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Post by donut on Feb 12, 2021 15:57:58 GMT -5
Lol blue is biased about bias. Meta.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 12, 2021 15:58:06 GMT -5
For what it's worth, the constituency which benefits most from school choice is rich(ish) white people who now get to subsidize their kids' private school education with vouchers. That's actually arguable. I went to a private school that wasn't full of rich white kids. More like full of working class Catholic white kids. But yes, very much full of white kids. The really rich people don't need voucher money, and some of them wouldn't want kids that do need it to go to the school with their kids. The people who really want vouchers are those who aren't 1%ers but who want their kids going to a) a segregated school, b) a religious school, c) both, d) other. I believe my parents were in the "d) other" category when they sent me and my sister to a private Catholic school (where my mom taught), but I can't say for 100% certainty. I am fairly certain that they would have welcomed vouchers at the time. Hence the "ish."
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Post by n00b on Feb 12, 2021 18:11:00 GMT -5
That's actually arguable. I went to a private school that wasn't full of rich white kids. More like full of working class Catholic white kids. But yes, very much full of white kids. The really rich people don't need voucher money, and some of them wouldn't want kids that do need it to go to the school with their kids. The people who really want vouchers are those who aren't 1%ers but who want their kids going to a) a segregated school, b) a religious school, c) both, d) other. I believe my parents were in the "d) other" category when they sent me and my sister to a private Catholic school (where my mom taught), but I can't say for 100% certainty. I am fairly certain that they would have welcomed vouchers at the time. Hence the "ish." If that’s true in your area, they are doing vouchers wrong. The correct way (and how my area works) is that there is a limited number of vouchers set by the state for which you can apply for. Priority goes to 1) students who were in the program last year, then 2) students who fall below the poverty line (or it might be 2x the poverty line). My private elementary was probably 15% non-white. Vouchers absolutely increased the diversity. And the vouchers were going to low income families.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 12, 2021 18:34:56 GMT -5
It is not true in my area because I live in a state where (for now) we still value universal public education.
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Post by gobruins on Feb 13, 2021 18:06:44 GMT -5
Poll these questions and see how they compare. 1) Do you believe in the right for a women to choose on reproductive rights. 2) Do you believe that a baby in the womb has a right to life. Phrasing matters. Calling something Pro Choice is going to poll better than Pro Abortion. It is not an accident Abortion rights are usually referred to Pro Choice and not Pro Abortion. How do you think the poll on "school choice" would go if the question was: "do you favor using taxpayer's money to support private schools?"
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 13, 2021 18:15:45 GMT -5
I do....unions are ruining public schools. They have chose to make education political.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 13, 2021 18:16:20 GMT -5
They have chose to make education political. How
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 13, 2021 18:51:05 GMT -5
They have chose to make education political. How Teachers unions who are overwhelmingly Democrat. When we start teaching a political agenda, thats when families should pull their kids out of school and choose parachial or private schools.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 13, 2021 18:52:49 GMT -5
Teachers unions who are overwhelmingly Democrat. When we start teaching a political agenda, thats when families should pull their kids out of school and choose parachial or private schools. No, what political agenda do you think they're teaching?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 13, 2021 19:00:05 GMT -5
Teachers unions who are overwhelmingly Democrat. When we start teaching a political agenda, thats when families should pull their kids out of school and choose parachial or private schools. No, what political agenda do you think they're teaching? Definately a liberal agenda. Isn't that blatantly obvious. Colleges? A complete disaster. State colleges? I am not going to have my taxes go to professor dumbshts promoting Democrats.
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Post by cindra on Feb 13, 2021 19:05:51 GMT -5
No, what political agenda do you think they're teaching? Definately a liberal agenda. Isn't that blatantly obvious. Colleges? A complete disaster. State colleges? I am not going to have my taxes go to professor dumbshts promoting Democrats. Have you taken a class at a university any time within the last few decades?
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 13, 2021 20:06:05 GMT -5
Definately a liberal agenda. Isn't that blatantly obvious. Colleges? A complete disaster. State colleges? I am not going to have my taxes go to professor dumbshts promoting Democrats. Have you taken a class at a university any time within the last few decades? The college he claims to have attended lost its accreditation and went bankrupt.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 13, 2021 20:15:18 GMT -5
Definately a liberal agenda. Isn't that blatantly obvious. Colleges? A complete disaster. State colleges? I am not going to have my taxes go to professor dumbshts promoting Democrats. Have you taken a class at a university any time within the last few decades? yes...but now I don't put up with it and let me professor know when I am not impressed. I am paying for the class so keep your politics to yourself. I am not interested .
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 13, 2021 20:16:18 GMT -5
Have you taken a class at a university any time within the last few decades? The college he claims to have attended lost its accreditation and went bankrupt. Candle light taught there for some time. I heard their was rampant embezzling going on.
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Post by donut on Feb 13, 2021 23:03:40 GMT -5
*there
Lol ironic.
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