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Post by horns1 on Aug 12, 2020 7:43:29 GMT -5
This is from the ESPN show Pardon the Interruption today. Mike Wilbon, as well connected in sports as anyone and a member of the Northwestern Board of Trustees, has a message for Nebraska if they want to go play football elsewhere this fall-“Get the Hell Out”. If Nebraska wants to play football in the Big 12 this fall, it should be made clear to them the move would mean their exit from the Big Ten. They might be surprised to know how many people would be just fine with that. Big Ten discussion starts at 55 sec. Nebraska at 2:40. Nebraska is not leaving the Big Ten. Period. People are taking "we want to play" to a bizarre extreme. If Nebraska plays any sports this Fall it will be with the blessing of the Big Ten conference. If that blessing doesn't happen, Nebraska is not going to go rogue. People need to use some common sense. The economy of Lincoln is massively dependent on these Fall sports. It makes absolute sense that our administration would leave no stone unturned rather than see that economy - and their own payroll - take such a massive hit. If that search for options is fruitless, at least they tried. But they have to try. What I think is far more likely than Nebraska leaving the conference is the Big Ten providing some kind of waiver for the Huskers to play some regional "exhibition" games. Allegedly North Dakota State has reached out, and (again allegedly) one or both of the Kansas schools have reached out. Before any of that happens, TV rights to the games have to be figured out, logistics have to be hammered out, and that's on top of receiving green lights from the NCAA or the Big Ten.
The Commish has spoken:
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Post by vbcoltrane on Aug 12, 2020 7:47:45 GMT -5
Wouldn't one reason be that NE would then have all that on-field, real-game experience which would give them an advantage when the spring season ostensibly happens.
This dynamic has been noted here when talking about VB if there's a spring championship yet some teams still play this fall while others don't.
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 7:51:21 GMT -5
Nebraska is not leaving the Big Ten. Period. People are taking "we want to play" to a bizarre extreme. If Nebraska plays any sports this Fall it will be with the blessing of the Big Ten conference. If that blessing doesn't happen, Nebraska is not going to go rogue. People need to use some common sense. The economy of Lincoln is massively dependent on these Fall sports. It makes absolute sense that our administration would leave no stone unturned rather than see that economy - and their own payroll - take such a massive hit. If that search for options is fruitless, at least they tried. But they have to try. What I think is far more likely than Nebraska leaving the conference is the Big Ten providing some kind of waiver for the Huskers to play some regional "exhibition" games. Allegedly North Dakota State has reached out, and (again allegedly) one or both of the Kansas schools have reached out. Before any of that happens, TV rights to the games have to be figured out, logistics have to be hammered out, and that's on top of receiving green lights from the NCAA or the Big Ten.
The Commish has spoken:
This would be the same commissioner who allowed a Fall schedule to be released six days before canceling the season. Let's just say things can change. I don't think it's likely, but that statement isn't a closed door any more than the schedule release was a commitment to play.
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 7:53:18 GMT -5
Wouldn't one reason be that NE would then have all that on-field, real-game experience which would give them an advantage when the spring season ostensibly happens. This dynamic has been noted here when talking about VB if there's a spring championship yet some teams still play this fall while others don't. With athletic department budgets so heavily dependent on football revenue, and with there being next to no chance that any teams or conferences play a meaningful Spring football season, there's next to no chance there will be money in the budget to play Spring volleyball. All 2020/2021 sports are on a cancellation watch right now.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 12, 2020 7:56:52 GMT -5
Nebraska is not leaving the Big Ten. Period. People are taking "we want to play" to a bizarre extreme. If Nebraska plays any sports this Fall it will be with the blessing of the Big Ten conference. If that blessing doesn't happen, Nebraska is not going to go rogue. People need to use some common sense. The economy of Lincoln is massively dependent on these Fall sports. It makes absolute sense that our administration would leave no stone unturned rather than see that economy - and their own payroll - take such a massive hit. If that search for options is fruitless, at least they tried. But they have to try. What I think is far more likely than Nebraska leaving the conference is the Big Ten providing some kind of waiver for the Huskers to play some regional "exhibition" games. Allegedly North Dakota State has reached out, and (again allegedly) one or both of the Kansas schools have reached out. Before any of that happens, TV rights to the games have to be figured out, logistics have to be hammered out, and that's on top of receiving green lights from the NCAA or the Big Ten.
The Commish has spoken:
I think it was an incredibly stupid thing for Frost to say
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 7:58:46 GMT -5
I think it was an incredibly stupid thing for Frost to say Which specific quote was "stupid?"
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Post by leftyopp on Aug 12, 2020 8:08:49 GMT -5
Spring football won't happen. Logistically and practicality wise it would be a mess. First, no NFL prospects would play, they would opt out as there is no way they would risk playing a Spring season, then have to participate in NFL camps and then an NFL season in 3-4 months. Additionally, you would almost certainly have to delay the Fall 2021 season to allow returning players to recover. You think there are health risks playing now - just wait for that fall out.
