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Post by bbg95 on Jun 7, 2021 15:26:41 GMT -5
This is a big time of year for track and field. The NCAA outdoor nationals are this week from Wednesday to Saturday. The US Olympic Trials start at the end of next week. And of course, the Olympics themselves are right around the corner. Earlier in the year, the NCAA indoor nationals were held in March, with Oregon winning on the men's side and Arkansas winning on the women's side. Just two days later, the cross country nationals were held, with Northern Arizona winning its fourth men's title in five years and BYU winning its fifth women's title and first since their dynasty in the late 90s and early 2000s.
It will be interesting to see if any collegiate records fall this week. I'm not sure exactly which records may be in trouble, but I do think that Courtney Wayment has a look at the women's steeplechase record of 9:24:41 set by Courtney Frehrichs in 2016. A little over a month ago, Wayment ran a 9:31:37, which is the fifth-fastest in NCAA history, and she hadn't run a steeplechase since 2017. A seven second improvement definitely seems possible.
And speaking of fast times, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce just ran a 10.63, which is the fastest non-FloJo time ever.
Also, Sifan Hassan broke Almaz Ayana's 10K world record by more than 10 seconds, which is incredible. Ayana's performance at the 2016 Olympics in which she blew away the field and dragged most of them to a slew of personal bests and national records was one of the most impressive things I'd ever seen.
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Post by hammer on Jun 7, 2021 15:40:45 GMT -5
This is a big time of year for track and field. The NCAA outdoor track and field nationals are this week from Wednesday to Saturday. The US Olympic Trials start at the end of next week. And of course, the Olympics themselves are right around the corner. Earlier in the year, the NCAA indoor track and field nationals were held in March, with Oregon winning on the men's side and Arkansas winning on the women's side. Just two days later, the cross country nationals were held, with Northern Arizona winning its fourth men's title in five years and BYU winning its fifth women's title and first since their dynasty in the late 90s and early 2000s. It will be interesting to see if any collegiate records fall this week. I'm not sure exactly which records may be in trouble, but I do think that Courtney Wayment has a look at the women's steeplechase record of 9:24:41 set by Courtney Frehrichs in 2016. A little over a month ago, Wayment ran a 9:31:37, which is the fifth-fastest in NCAA history, and she hadn't run a steeplechase since 2017. A seven second improvement definitely seems possible. And speaking of fast times, Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce just ran a 10.63, which is the fastest non-FloJo time ever. Also, Sifan Hassan broke Almaz Ayana's 10000M record by more than 10 seconds, which is incredible. Ayana's performance at the 2016 Olympics in which she blew away the field and dragged most of them to a slew of personal bests and national records was one of the most impressive things I'd ever seen. It's looking like no gold in the 100m sprint for team USA. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 15:54:41 GMT -5
Athing Mu from A&M is going to break the 400 record....and she's an 800 runner just focusing on the 400 for speed work in advance of the Olympic trials.
LSU is the favorite for the men's title, they have a great jumper and a couple of good sprinters who may just do enough to put them out of range. Oregon probably doesn't have enough on the men's side to make it to tbeat them out - they chose to have most of their distance guys focus on 1 race (Hocker's doing 2 I think) and IMO are leaving points on the board by not having more double up but this approach probably makes a second place more comfortable. But Hayward Magic/Home Field advantage might give them a chance if LSU falters.
Women's side is going to be close between A&M and USC, with LSU and maybe a couple of others having an outside shot. Oregon women are a little thin at the very elite level this year so won't compete like they usually do. Don't have a good mid-distance runner (when we normally own the 800) and only one sprinter who will score points. BYU could place really highly - I could see them sweeping the distance races.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 15:57:22 GMT -5
BTW, T&F News form charts are here - trackandfieldnews.com/formcharts/These always have some variation but I think this year will be more than normal. Weird schedule this year; hard to tell who's peaking. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 7, 2021 16:18:16 GMT -5
Athing Mu from A&M is going to break the 400 record....and she's an 800 runner just focusing on the 400 for speed work in advance of the Olympic trials. LSU is the favorite for the men's title, they have a great jumper and a couple of good sprinters who may just do enough to put them out of range. Oregon probably doesn't have enough on the men's side to make it to tbeat them out - they chose to have most of their distance guys focus on 1 race (Hocker's doing 2 I think) and IMO are leaving points on the board by not having more double up but this approach probably makes a second place more comfortable. But Hayward Magic/Home Field advantage might give them a chance if LSU falters. Women's side is going to be close between A&M and USC, with LSU and maybe a couple of others having an outside shot. Oregon women are a little thin at the very elite level this year so won't compete like they usually do. Don't have a good mid-distance runner (when we normally own the 800) and only one sprinter who will score points. BYU could place really highly - I could see them sweeping the distance races. Yeah, Juvaughn Harrison should win both the high jump and long jump. And Tyra Gittens should win the heptathlon and score a lot of points in the jumps as well. As for BYU, in addition to Wayment in the steeplechase, Whitni Orton is the favorite in the 5K and could do some damage in the 1500 as well. There's no DMR at outdoor nationals, though, and that was basically 10 free points for BYU at indoors. I never bet against Diljeet Taylor, though. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 16:22:20 GMT -5
