Survivor isn't this beautiful, let's all work together show. They're literally casting someone out of their "community" each week! Mostly agree. I don't think Andy is quite at Bhanu levels yet (he made three episodes of the otherwise very good Survivor 46 virtually unwatchable), but there's still time. Definitely agree with the "community" nonsense. It reminds me of the older seasons when Jeff would always say in the introductory voice over that the players will have to "build a new society and learn to survive" or something ridiculous along those lines. I rolled my eyes every single time.
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 20, 2024 0:41:09 GMT -5
Elsewhere, Michele has yet to be targeted on The Challenge Season 40, though it seems like the format will demand that everyone be a target at least once. Right now, all four eras seem to have the mentality that if it's your time to step up, then you do it. And many players have raised their hand when it was time to do so. If you don't step up, and especially if you said that you would and then back out, then your team loses respect for you. I think Michele may actually be the only player in the game that has yet to be a target on the entire cast. I suspect that will change pretty soon due to the aforementioned mentality.
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Post by storyteller on Sept 20, 2024 10:45:16 GMT -5
Elsewhere, Michele has yet to be targeted on The Challenge Season 40, though it seems like the format will demand that everyone be a target at least once. Right now, all four eras seem to have the mentality that if it's your time to step up, then you do it. And many players have raised their hand when it was time to do so. If you don't step up, and especially if you said that you would and then back out, then your team loses respect for you. I think Michele may actually be the only player in the game that has yet to be a target on the entire cast. I suspect that will change pretty soon due to the aforementioned mentality. This is so impressive. I don't have all the backstory for the players since I haven't watched recent seasons. But it seemed like Michele had some people who really didn't like her (and based on Twitter she always seems to be in the middle of the drama in her seasons). I thought she'd be targeted early. Her social game is unmatched.
Side note: I forgot Jonna did The Challenge! I watched her on Endurance back on the day lol
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Post by bbg95 on Sept 20, 2024 11:11:11 GMT -5
Elsewhere, Michele has yet to be targeted on The Challenge Season 40, though it seems like the format will demand that everyone be a target at least once. Right now, all four eras seem to have the mentality that if it's your time to step up, then you do it. And many players have raised their hand when it was time to do so. If you don't step up, and especially if you said that you would and then back out, then your team loses respect for you. I think Michele may actually be the only player in the game that has yet to be a target on the entire cast. I suspect that will change pretty soon due to the aforementioned mentality. This is so impressive. I don't have all the backstory for the players since I haven't watched recent seasons. But it seemed like Michele had some people who really didn't like her (and based on Twitter she always seems to be in the middle of the drama in her seasons). I thought she'd be targeted early. Her social game is unmatched.
Side note: I forgot Jonna did The Challenge! I watched her on Endurance back on the day lol Yeah, Michele struggled in her earlier seasons, but that's largely the function of rookies getting targeted early and often on most seasons. On Ride or Dies, she had Jay (from Millennials v. Gen X) as her partner, and he made boneheaded mistakes that got both of them targeted by Jordan, who is just about the worst possible enemy to have. On USA 2, Michele had finally integrated herself with the vets and had good relationships with the Survivor players too. I think she got caught making too many promises, but she played really well otherwise. On Season 39, she controlled the house for the whole game but got purged right before the final. At this point, I'd say her only true enemy is Laurel, who is perhaps my least favorite player in Challenge history. Laurel really hasn't been in a position to target Michele, and I don't think anyone else really wants to. I just think she'll have to step up eventually with the way the season is going.
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