Lastly, if Football wont play in the Fall... Basketball is assuredly not playing in the Winter. Nothing could possibly change over the next 2 months to allow hoops to play. So without Football or Basketball $$$, there is no way traditional Spring sports could play - unless some really big $$$ boosters step up and finance it.
RIP Big Ten 2020-2021 sports.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 12, 2020 8:27:05 GMT -5
I think it was an incredibly stupid thing for Frost to say I can admire his passion for wanting his players to be able to play, and his willingness to explore all options. But, I think he could have chosen his words more carefully.
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 8:30:29 GMT -5
I think it was an incredibly stupid thing for Frost to say I can admire his passion for wanting his players to be able to play, and his willingness to explore all options. But, I think he could have chosen his words more carefully. Like what, specifically, did he say wrong? I get the impression that a lot of people are going off the snippets people like Adam Rittenberg are posting and not the entirety of his comments in context. So I'm curious.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 12, 2020 8:42:52 GMT -5
I can admire his passion for wanting his players to be able to play, and his willingness to explore all options. But, I think he could have chosen his words more carefully. Like what, specifically, did he say wrong? I get the impression that a lot of people are going off the snippets people like Adam Rittenberg are posting and not the entirety of his comments in context. So I'm curious. It's not about right or wrong. His "tone" and words come across as being prepared to blaze Nebraska's own trail, regardless of what other member schools decide to do:
“We want to play a Big Ten schedule, I hope that’s what happens,” Frost said. “Our university’s committed no matter what that looks like and how that looks. We want to play no matter who it is or where it is, so we’ll see how those chips fall.
“We certainly hope it’s in the Big Ten. If it isn’t, then I think we’re prepared to look for other options.
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 8:45:54 GMT -5
Like what, specifically, did he say wrong? I get the impression that a lot of people are going off the snippets people like Adam Rittenberg are posting and not the entirety of his comments in context. So I'm curious. It's not about right or wrong. His "tone" and words come across as being prepared to blaze his own trail, regardless of what other member schools decide to do:
“We want to play a Big Ten schedule, I hope that’s what happens,” Frost said. “Our university’s committed no matter what that looks like and how that looks. We want to play no matter who it is or where it is, so we’ll see how those chips fall.
“We certainly hope it’s in the Big Ten. If it isn’t, then I think we’re prepared to look for other options.
His tone was that of a coach who wants his kids to play football. I fail to see anything wrong with what he said or how he said it. Good for him for sticking up for his players, his town and his state, the latter two of which are heavily dependent - uniquely so in the Big Ten - on revenue generated from football tourism. People complaining about Frost's tone apparently have no idea the financial devastation this will wreak on Lincoln.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 12, 2020 8:52:23 GMT -5
It's not about right or wrong. His "tone" and words come across as being prepared to blaze his own trail, regardless of what other member schools decide to do:
“We want to play a Big Ten schedule, I hope that’s what happens,” Frost said. “Our university’s committed no matter what that looks like and how that looks. We want to play no matter who it is or where it is, so we’ll see how those chips fall.
“We certainly hope it’s in the Big Ten. If it isn’t, then I think we’re prepared to look for other options.
His tone was that of a coach who wants his kids to play football. I fail to see anything wrong with what he said or how he said it. Good for him for sticking up for his players, his town and his state, the latter two of which are heavily dependent - uniquely so in the Big Ten - on revenue generated from football tourism. People complaining about Frost's tone apparently have no idea the financial devastation this will wreak on Lincoln. Well, that's the conference Nebraska CHOSE to join. So, when in Rome . . .
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Post by knapplc on Aug 12, 2020 9:04:55 GMT -5
Well, that's the conference Nebraska CHOSE to join. So, when in Rome . . . It was a fantastic choice, too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2020 9:11:25 GMT -5
It's not about right or wrong. His "tone" and words come across as being prepared to blaze his own trail, regardless of what other member schools decide to do:
“We want to play a Big Ten schedule, I hope that’s what happens,” Frost said. “Our university’s committed no matter what that looks like and how that looks. We want to play no matter who it is or where it is, so we’ll see how those chips fall.
“We certainly hope it’s in the Big Ten. If it isn’t, then I think we’re prepared to look for other options.
His tone was that of a coach who wants his kids to play football. I fail to see anything wrong with what he said or how he said it. Good for him for sticking up for his players, his town and his state, the latter two of which are heavily dependent - uniquely so in the Big Ten - on revenue generated from football tourism. People complaining about Frost's tone apparently have no idea the financial devastation this will wreak on Lincoln. I appreciate the concern with the local economy. Ann Arbor, Madison, State College, Champaign, Iowa City, etc., etc. feel that pain. But, even if there were actual games, it isn't like tens of thousands of fans would still be descending upon these cities to pack into a stadium. The local economy is taking that hit either way.
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Post by horns1 on Aug 12, 2020 9:12:49 GMT -5
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