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Post by southbay11 on Jul 14, 2020 23:53:12 GMT -5
So building courts...got it. Explains the limit on teams and the lack of stream on Friday. 10 Matches per gender, 10 hour day minimum. To clear the venue halfway through and split the day up with less players on site would still have to have a full "cleaning and sterilizing" of the property to bring in an afternoon wave. Thus, allowing the AVP to meet county standards. Honestly, a little surprised this still goes on given the tightening of things in Cali as of yesterday. It’s outdoors. Outdoor restaurants are still open.
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Post by stevieofmb on Jul 15, 2020 11:56:27 GMT -5
If the AVP isn't going to stream the qualifier, let's hope they at least live score it. I don't remember any qualifier having live scoring.
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Post by wisco on Jul 15, 2020 13:24:25 GMT -5
Honestly if the AVP can find a way to put on professional event during pandemic but say they don't have capability to live stream qualifiers it's a joke. I want to state how grateful I am for them putting the event on. Love the AVP and travel to multiple events a year. But if any random AVP qualifier player can setup a phone and go live on FB zero reason why AVP can setup some phones/ipads for static camera view of each court. Waupaca and Pottstown do it with one camera most of the time and they have 1/10th resources of AVP. If they don't want to put out low quality product that is different reason, but the answer they have been giving on FB about too many people on site is a joke. Hook up a phone/laptop to a battery pack and hit stream is as easy and low maintenance as it gets. Otherwise you are telling me they can't have the cameras they use for amazon ready to go one day early.
Again no commentary or replays needed, just throw the die hard fans a bone and stream the qualifiers.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 15, 2020 13:37:01 GMT -5
Honestly if the AVP can find a way to put on professional event during pandemic but say they don't have capability to live stream qualifiers it's a joke. I want to state how grateful I am for them putting the event on. Love the AVP and travel to multiple events a year. But if any random AVP qualifier player can setup a phone and go live on FB zero reason why AVP can setup some phones/ipads for static camera view of each court. Waupaca and Pottstown do it with one camera most of the time and they have 1/10th resources of AVP. If they don't want to put out low quality product that is different reason, but the answer they have been giving on FB about too many people on site is a joke. Hook up a phone/laptop to a battery pack and hit stream is as easy and low maintenance as it gets. Otherwise you are telling me they can't have the cameras they use for amazon ready to go one day early. Again no commentary or replays needed, just throw the die hard fans a bone and stream the qualifiers. What would you pay to watch most of the play in matches?? $4.99 a tourney? 11.99? They'd have to get about 3-5K subscribers to pay for workers, and equipment. I don't think they are there yet.
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Post by donnyb on Jul 15, 2020 14:37:14 GMT -5
Anyone Facebook living?
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Post by tamz on Jul 15, 2020 15:35:22 GMT -5
If the AVP isn't going to stream the qualifier, let's hope they at least live score it. I don't remember any qualifier having live scoring. Qualifiers will have live scores.
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Post by wisco on Jul 15, 2020 15:58:35 GMT -5
Honestly if the AVP can find a way to put on professional event during pandemic but say they don't have capability to live stream qualifiers it's a joke. I want to state how grateful I am for them putting the event on. Love the AVP and travel to multiple events a year. But if any random AVP qualifier player can setup a phone and go live on FB zero reason why AVP can setup some phones/ipads for static camera view of each court. Waupaca and Pottstown do it with one camera most of the time and they have 1/10th resources of AVP. If they don't want to put out low quality product that is different reason, but the answer they have been giving on FB about too many people on site is a joke. Hook up a phone/laptop to a battery pack and hit stream is as easy and low maintenance as it gets. Otherwise you are telling me they can't have the cameras they use for amazon ready to go one day early. Again no commentary or replays needed, just throw the die hard fans a bone and stream the qualifiers. What would you pay to watch most of the play in matches?? $4.99 a tourney? 11.99? They'd have to get about 3-5K subscribers to pay for workers, and equipment. I don't think they are there yet. I would definitely pay $5-10. If nothing else to support the AVP. I make sure I buy at least something at every event I travel to (2-4 a year) to try to make sure my $ goes to the AVP. However I don't see how setting up a phone or ipad and going Facebook live is going to cost anything. The players do it already, so why not do it for them since it is little/no cost to do so. One ipad or phone per court hooked up to batter pack on tripod. Takes less then 5 min to setup just hit play at start of match (one player or ref can easily do this) Just for the qualifiers. To me it doesn't delude your product at all since only the real diehards are going to be looking for the qualifier matches anyways. Plus as bonus the more streaming means more chances for crazy highlights that can be re-posted on FB/Instagram and get more exposure/grow the game both for the AVP and individual players themselves. I honestly can't see one argument against why they can't find way to stream qualifiers. As tennis fan they stream the qualifiers to most of the majors, quality is nowhere near as good as main draw but it's there and available so if you are fan of someone outside the main draw you can watch. This is essentially the same thing. Just this week on Sandcast Rafu was asking Travis if he is allowed to live stream his qualifier matches. AVP is already a niche sport so why wouldn't you want to capture as many eyes as you can on your sport. Say someone is huge Rosie fan why would you prevent them from watching his match? Or lets say some USA indoor fans want to watch Priddy/Lee after watching them indoors for years. Seems very foolish to pass up opportunity to expand viewership at little to no cost for AVP. We already are losing one day of broadcast and multiple tournaments. Qualifier players are going to try to live stream it so instead of fans trying to find whichever player is livestreaming AVP could easily put it on their social media pages and drive more users to their page. Of all the things they had to do to pull off this tournament during COVID this seems very easy compared to everything else.
