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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 19:45:40 GMT -5
Devyn Robinson will be an Olympian at MB. If losing to Maryland was what it took for Sheffield to move her back to her natural position, it was worth it for the Badgers.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 20:10:02 GMT -5
Other than "it wasn't COVID", we know nothing. She was there on "the bench" Saturday, but not dressed to play. That is, even if some "emergency" arose, she wasn't going in. ------------------ Wiith regard to Devyn playing in the middle and who would play on the right, I noted this on the Rutgers match comment thread: I went back and looked at the last time Smrek was on the floor during Maryland, to she if she obviously had twisted or pulled anything, and I didn't see anything. What I did notice was that through a number of points and rotations played during the 4th and 5th sets, when Smrek and Devyn were on the floor together, they switched positions: Devyn was playing middle and Smrek was playing right. And I don't mean a criss-cross during a slide. Hilley went on an extended serving run during the 4th set and for each point, the defensive allignment was Devyn middle and Smrek right. (I did a quick spot-check of the 1st and 2nd sets and did not see that switch) So, when Smrek is available again - fingers crossed, Friday - will we see that switch "formalized"? Will we se it less formally as an occasional "surprise" for the other teams? Will it depend on the relative strengths of a particular opponent? Stay tuned... Why would they repeat a losing strategy? Well, they did it in the 4th set, and won the 4th set. And I'd have to go check the game video again, but I think the score was 10-7 Wisconsin leading in the 5th when Smrek rotated out. As I said, I don't think they had done it earlier than the 4th set (but I did not look again at every bit of the first three sets). So.... more generally than that, Smrek replacing Hart has only been the reality for two weekends now, and they're still adjusting to that reality?
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 20:13:52 GMT -5
Devyn Robinson will be an Olympian at MB. If losing to Maryland was what it took for Sheffield to move her back to her natural position, it was worth it for the Badgers. I think the bigger issue or question is what to do about the right side if Devyn is at MB, both when Smrek is available and not available. Not who is the better middle right now, but what is the better lineup of players, what is the better team.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 21:04:42 GMT -5
Devyn Robinson will be an Olympian at MB. If losing to Maryland was what it took for Sheffield to move her back to her natural position, it was worth it for the Badgers. I think the bigger issue or question is what to do about the right side if Devyn is at MB, both when Smrek is available and not available. Not who is the better middle right now, but what is the better lineup of players, what is the better team. That depends on who you are. The biggest issue for me is Devyn and her development for the NT.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 21:07:29 GMT -5
I think the bigger issue or question is what to do about the right side if Devyn is at MB, both when Smrek is available and not available. Not who is the better middle right now, but what is the better lineup of players, what is the better team. That depends on who you are. The biggest issue for me is Devyn and her development for the NT. LOL. Pretty sure the guy making the decisions has other priorities.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 21:10:55 GMT -5
That depends on who you are. The biggest issue for me is Devyn and her development for the NT. LOL. Pretty sure the guy making the decisions has other priorities. He cares about both.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Sept 27, 2021 21:23:16 GMT -5
What’s the story with Demps? I thought from what I saw during the tournament last spring she’d have an impact this fall/moving forward.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 21:23:51 GMT -5
LOL. Pretty sure the guy making the decisions has other priorities. He cares about both. Undoubtedly. But if his priority is "Devyn on the national team", and that goal is best served by her playing MB, then the last year and a quarter would have had Devyn playing MB.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 21:27:10 GMT -5
What’s the story with Demps? I thought from what I saw during the tournament last spring she’d have an impact this fall/moving forward. As much as anything else, COVID has made for a "crowded" team and lineup; if Dana and Loberg had gone on as "scheduled", Demps would be on the floor somewhere. IMO, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 21:55:21 GMT -5
So, somebody who knows more about serve receive patterns etc (and that won't be hard, believe me) tell me if this is somehow 'normal' or readily explainable. I'm having a quick look at the Rutgers stats with Civita at libero instead of Barnes. And the stats show that Civita had nine serve receptions (with one error) while receiving in six rotations, while Barnes had eight receptions (with one error) in only three rotations and Boyer had fourteen (with two errors) in three rotations. Wouldn't it generally be the case that the libero has more receptions than any others, if for no other reason than she's back there twice as much? Does the other team try that hard to avoid the libero, no matter who it is who's wearing the jersey? The libero gets fewer than I might expect because she's middle-back, and the other team is serving the lines? I'm trying to understand the decision to switch Barnes and Civita. They're both great, and I don't have any particular problem with the decision, I'm just curious about why, and why now? TIA After you posted that Barnes was "the top libero in the country" I can see why this would confuse you.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 22:09:00 GMT -5
So, somebody who knows more about serve receive patterns etc (and that won't be hard, believe me) tell me if this is somehow 'normal' or readily explainable. I'm having a quick look at the Rutgers stats with Civita at libero instead of Barnes. And the stats show that Civita had nine serve receptions (with one error) while receiving in six rotations, while Barnes had eight receptions (with one error) in only three rotations and Boyer had fourteen (with two errors) in three rotations. Wouldn't it generally be the case that the libero has more receptions than any others, if for no other reason than she's back there twice as much? Does the other team try that hard to avoid the libero, no matter who it is who's wearing the jersey? The libero gets fewer than I might expect because she's middle-back, and the other team is serving the lines? I'm trying to understand the decision to switch Barnes and Civita. They're both great, and I don't have any particular problem with the decision, I'm just curious about why, and why now? TIA After you posted that Barnes was "the top libero in the country" I can see why this would confuse you. Again, that was a shorthand for what AVCA said in their end-of-season awards last spring. Take your argument to them. I'm not interested in your trolling.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2021 23:04:21 GMT -5
Again, that was a shorthand for what AVCA said in their end-of-season awards last spring. Take your argument to them. I'm not interested in your trolling. Again, they didn't mistake their awards for a "rating"... Only you did that. But at least you admitted you don't know anything about serve receive.
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Post by robtearle on Sept 27, 2021 23:22:45 GMT -5
Again, that was a shorthand for what AVCA said in their end-of-season awards last spring. Take your argument to them. I'm not interested in your trolling. Again, they didn't mistake their awards for a "rating"... Only you did that. But at least you admitted you don't know anything about serve receive. So educate me. I'm trying to understand the decision to switch Barnes and Civita. They're both great, and I don't have any particular problem with the decision, I'm just curious about why, and why now? (And when something has a "first" and a "second" and a "third", by definition that is a "rating".)
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Post by dodger on Sept 27, 2021 23:35:44 GMT -5
Again, they didn't mistake their awards for a "rating"... Only you did that. But at least you admitted you don't know anything about serve receive. So educate me. I'm trying to understand the decision to switch Barnes and Civita. They're both great, and I don't have any particular problem with the decision, I'm just curious about why, and why now? (And when something has a "first" and a "second" and a "third", by definition that is a "rating".) Cevita has better; SR numbers, both percentage and RE’s per set, serving ace to error, : And shef likes her court awareness and readimg abilities
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 27, 2021 23:46:20 GMT -5
There are pluses and minuses to both Civita and Barnes relative to each other. I think Sheff figures the badgers will be great by the end of the year, but he needs to find out his best lineup now - especially after losing Hart just before the B1G season. That creates a whole series of decisions. A large part of those come down to how they respond to being down so he's going to keep players in as long as possible to see how they respond.
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