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Post by tallnclumsy on Jul 21, 2020 12:02:31 GMT -5
I don't know if it's just our school, but they just told us the girls have to skip practices for 72 hours after they return from travel.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2020 12:12:11 GMT -5
what have any states/schools said protocol will be when covid positive is ID'd? I haven't seen this addressed anywhere, actually for any level. Not really sure what purpose issuing start dates, etc., serves if there is no plan when positive cases arise.
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Post by Not Me on Jul 21, 2020 17:05:41 GMT -5
what have any states/schools said protocol will be when covid positive is ID'd? I haven't seen this addressed anywhere, actually for any level. Not really sure what purpose issuing start dates, etc., serves if there is no plan when positive cases arise. Have you looked? Every school in PA had to have a plan in place before they could start open gyms/summer training. I got started late because my school is slow with things like that. I know that states around here have all issued guidance to the school districts. But it is up to each school district to have their own, specific plan in place
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Post by crando on Jul 21, 2020 17:54:19 GMT -5
The problem is, no one wants to decide what the policy is. Someone will sue you if the school quarantines someone (or the whole team) for being at practice with someone who got sick, and then their kid (or the whole team) has to miss some practices/matches. And someone else will sue you if the school DOESN'T quarantine everyone, and then some other people on the team (or on their next opponent) end up getting sick.
And no one wants to appreciate the difficulty of finding a balance there, because they're positive that they're right and the other side is dumb. Until something happens to them, and then they switch sides, and then the people they used to think were right are now dumb... God save us all.
The medical people don't have enough information to know for sure who to quarantine and who not to, nor for how long -- being exposed doesn't mean you'll get sick. And instead of something like NFHS finding the best COVID experts in the country, and coming up with the smartest possible plan (which is still not great -- see paragraph #1), each individual school, or district, has to reach out to the not-best COVID experts who happen to be nearby, and make up their own plan, which will be less-smart.
So most HSes, most colleges, and probably the NFL too for that matter, don't really know what the solution is if someone tests positive, and was around the entire team at practice the two days before, shedding virus like crazy before they had symptoms. And forget about sports for a moment -- that applies to school attendance as well.
You can run sports if no one gets sick. You might be able to run sports if a few people get sick and you can isolate the right folks early enough, and you can figure out who the right folks are (we'll see how the NBA and NHL and MLB do). You can run a 4-day sporting event and then send everyone home because you don't have to worry about them needing to practice three times and play two more matches next week too. But with 10s of thousands of new cases every day, HS and college athletes will keep getting sick, then having practices and games the next day. And if you don't like 7-day (or more) quarantines for people who get sick -- and having forfeits or "no contests" or tons of make-up games at the end of the year -- then we're choosing from among a bunch of bad options.
Hey Not Me -- do you care to share a policy you've seen (your school's, or someone else's)?
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jul 21, 2020 19:23:15 GMT -5
The problem is, no one wants to decide what the policy is. Someone will sue you if the school quarantines someone (or the whole team) for being at practice with someone who got sick, and then their kid (or the whole team) has to miss some practices/matches. And someone else will sue you if the school DOESN'T quarantine everyone, and then some other people on the team (or on their next opponent) end up getting sick. And no one wants to appreciate the difficulty of finding a balance there, because they're positive that they're right and the other side is dumb. Until something happens to them, and then they switch sides, and then the people they used to think were right are now dumb... God save us all. The medical people don't have enough information to know for sure who to quarantine and who not to, nor for how long -- being exposed doesn't mean you'll get sick. And instead of something like NFHS finding the best COVID experts in the country, and coming up with the smartest possible plan (which is still not great -- see paragraph #1), each individual school, or district, has to reach out to the not-best COVID experts who happen to be nearby, and make up their own plan, which will be less-smart. So most HSes, most colleges, and probably the NFL too for that matter, don't really know what the solution is if someone tests positive, and was around the entire team at practice the two days before, shedding virus like crazy before they had symptoms. And forget about sports for a moment -- that applies to school attendance as well. You can run sports if no one gets sick. You might be able to run sports if a few people get sick and you can isolate the right folks early enough, and you can figure out who the right folks are (we'll see how the NBA and NHL and MLB do). You can run a 4-day sporting event and then send everyone home because you don't have to worry about them needing to practice three times and play two more matches next week too. But with 10s of thousands of new cases every day, HS and college athletes will keep getting sick, then having practices and games the next day. And if you don't like 7-day (or more) quarantines for people who get sick -- and having forfeits or "no contests" or tons of make-up games at the end of the year -- then we're choosing from among a bunch of bad options. Hey Not Me -- do you care to share a policy you've seen (your school's, or someone else's)? Truth
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Post by nakedcrayon on Jul 21, 2020 20:29:03 GMT -5
Texas just modified.