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Post by JB Southpaw on Jul 15, 2020 18:21:54 GMT -5
What would you pay to watch most of the play in matches?? $4.99 a tourney? 11.99? They'd have to get about 3-5K subscribers to pay for workers, and equipment. I don't think they are there yet. I would definitely pay $5-10. If nothing else to support the AVP. I make sure I buy at least something at every event I travel to (2-4 a year) to try to make sure my $ goes to the AVP. However I don't see how setting up a phone or ipad and going Facebook live is going to cost anything. The players do it already, so why not do it for them since it is little/no cost to do so. One ipad or phone per court hooked up to batter pack on tripod. Takes less then 5 min to setup just hit play at start of match (one player or ref can easily do this) Just for the qualifiers. To me it doesn't delude your product at all since only the real diehards are going to be looking for the qualifier matches anyways. Plus as bonus the more streaming means more chances for crazy highlights that can be re-posted on FB/Instagram and get more exposure/grow the game both for the AVP and individual players themselves. I honestly can't see one argument against why they can't find way to stream qualifiers. As tennis fan they stream the qualifiers to most of the majors, quality is nowhere near as good as main draw but it's there and available so if you are fan of someone outside the main draw you can watch. This is essentially the same thing. Just this week on Sandcast Rafu was asking Travis if he is allowed to live stream his qualifier matches. AVP is already a niche sport so why wouldn't you want to capture as many eyes as you can on your sport. Say someone is huge Rosie fan why would you prevent them from watching his match? Or lets say some USA indoor fans want to watch Priddy/Lee after watching them indoors for years. Seems very foolish to pass up opportunity to expand viewership at little to no cost for AVP. We already are losing one day of broadcast and multiple tournaments. Qualifier players are going to try to live stream it so instead of fans trying to find whichever player is livestreaming AVP could easily put it on their social media pages and drive more users to their page. Of all the things they had to do to pull off this tournament during COVID this seems very easy compared to everything else. Not so simple, when there are 40 1st round matches in the Q including both genders. I would be happy with the play in matches being broadcast. I'd love the "semis" to the playing to be shown.
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Post by ajm on Jul 15, 2020 18:48:13 GMT -5
Maybe someone with a drone can drive over to the site on Friday, fly the drone over the court, and stream the games that way!
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Post by ajm on Jul 16, 2020 14:41:52 GMT -5
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Post by tamz on Jul 16, 2020 15:58:49 GMT -5
Don’t think ATeam will have a coach here. Jen Kessy is still in Maine. She started her road trip cross country not long after AVP announced Champions Cup series.
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Post by stevieofmb on Jul 16, 2020 16:16:32 GMT -5
Busy morning this morning in Hermosa. While riding my bike I saw Bourne/Crabb practicing against Brunner/Patterson, Bomgren/Field practicing against Ricardo/Evans with Benesh/Beranek watching (presumably they practiced earlier) and Kolinske/Rosenthal practicing against Honer/Webber (I think it was Webber).
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Post by beachindoor on Jul 16, 2020 16:19:51 GMT -5
Busy morning this morning in Hermosa. While riding my bike I saw Bourne/Crabb practicing against Brunner/Patterson, Bomgren/Field practicing against Ricardo/Evans with Benesh/Beranek watching (presumably they practiced earlier) and Kolinske/Rosenthal practicing against Honer/Webber (I think it was Webber). How are the players with fans watching during practices? Are they okay with it?
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Post by stevieofmb on Jul 16, 2020 16:39:18 GMT -5
Busy morning this morning in Hermosa. While riding my bike I saw Bourne/Crabb practicing against Brunner/Patterson, Bomgren/Field practicing against Ricardo/Evans with Benesh/Beranek watching (presumably they practiced earlier) and Kolinske/Rosenthal practicing against Honer/Webber (I think it was Webber). How are the players with fans watching during practices? Are they okay with it? They're fine with it and even if they weren't, they're playing on a public beach so there's nothing they could do about it. They probably appreciate people watching since there won't be any at the Champions Cup.
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Post by overonone on Jul 16, 2020 17:11:50 GMT -5
Rode my bike this morning too. Caught a few points of Crabb/Gibb v Phil/Nick at 15th. Quite a crowd. How are the players with fans watching during practices? Are they okay with it? They're fine with it and even if they weren't, they're playing on a public beach so there's nothing they could do about it. They probably appreciate people watching since there won't be any at the Champions Cup.
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