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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 13:47:35 GMT -5
But we Democrats are for the working people, the common man, we care about you so much.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 13:48:16 GMT -5
Well believe it or not people in rural America still need to buy groceries, they still need to buy drugs at the drugstore, they still need to read the news,. No one is getting rich, because we don’t have the population. But those services are still required. Only a uninformed Democrat who believes the city people are far more important would make a stupid comment like you just did. Nope, pretty sure you suck at business. And I am almost positive you are a complete idiot from the city who has no idea what goes on anywhere else but in the city.
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 10, 2021 13:50:35 GMT -5
Nope, pretty sure you suck at business. And I am almost positive you are a complete idiot from the city who has no idea what goes on anywhere else but in the city. Does the farm across the street from my house count? Or what about the other one on my road? Or the five I pass between my house and the grocery store?
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Post by mervinswerved on Feb 10, 2021 13:51:46 GMT -5
Anyway, paying the working people a living wage is absolutely a good idea. $7.25/hr is a travesty.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 14:10:08 GMT -5
And I am almost positive you are a complete idiot from the city who has no idea what goes on anywhere else but in the city. Does the farm across the street from my house count? Or what about the other one on my road? Or the five I pass between my house and the grocery store? If you live in a rural area then you should know better. Go ask a business owner what they think and what will happen if the wage goes to 15.00 an hour.....if you want to be informed.
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Post by moody on Feb 10, 2021 14:14:35 GMT -5
Does the farm across the street from my house count? Or what about the other one on my road? Or the five I pass between my house and the grocery store? If you live in a rural area then you should know better. Go ask a business owner what they think and what will happen if the wage goes to 15.00 an hour.....if you want to be informed. Many small businesses support $15 per hour
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Post by donut on Feb 10, 2021 14:19:09 GMT -5
Living wage for western Nebraska county that holiday may or may not live in:
1 adult no children: $10.28 1 adult 1 child: $23.25
Explain how refusing to pay $15/hour to that single parent is caring about them again?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 14:53:55 GMT -5
Living wage for western Nebraska county that holiday may or may not live in: 1 adult no children: $10.28 1 adult 1 child: $23.25 Explain how refusing to pay $15/hour to that single parent is caring about them again? Because most of the people working are not full-time They are people that are using those wages to supplement income or help with Social Security. A job is better than no job. That’s what you people don’t understand. Nor do you care.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 14:55:53 GMT -5
If you live in a rural area then you should know better. Go ask a business owner what they think and what will happen if the wage goes to 15.00 an hour.....if you want to be informed. Many small businesses support $15 per hour I highly doubt that.
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Post by cindra on Feb 10, 2021 15:03:37 GMT -5
A 2015 poll showed 60% of small businesses support an immediate change to $12 and then increases tied to inflation. The proposed bill would only raise it to 9.50 immediately and then phase in higher amounts over 5 years.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 15:07:39 GMT -5
A 2015 poll showed 60% of small businesses support an immediate change to $12 and then increases tied to inflation. The proposed bill would only raise it to 9.50 immediately and then phase in higher amounts over 5 years. In 2015 before Covid. Good luck with that now.
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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 10, 2021 15:14:14 GMT -5
The thing is, of course, that if the minimum wage is raised, all businesses have to follow. So it's not the same as if some company decides on their own to raise wages. Since all the companies have to do the same thing, nobody gets a competitive disadvantage.
It does, however, give an advantage to companies that are hiring people under the table. There will probably be an increase of businesses illegally paying people cash under the table to work for them and avoid taxes, minimum wage, worker safety laws, etc.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 10, 2021 15:31:22 GMT -5
The thing is, of course, that if the minimum wage is raised, all businesses have to follow. So it's not the same as if some company decides on their own to raise wages. Since all the companies have to do the same thing, nobody gets a competitive disadvantage. It does, however, give an advantage to companies that are hiring people under the table. There will probably be an increase of businesses illegally paying people cash under the table to work for them and avoid taxes, minimum wage, worker safety laws, etc. you got it because they’re trying to survive. The government is supposed to help you survive as a business. Do you think restaurants after Covid can afford 15 an hour?Is Joe Biden that dumb?
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Post by bluepenquin on Feb 10, 2021 17:03:14 GMT -5
The article cited no one that said it wouldn't increase unemployment - it just said some (unidentified) economist dispute the 1.4M number. This could (probably) means they think the number of lost jobs would be less or even substantially less. Hard to make the argument that it wouldn't reduce employment in the short term by some number. There was actually the phrase "little to no job loss". So no, the article said that at least some economists *do* say it wouldn't increase unemployment. Of course, it's just an article, not a formal paper or anything. But again, your claim that no economists disagree with you was so extraordinary and unsupported that it was a snap to Goggle up examples of an economist disagreeing with you. If raising the minimum wage didn't cause unemployment - why only $15 per hour. Wouldn't a minimum wage of $1,000,000 per hour be far better? A minimum wage law outlaws employment by making some employment illegal - it doesn't add to employment, or at least it is illogical to say we are going to increase employment by making some employment illegal. Now - a minimum wage of $1 would have no impact on unemployment. Maybe $15 will have a small impact - but there is no logical way that it can add jobs.
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Post by bluepenquin on Feb 10, 2021 17:05:39 GMT -5
A 2015 poll showed 60% of small businesses support an immediate change to $12 and then increases tied to inflation. The proposed bill would only raise it to 9.50 immediately and then phase in higher amounts over 5 years. Most small businesses don't pay below $12 and raising the minimum wage will not directly impact their business or could help them by driving out competition. This doesn't work out as well for those that will be made unemployed or businesses that go out of business.
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