Athing Mu from A&M is going to break the 400 record....and she's an 800 runner just focusing on the 400 for speed work in advance of the Olympic trials. LSU is the favorite for the men's title, they have a great jumper and a couple of good sprinters who may just do enough to put them out of range. Oregon probably doesn't have enough on the men's side to make it to tbeat them out - they chose to have most of their distance guys focus on 1 race (Hocker's doing 2 I think) and IMO are leaving points on the board by not having more double up but this approach probably makes a second place more comfortable. But Hayward Magic/Home Field advantage might give them a chance if LSU falters. Women's side is going to be close between A&M and USC, with LSU and maybe a couple of others having an outside shot. Oregon women are a little thin at the very elite level this year so won't compete like they usually do. Don't have a good mid-distance runner (when we normally own the 800) and only one sprinter who will score points. BYU could place really highly - I could see them sweeping the distance races. Yeah, Juvaughn Harrison should win both the high jump and long jump. And Tyra Gittens should win the heptathlon and score a lot of points in the jumps as well. As for BYU, in addition to Wayment in the steeplechase, Whitni Orton is the favorite in the 5K and could do some damage in the 1500 as well. There's no DMR at outdoor nationals, though, and that was basically 10 free points for BYU at indoors. I never bet against Diljeet Taylor, though. I thought Anna Camp looked really comfortable in the regionals at 1500. Wouldn't be surprised to see her make a move there too. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 16:24:49 GMT -5
I also have to say I dislike the change a few years ago to the "men's day" and "women's day." I guess it's better for TV & following the title chase, but it really hurts the opportunities for athletes to double/triple events, and those were always my favorite storylines.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 16:28:38 GMT -5
Shelby Houlihan got me into track for awhile. Idk if she's still competing (I think she is)
I like watching track but is it never on TV? I've seen it here and there on Peacock (but i don't pay a ton of attention)
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 7, 2021 16:30:16 GMT -5
Shelby Houlihan got me into track for awhile. Idk if she's still competing (I think she is) I like watching track but is it never on TV? I've seen it here and there on Peacock (but i don't pay a ton of attention) It's not on that much, but outdoor nationals will be on the ESPN family of networks. The broadcast schedule is here. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 16:30:45 GMT -5
Shelby Houlihan got me into track for awhile. Idk if she's still competing (I think she is) I like watching track but is it never on TV? I've seen it here and there on Peacock (but i don't pay a ton of attention) Houlihan is the best American medal hope in the 1500 this Summer. But like the rest of the field, she's gonna get destroyed by Sifan. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 16:33:13 GMT -5
Are the USA trials soon?
edit: i read OP never mind lol
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Post by c4ndlelight on Jun 7, 2021 17:26:17 GMT -5
Also, Sifan Hassan broke Almaz Ayana's 10K world record by more than 10 seconds, which is incredible. Ayana's performance at the 2016 Olympics in which she blew away the field and dragged most of them to a slew of personal bests and national records was one of the most impressive things I'd ever seen. Sifan is crushing the records of the "EPOpians" in her what, fourth? best event.....not suspicious at all...... BTW, what's fun about the 10K record, is back in the early 90s when the Chinese came out of nowhere, their coach Ma attributed the success to special elixirs of turtle blood and caterpillar juice that he tried to hock and make a profit from. It later came out the caterpillar fungus was junk and he was just doping his runners to the gills.(and the runners revolted against the coach and turned on him/turned him in). High-level track is basically a Cardassian mystery novel - everyone is guilty, the question is who is guilty of what and how. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 7, 2021 17:36:09 GMT -5
Also, Sifan Hassan broke Almaz Ayana's 10K world record by more than 10 seconds, which is incredible. Ayana's performance at the 2016 Olympics in which she blew away the field and dragged most of them to a slew of personal bests and national records was one of the most impressive things I'd ever seen. Sifan is crushing the records of the "EPOpians" in her what, fourth? best event.....not suspicious at all...... BTW, what's fun about the 10K record, is back in the early 90s when the Chinese came out of nowhere, their coach Ma attributed the success to special elixirs of turtle blood and caterpillar juice that he tried to hock and make a profit from. It later came out the caterpillar fungus was junk and he was just doping his runners to the gills.(and the runners revolted against the coach and turned on him/turned him in). High-level track is basically a Cardassian mystery novel - everyone is guilty, the question is who is guilty of what and how. I mean, I'm not naïve about track and field (I can't believe how many people credulously think that Bolt was clean--I actually think the distance records are slightly more believable than the sprint records just because distance races are tactical), but I still like watching it. Another thing that's going on in the distance races is some new technology with the shoes that is contributing to these times. I haven't done that much research on that topic, though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:07:17 GMT -5
wait Bolt wasn't clean?
tell me more.
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Post by bbg95 on Jun 7, 2021 18:09:54 GMT -5
wait Bolt wasn't clean? tell me more. I mean, he never failed a drug test, but that doesn't mean he was clean. I can't quite tell if you're asking seriously or not. I can't prove that he was on PEDs, but I think the chances that he wasn't when almost everyone that he was beating was are nearly impossible. Similar to Lance Armstrong. |
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