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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 11, 2021 22:27:44 GMT -5
Do we think the B1G champion won’t get a top 4 seed? Or do we think the badgers can’t win the B1G without winning out? If they don’t win out, there could be 2 or 3 B1G champs. One of them would probably get a top 4, but it would probably be the one that beat us… Well. If the badgers lose to Nebraska, or to Minnesota, they have already beaten them each once. RPI futures has us finishing above Baylor even if the badgers lose one and Baylor wins out. Honestly though, the badgers are at home for 5 of the last 6. Despite their problems, that is an advantage. They just have to win the B1G and they are odds on favorite to do that. They could do it outright even with one more loss, though it is harder. |
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Nov 11, 2021 22:46:22 GMT -5
It’s the Minnesota match that worries me now.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Nov 12, 2021 9:17:27 GMT -5
Recent record counts more.
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Post by buckyupbuttercup on Nov 13, 2021 10:44:20 GMT -5
That was depressing last night. Badgers did not come to play - bad choices and bad execution. Sheffield was not pushing the right buttons either.
Are we back to smrek in the middle, robinson on the right, and then giving up on demps in the back row while leveraging izzy more without gio? Demps serve can't be trusted in a big spot.
Still have some time to right the ship. Hart sure has been a big loss though.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 13, 2021 10:55:48 GMT -5
That was depressing last night. Badgers did not come to play - bad choices and bad execution. Sheffield was not pushing the right buttons either. Are we back to smrek in the middle, robinson on the right, and then giving up on demps in the back row while leveraging izzy more without gio? Demps serve can't be trusted in a big spot. Still have some time to right the ship. Hart sure has been a big loss though. What buttons would you have liked him to push? |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 13, 2021 11:01:12 GMT -5
That just seems odd. I'd imagine there is more to the story than we will ever know. When we pulled Hilley out of Minnesota, there was at least the immediate playing time angle. Hopefully they are laying some serious groundwork for 2024. They look to have the immediate talent for the near future, before a serious restocking is needed. They also currently appear a little short on depth for the next couple of years, but that shouldn't be a major issue. It seems very odd to me that some of the big 2023 commits didn't choose the Badgers.... like the girls committed to Texas. They know they may ride the bench vs. having a higher chance of playing at Wisconsin. They don't seem to have a big recruiting presence from what I have heard from some high recruits. They seem to want the girls to come to them. Wisconsin recruits as hard as anyone, signs a ton of top kids and is in the mix with kids they don’t sign. Not sure what you’re talking about. |
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Post by volleyparent on Nov 13, 2021 11:06:02 GMT -5
It seems very odd to me that some of the big 2023 commits didn't choose the Badgers.... like the girls committed to Texas. They know they may ride the bench vs. having a higher chance of playing at Wisconsin. They don't seem to have a big recruiting presence from what I have heard from some high recruits. They seem to want the girls to come to them. Wisconsin recruits as hard as anyone, signs a ton of top kids and is in the mix with kids they don’t sign. Not sure what you’re talking about. I'm not the first person to wonder why the Badgers didn't get any 2023 commitments other than Damrow, who committed a few years ago. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 13, 2021 11:06:28 GMT -5
It seems very odd to me that some of the big 2023 commits didn't choose the Badgers.... like the girls committed to Texas. They know they may ride the bench vs. having a higher chance of playing at Wisconsin. They don't seem to have a big recruiting presence from what I have heard from some high recruits. They seem to want the girls to come to them. Wisconsin recruits as hard as anyone, signs a ton of top kids and is in the mix with kids they don’t sign. Not sure what you’re talking about. bbc has been touting this recruiting line specifically regarding Wurcherer in the thread. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 13, 2021 11:10:31 GMT -5
Wisconsin recruits as hard as anyone, signs a ton of top kids and is in the mix with kids they don’t sign. Not sure what you’re talking about. I'm not the first person to wonder why the Badgers didn't get any 2023 commitments other than Damrow, who committed a few years ago. This could be down to all sorts of things. Possible playing time, fit, weather... A single year sample is a small numbers game. Wrobel is good. If Anthouli had decided to come the badgers would have been formidable next year. Each person makes decisions according to their situation. Sheff and co have recruited pretty well. Not as well as Texas and Nebraska in terms of prep rankings, perhaps, but well. |
