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Post by bbg95 on Jun 22, 2021 13:20:33 GMT -5
This is an interesting development. I think Sha'Carri definitely would have made the team in the 200m, but it seems like she's going all-in on trying to win the 100m in Tokyo. In terms of her expected increase in fame and the money that goes along with it, the difference between gold and silver in that event is massive, and it's the biggest event of the whole Olympics except for the men's 100m final. If she could pull off the 100/200 double, that would be even better, but she'll probably have more competition in the 200 than the 100. So I think it makes some sense for her to focus on the 100, especially since she's only 21. On the other hand, the Olympic 100m final will be held before the 200m qualifying begins, so it seems fairly low-risk. I guess we'll see how it works out.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 23, 2021 13:04:02 GMT -5
Interesting move. Some of the better-at-200- runners looked really good in Week 1, so I think the team will be fine. Kind of odd she didn't want to go for it, but I don't think she would have gotten a medal in Tokyo and that's what really matters for big-time sponsors, so better for her to focus on 100 and the relay.
Sad to see Jenny Simpson not make it for one last hurrah.
Excited to see forever-bae Devon Allen try to make it in the hurdles this weekend.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 23, 2021 13:15:16 GMT -5
Interesting move. Some of the better-at-200- runners looked really good in Week 1, so I think the team will be fine. Kind of odd she didn't want to go for it, but I don't think she would have gotten a medal in Tokyo and that's what really matters for big-time sponsors, so better for her to focus on 100 and the relay. Sad to see Jenny Simpson not make it for one last hurrah. Excited to see forever-bae Devon Allen try to make it in the hurdles this weekend. Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think Sha'Carri's decision makes sense. If she was unlikely to medal in the 200 in Tokyo, then there really isn't a lot of value in running it. She might as well save all her energy and effort and put it into winning the race that can turn turn her into a true superstar overnight. Instead of working on running the curve in the 200, she can focus on improving her start, which is probably the thing she needs to do the most.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 23, 2021 14:07:45 GMT -5
Reading up some more on Houlihan, it seems like the most likely explanation isn't that she was straight up taking nandrolone, as that's a steroid that wouldn't be all that beneficial to a distance runner. More importantly, it's a steroid that stays in the body for a long time and is also easily detectable on tests. No way would a pro athlete be dumb enough to take it intentionally. Rather, it seems likely that she was taking testosterone in low enough levels as to not exceed the maximum allowable level of the test. But testosterone sometimes can be contaminated with nandrolone if the lab making it doesn't have the best quality control (i.e. it doesn't properly clean the equipment after making the nandrolone, so trace amounts are left to contaminate the testosterone). Nandrolone is something a distance runner would take. Helps recovery and prevents injury, allowing harder training. This is one of those red herring talking points the Bowerman camp is throwing out there, and, frankly, they've lost all credibility once they said they'd never heard of it. The contamination in another shadily made drug is possible as well, but she could easily have been orally microdosing nandrolone and just got unlucky with test timing or messed up her dosage. Houlihan was also getting tested more regularly than others of similar caliber - which indicates there was something suspicious in both her progression and her prior results (she may have been skirting the line in several tests before too). Also, Bowerman (Shelby's training group and coach) had some interesting results Week 1- Evan Jager, who was probably after Shelby their top medal favorite, scratched right before with "injury," as did Collen Quigley. In the 10K they had huge upset win from Woody Kincaid of all people and went 1-2 in the race despite their top runner Lomong getting hurt. They also went 1-2 in the Women's 5K, but that was more expected.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 23, 2021 14:13:24 GMT -5