No tournaments this season.
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Post by silverchloride on Jul 22, 2020 0:08:22 GMT -5
Texas just modified. No tournaments this season. Is that for High School, or referring to Club tournaments. Thanks for the info =)
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Post by volleav on Jul 22, 2020 1:59:22 GMT -5
Texas just modified. No tournaments this season. Is that for High School, or referring to Club tournaments. Thanks for the info =) High school
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Post by rvdadvb on Jul 22, 2020 8:04:08 GMT -5
School administrators are having to play the role of health department official and contact tracer and it's going to be a disaster.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 8:27:35 GMT -5
what have any states/schools said protocol will be when covid positive is ID'd? I haven't seen this addressed anywhere, actually for any level. Not really sure what purpose issuing start dates, etc., serves if there is no plan when positive cases arise. Have you looked? Every school in PA had to have a plan in place before they could start open gyms/summer training. I got started late because my school is slow with things like that. I know that states around here have all issued guidance to the school districts. But it is up to each school district to have their own, specific plan in place I had, but probably not as thoroughly as possible. In Illinois, IHSA was managing return to play plan until 7.14 when they announced they would defer to IDPH and ISBE for guidance in order to provide a more consistent message. ISBE has some decent FAQ, but nothing directly related to sports. Regarding isolation: SELF-QUARANTINE 22. When must an individual self-quarantine? (Updated 6/25/2020) Individuals who have tested positive for COVID-19 or who are suspected of having COVID-19 infection should seek medical attention, self-isolate, and follow CDC guidelines for discontinuation of isolation. Individuals who have had close contact with an individual who has tested positive for COVID-19 or is suspected of having COVID-19 infection should isolate at home and monitor for symptoms for 14 days. Individuals who did not have close contact can return to school immediately after disinfection. 23. What is considered “close contact”? (Updated 6/25/2020) Close contact means the individual was within 6 feet of the individual who tested positive for COVID-19 or is suspected of having COVID-19 infection for more than 15 minutes.
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Post by volleynerdmw on Jul 22, 2020 9:56:10 GMT -5
If HS Ball gets moved to the spring many of the top players in the country are enrolling into college early. That would not be a fun decision.
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Post by volleav on Jul 22, 2020 10:05:40 GMT -5
If HS Ball gets moved to the spring many of the top players in the country are enrolling into college early. That would not be a fun decision. I think like with football, many will stay the course and enroll early. That's what I've heard from ones I know going early. And many will choose club over HS.
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Post by jammaster on Jul 22, 2020 10:30:14 GMT -5
If HS Ball gets moved to the spring many of the top players in the country are enrolling into college early. That would not be a fun decision. Enroll early into a broken NCAA season. I am not sure that makes sense. Why not have the broken year be prior to university?
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Post by volleav on Jul 22, 2020 10:41:19 GMT -5
If HS Ball gets moved to the spring many of the top players in the country are enrolling into college early. That would not be a fun decision. Enroll early into a broken NCAA season. I am not sure that makes sense. Why not have the broken year be prior to university? I think it depends on what the school is right? If the college is playing in the fall then it would make sense. If not, then it is a whole different discussion. I doubt people would go if off-season and spring training isn't happening. But if it is, then why wouldn't they?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2020 10:52:02 GMT -5
Enroll early into a broken NCAA season. I am not sure that makes sense. Why not have the broken year be prior to university? I think it depends on what the school is right? If the college is playing in the fall then it would make sense. If not, then it is a whole different discussion. I doubt people would go if off-season and spring training isn't happening. But if it is, then why wouldn't they? what in the last 5 months makes one think colleges will have firm handle on what next season is going to look like? why they wouldn't? best of my knowledge early enrollment is not covered by scholarships. and seeing that 5-8% of hs players play at any level in college, and what, 5% of college level players leave early, I think impact is negligible on overall hs/club game.
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