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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 22, 2020 11:13:50 GMT -5
The word “volleyball” doesn’t appear once on this pave of 15 posts. There are other boards to discuss Covid data Quiz time Question 1: why is the B1G not playing volleyball this fall? Question 2: what has to change for the B1G to play volleyball this spring? Answer key: 1. Covid 2. Covid
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Post by gibbyb1 on Aug 22, 2020 11:28:21 GMT -5
The word “volleyball” doesn’t appear once on this pave of 15 posts. There are other boards to discuss Covid data Quiz time Question 1: why is the B1G not playing volleyball this fall? Question 2: what has to change for the B1G to play volleyball this spring? Answer key: 1. Covid 2. Covid Covid as it relates to big ten vb is fine, this is not what this is however. Unless of course Sweden has joined the Big Ten without me bring aware.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Aug 22, 2020 11:41:55 GMT -5
I live in FL although I am not sure why that matters. I am happy to discuss any aspect of the data you would like. I am also happy to point you towards the best web sites and people to follow if you are really interested in the data. FWIW, people like Nate Silver at 538 are starting to come around to the HIT hypothesis. He certainly isn't a conservative. But a close look at the data suggests that it is the only hypothesis that fits what is happening. I am pretty well versed in this stuff and I would like to think that my views are data driven. OTOH, everything we know about psychology suggests that political views are mostly genetic and that we use our reasoning skills primarily to justify our pre-held beliefs. This is true of all ideologies and all people will ignore facts when they clash with core values. Political views are mostly genetic....?? Yes. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/why-we-vary/201906/heritable-politics
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:12:36 GMT -5
Neither does that article, nor the associated research, support your statement that such views mostly genetic.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Aug 22, 2020 12:33:12 GMT -5
Neither does that article, nor the associated research, support your statement that such views mostly genetic. Mostly is probably the wrong word. I think the research says between 10-60% depending upon what metric you are talking about.....
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 22, 2020 12:40:47 GMT -5
"weakly to moderately heritable" means "mostly genetic"?
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Post by n00b on Aug 27, 2020 23:17:22 GMT -5
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Post by vbcoltrane on Aug 28, 2020 9:46:39 GMT -5
From the article:
"While there wasn't a uniformed agreement between Power 5 power-brokers, our sources both in Chicago and Ann Arbor said the expectation was that once the Big Ten made its announcement, the Pac 12 would immediately follow (as it did) and then the ACC would follow suit too, putting tremendous pressure on the SEC and Big 12. The Big 12 would go next, and then the SEC, with nothing left to play for, would reluctantly give in.
So why the ACC third? Because many of the universities within the conference are esteemed educational schools, led by the same academic minds that populate the Big Ten. Particularly Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Georgia Tech and even Florida State (surprisingly, the No. 18 public university nationally) were supposed to be in lockstep with the Big Ten and wield enough power to force the entire ACC into following the Big Ten's lead."
Just trash writing - why get those shots in? I never really thought about this as a "esteemed educational institution" vs. non-esteemed issue. I just thought it was Southern football culture holding out longer and not pulling the trigger on the season because - Southern football culture.
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Post by reader on Aug 28, 2020 17:02:09 GMT -5
It's conceit at the university president level: The *shudder* SEC can play, we True Academic institutions are going to do the smart thing.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 28, 2020 17:49:08 GMT -5
I just thought it was Southern football culture holding out longer and not pulling the trigger on the season because - Southern football culture.
I agree with this, though I might add football money into the mix. I think people are just bored now trying to explain what is going on and why their world has changed on a dime. Plus, sports journos gotta make a living when there is nothing much to write about. But it's just not that complicated.
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Post by HappyVolley on Aug 30, 2020 13:11:53 GMT -5
I'm not going to keep saying it because truthfully if it happens then great we will see more football but if not then oh well🤷🏽♂️ my team is playing so I'm good with either way. I guess we will just have to wait and see won't we. So, what you are trying to tell me is that Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are all in on this and the B1G still has fall canceled? In terms of athletics, OSU, PSU and UM are the king makers in the B1G. Wisconsin is 4th biggest in the ring, and they probably punch way above their weight because Barry Alvarez has been among the most prominent figures in the B1G for 30 years. If those 4 schools wanted to drag the rest of the B1G into a fall season, there would be a fall season. And I still say that your team may be playing in the fall...for now. If I were a betting man, I would still vote against seeing that. It's amusing that you think Penn State is a king maker in the B1G. Penn State has always been the red-headed stepchild, ranking only slightly above Rutgers in stature and influence at the B1G headquarters.
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Post by vbcoltrane on Aug 30, 2020 16:11:26 GMT -5
"So, what you are trying to tell me is that Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are all in on this and the B1G still has fall canceled? In terms of athletics, OSU, PSU and UM are the king makers in the B1G."
I'd put UM and OSU by themselves at the top. Football, PSU might be next in line. Overall, I'd think Wisconsin would be equivalent to PSU or above.
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Post by hammer on Aug 30, 2020 17:14:41 GMT -5
"So, what you are trying to tell me is that Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are all in on this and the B1G still has fall canceled? In terms of athletics, OSU, PSU and UM are the king makers in the B1G." I'd put UM and OSU by themselves at the top. Football, PSU might be next in line. Overall, I'd think Wisconsin would be equivalent to PSU or above. What about the powerful Minnesota Golden Gophers? Whoops, never mind.
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Post by oldnewbie on Aug 30, 2020 17:26:46 GMT -5
"So, what you are trying to tell me is that Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are all in on this and the B1G still has fall canceled? In terms of athletics, OSU, PSU and UM are the king makers in the B1G." I'd put UM and OSU by themselves at the top. Football, PSU might be next in line. Overall, I'd think Wisconsin would be equivalent to PSU or above. What about the powerful Minnesota Golden Gophers? Whoops, never mind. I thought Indiana, Northwestern, Illinois, Purdue and Rutgers would drive this?
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Post by vbcoltrane on Aug 30, 2020 19:13:09 GMT -5
"So, what you are trying to tell me is that Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Wisconsin are all in on this and the B1G still has fall canceled? In terms of athletics, OSU, PSU and UM are the king makers in the B1G." I'd put UM and OSU by themselves at the top. Football, PSU might be next in line. Overall, I'd think Wisconsin would be equivalent to PSU or above. What about the powerful Minnesota Golden Gophers? Whoops, never mind. I don't know where they'd fit on the scale. Not at the top, not at the bottom.
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