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Post by buckyupbuttercup on Nov 13, 2021 11:12:29 GMT -5
That was depressing last night. Badgers did not come to play - bad choices and bad execution. Sheffield was not pushing the right buttons either. Are we back to smrek in the middle, robinson on the right, and then giving up on demps in the back row while leveraging izzy more without gio? Demps serve can't be trusted in a big spot. Still have some time to right the ship. Hart sure has been a big loss though. What buttons would you have liked him to push? Well, I didn't say i had all the answers, but did mention robinson back outside and ending the demps back row experiment. Not trying to be overly critical, but seems obvious that dropping Jardine in last night and sending Demps back out to serve in key spots, when she was already shaky, didn't exactly pan out in hindsight. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 13, 2021 11:20:40 GMT -5
What buttons would you have liked him to push? Well, I didn't say i had all the answers, but did mention robinson back outside and ending the demps back row experiment. Not trying to be overly critical, but seems obvious that dropping Jardine in last night and sending Demps back out to serve in key spots, when she was already shaky, didn't exactly pan in hindsight. Well, Demps had some good serving runs elsewhere in the match. The Jardine ploy was only for a few points during a bad run. Sheffield didn't have a lot of different options there. The basic problem that Sheffield faces with Civita out is that the badgers are again prone to being broken down in serve receive, which takes away their two most potent weapons in Robinson and Rettke when OOS, and making it easy to key on them at other times. The solution to that is a BR attack that is easier to set out of system and keeps the block guessing in system. That's why Sheffield is trying to work Demps in there. But of course, if they are bashful about using the backrow attack, as Hilley often seems to be, then they don't get much upside, and they are passing two a lot of the time. I understand what Sheffield is trying to get working, and I also get that it will take some time to implement. The players just need to have a little more belief. This is an excellent team, but sometimes they just don't play like they entirely believe it. I find it incredibly frustrating to watch at times. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Nov 13, 2021 11:34:35 GMT -5
It's also true that, despite Barnes' occasional heroics, the badger floor defense has really fallen off since that Nebraska match when it was truly excellent. That's down to Civita being missing, IMO.
Another thing to note this year is that teams are targeting Hilley way more in attack to take her out of the point. Purdue has made a particular point of that (>4D/S). PSU and Nebraska tried it as well. The out of system setting/attacking hasn't been good enough to get past the set Purdue block. There is possibly a case for bringing Izzy back in to play D and take second balls, though I'm not sure how much of a difference it would make.
On the other hand, teams have ups and downs during the year. The badgers got a really good Purdue squad twice during a down time. Bad luck, but it shouldn't be a reason to panic, despite my frustration at having only had time to watch them during these down periods in the B1G this year.
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Post by robtearle on Nov 13, 2021 16:21:15 GMT -5
What buttons would you have liked him to push? Well, I didn't say i had all the answers, but did mention robinson back outside and ending the demps back row experiment. Not trying to be overly critical, but seems obvious that dropping Jardine in last night and sending Demps back out to serve in key spots, when she was already shaky, didn't exactly pan out in hindsight. In terms of submitted lineup and substitution pattern, Robinson was certainly the middle and Smrek was the opposite. Whether they 'criss-crossed' during a given rotation might be another story (but that wouldn't be all that uncommon). Sheffield specifically mentioned during his weekly press meeting last Monday how well the team had scored last weekend with Demps at the service line. Demps was subbing for Smrek at opposite, so with that it is either Demps serving or Smrek serving, take your pick; anything else involves more substitution, and UW already pushes the limit on subs. But that could all become moot when Civita returns, and she took 'full' part in warmups last night, albeit at less than 'full speed'. |
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Post by Wiswell on Nov 13, 2021 16:52:42 GMT -5
It’s the Minnesota match that worries me now. And the majority of those remaining. No biggie. They could be 14-6. |
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Post by dodger on Nov 13, 2021 18:01:10 GMT -5
It’s the Minnesota match that worries me now. And the majority of those remaining. No biggie. They could be 14-6. Wiscy in definite jeopardy of a conference champ: they need to finish strong to hold a seed and have a conference champ chance! |
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