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Post by ay2013 on Jul 7, 2021 22:15:28 GMT -5
How are these people picked? Because theres lots of people who should be listed that isnt. Girls were invited and given a time deadline to decide, at least that's what happened in my daughter's case. Girls that you think should be on the list and are not may have had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the camp. Yeah, like that OH and S from AZ Storm 14's....no way they shouldn't be on this list somewhere.
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Post by Friday on Jul 7, 2021 23:00:22 GMT -5
How are these people picked? Because theres lots of people who should be listed that isnt. Girls were invited and given a time deadline to decide, at least that's what happened in my daughter's case. Girls that you think should be on the list and are not may have had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the camp. There are a lot of girls missing as well. Bias to large clubs and qualifiers.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jul 8, 2021 0:08:31 GMT -5
Girls were invited and given a time deadline to decide, at least that's what happened in my daughter's case. Girls that you think should be on the list and are not may have had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the camp. There are a lot of girls missing as well. Bias to large clubs and qualifiers. Qualifiers are the most expedient way to see a lot of girls that would be playing at the level USAV would want, I imagine. Not saying it's right, just saying it is what it is.
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Post by Friday on Jul 8, 2021 14:35:52 GMT -5
There are a lot of girls missing as well. Bias to large clubs and qualifiers. Qualifiers are the most expedient way to see a lot of girls that would be playing at the level USAV would want, I imagine. Not saying it's right, just saying it is what it is. Agree, but open level at AAU or Triple Crown works too. As has been discussed, lots of top teams don't do qualifiers.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jul 8, 2021 14:43:44 GMT -5
Qualifiers are the most expedient way to see a lot of girls that would be playing at the level USAV would want, I imagine. Not saying it's right, just saying it is what it is. Agree, but open level at AAU or Triple Crown works too. As has been discussed, lots of top teams don't do qualifiers. And I agree with you. GJNC and the qualifiers associated with them are USAV events are they not? If so I see it as passive aggressive punishment for not playing ball. But I could be COMPLETELY wrong about that.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 8, 2021 16:23:36 GMT -5
FWIW, many players who are in JVA/AAU clubs may not be members of USAV. I'm not sure how that factors in.
Also, not everybody has to take part. I know one club publicized all their players who were selected, and I don't see them all on that list.
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Post by gtrich on Jul 8, 2021 16:25:56 GMT -5
One thing to remember is that in previous years, the HP invites went out at the end of April/first of May. With the changeover from HP to NTDP, they were delayed a couple of weeks this year to mid-May. So the AAU Championships are typically after the normal decision deadline for HP. Now that the NTDP program is supposed to be a quarterly thing, you would expect that kids would be seen by the NTDP scouts at AAU's and USAV Nationals and those events would help for selection into the fall NTDP training events. But for the event in a couple of weeks, they had to draw the line somewhere from a logistical perspective. Especially when you are talking about an event with a little over 300 boys/girls.
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Post by justahick on Jul 8, 2021 16:58:18 GMT -5
Agree, but open level at AAU or Triple Crown works too. As has been discussed, lots of top teams don't do qualifiers. And I agree with you. GJNC and the qualifiers associated with them are USAV events are they not? If so I see it as passive aggressive punishment for not playing ball. But I could be COMPLETELY wrong about that. Not so much passive aggressive as it is not supporting/attending events for competing organizations.
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Post by Friday on Jul 8, 2021 19:11:19 GMT -5
I'd say the NTDP and HP team selections couple with the UA AA selections mostly occuring at qualifiers, it certainly does seem to be a passive aggressive jab at JVA players. Which is a shame because you are punishing the players and not so much the clubs and frankly missing out on some great talent.
Hopefully if NTDP is really quarterly that will give more girls an opportunity. Will have to see how that plays out.
In the past for A1, etc. girls could get a USA membership on their own. That shouldn't be a factor.
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Post by Bud Kilmer on Jul 8, 2021 21:31:02 GMT -5
Girls were invited and given a time deadline to decide, at least that's what happened in my daughter's case. Girls that you think should be on the list and are not may have had a scheduling conflict and couldn't make the camp. There are a lot of girls missing as well. Bias to large clubs and qualifiers. Ding ding...basically you need to play for skyline, Houston Jrs or TAV in Texas to get a look
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jul 8, 2021 22:47:06 GMT -5
There are a lot of girls missing as well. Bias to large clubs and qualifiers. Ding ding...basically you need to play for skyline, Houston Jrs or TAV in Texas to get a look Not true. If you look at the list of girls that made U18 and the developmental camp you’d see that there are girls from plenty of clubs outside of Texas.
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Post by basil on Jul 8, 2021 23:00:54 GMT -5
Ding ding...basically you need to play for skyline, Houston Jrs or TAV in Texas to get a look Not true. If you look at the list of girls that made U18 and the developmental camp you’d see that there are girls from plenty of clubs outside of Texas. Unless I'm misreading what your response meant, I believe the OP is saying that players specifically in Texas will have a hard time getting a USAV look if they don't play for the big clubs in the Dallas/Houston areas.
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Post by rrvbfan on Jul 9, 2021 0:48:27 GMT -5
FWIW, many players who are in JVA/AAU clubs may not be members of USAV. I'm not sure how that factors in. Also, not everybody has to take part. I know one club publicized all their players who were selected, and I don't see them all on that list. The athlete is selected and sent an invite, but they don’t have to pay for the camp and accept the invite. The NDTP 24 person roster is paid for but the 72 (or however many it is) is pretty pricy. So athletes could have chosen to attend other camps and forgo the USA invite.
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Post by rogero1 on Jul 9, 2021 2:53:42 GMT -5
FWIW, many players who are in JVA/AAU clubs may not be members of USAV. I'm not sure how that factors in. Also, not everybody has to take part. I know one club publicized all their players who were selected, and I don't see them all on that list. The athlete is selected and sent an invite, but they don’t have to pay for the camp and accept the invite. The NDTP 24 person roster is paid for but the 72 (or however many it is) is pretty pricy. So athletes could have chosen to attend other camps and forgo the USA invite. If an athlete is chosen for the NDTP, I believe they must have a USAV membership to be chosen for insurance purposes.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jul 9, 2021 8:15:31 GMT -5
Not true. If you look at the list of girls that made U18 and the developmental camp you’d see that there are girls from plenty of clubs outside of Texas. Unless I'm misreading what your response meant, I believe the OP is saying that players specifically in Texas will have a hard time getting a USAV look if they don't play for the big clubs in the Dallas/Houston areas. Thank you so much for the clarification! I didn't pick up on that. My bad.
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