Reading up some more on Houlihan, it seems like the most likely explanation isn't that she was straight up taking nandrolone, as that's a steroid that wouldn't be all that beneficial to a distance runner. More importantly, it's a steroid that stays in the body for a long time and is also easily detectable on tests. No way would a pro athlete be dumb enough to take it intentionally. Rather, it seems likely that she was taking testosterone in low enough levels as to not exceed the maximum allowable level of the test. But testosterone sometimes can be contaminated with nandrolone if the lab making it doesn't have the best quality control (i.e. it doesn't properly clean the equipment after making the nandrolone, so trace amounts are left to contaminate the testosterone). Nandrolone is something a distance runner would take. Helps recovery and prevents injury, allowing harder training. This is one of those red herring talking points the Bowerman camp is throwing out there, and, frankly, they've lost all credibility once they said they'd never heard of it. The contamination in another shadily made drug is possible as well, but she could easily have been orally microdosing nandrolone and just got unlucky with test timing or messed up her dosage. Also, Bowerman (Shelby's training group and coach) had some interesting results Week 1- Evan Jager, who was probably after Shelby their top medal favorite, scratched right before with "injury," as did Collen Quigley. In the 10K they had huge upset win from Woody Kincaid of all people and went 1-2 in the race despite their top runner Lomong getting hurt. They also went 1-2 in the Women's 5K, but that was more expected. Yeah, that's fair. I read up some more after posting that comment, and I hadn't initially considered the possibility that she may have been microdosing with nandrolone orally, which apparently clears out of the body pretty quickly when taken that way. And I didn't mean to give BTC's explanation any kind of credence whatsoever. I just was initially under the impression that nandrolone is too easy to detect and stays in the body for too long and would be a poor choice for that reason. I think Hoolihan is clearly guilty, and BTC's explanations are not credible. I was just trying to figure out exactly what went wrong.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 23, 2021 14:48:00 GMT -5
Also, I think the fact that Hoolihan got popped by the AIU instead of USADA was interesting. I think that an independent organization is much-needed, as I don't trust the national governing bodies at all. Granted, these organizations can get corrupted too (just look at the IOC itself), but still. The AIU has only been in existence since 2017, and I'm hopeful that they will do a better job of catching the dopers than the previous system did. Looking online, I haven't been able to find a whole lot on how effective the AIU has been, as most of the criticism is coming from biased media sources. Like the AP for example, wrote an article claiming that Hoolihan's burrito story is the most likely explanation for the nandrolone in her system. And they're far from the only ones. Actually, my favorite thing about that article was the part where they noted that USADA likely wouldn't have pursued the case. Yeah, no kidding. That's the point.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 24, 2021 15:23:11 GMT -5
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 24, 2021 15:46:26 GMT -5
I love this for Weini Kelati. I don't really expect her to make the team for Tokyo, but she's my favorite college runner ever.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 20:39:31 GMT -5
I dont like this around the curve camera work from NBC.
I dont remember it being like this earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2021 22:38:39 GMT -5
Saunders got a monster throw (19.96) in the shot put to set the meet record..... immediately following it's broken by Jessica Ramsey (20.12)
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 24, 2021 22:49:24 GMT -5
Exciting competition in the women's shot put final. The women's steeplechase final is about to start. Should be a good race.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 24, 2021 23:05:31 GMT -5
Coburn and Frerichs finished 1 and 2 to no surprise. Wayment was actually fourth with a 9:23.09, which smashed her personal best by over eight seconds and is faster than Frerichs' collegiate record. Yeah, she really didn't run the best tactical race at outdoors. She should have won that race pretty easily.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 26, 2021 12:38:39 GMT -5
The women's 10K was rescheduled to this morning because of the excessive heat in Eugene, and Emily Sisson just ran a trials record of 31:03.83 that beat the previous mark by more than five seconds. Sisson was really impressive, as she led most of the way and dropped the rest of the field with around four laps to go. Karissa Schweizer finished in second place to make the team in both the 5K and the 10k. It was also nice to see Alicia Monson make the team in third place. I followed her a bit when she was at Wisconsin in college. She finished second behind Weini Kelati at cross country nationals in 2019. Speaking of which, I saw that Kelati faded about halfway through the race, but I didn't realize that she was actually a DNF. I wonder if she got hurt during the race.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 16:17:23 GMT -5
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 26, 2021 16:38:40 GMT -5
Here is who Track & Field News has in their form chart: 1. Kendell Williams 2. Annie Kunz 3. Taliyah Brooks 4. Ashtin Mahler 5. Erica Bougard 6. Riley Cooks 7. Michelle Atherley 8. Anna Hall 9. Chari Hawkins 10. Erin Marsh
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