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Post by BearClause on Aug 9, 2021 10:57:04 GMT -5
Enh, Barney’s OK. His commentary is like a slice of jalapeño cheese bread - a little acidic, might occasionally give you heartburn, but has a little kick to it. In comparison, most of the other names bandied about on this thread - Blanton, English Guy, Karch etc - are a loaf of Wonderbread. Plus, he always buys Girl Scout cookies from my kids, so there’s that. Not sure who English guy is, but saw a replay of the women's gold medal match on Peacock and both announcers are English. Is that the guy?
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 9, 2021 11:52:08 GMT -5
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 9, 2021 11:56:05 GMT -5
2 comments. One on the topic, one on the ads. 1) I honestly wish we'd just free ourselves of both Barnett and Sunderland. I'd actually love it if we could hire the crew from Hawaii and/or BYU to do commentary. They'd do a much better job would have fun doing it. 2) The ads are annoying, both in number and placement. I've noticed in beach they end up missing points due to the length of the ads. Unacceptable. They also do ads during replays. Maybe just me, but I want to see the video of the call and net touches, hand touches, in/out, etc... not come back and the team is getting ready to serve. Esp when the commentary people have zero clue they were cut away for an ad. So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet?
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Post by olderthandirt on Aug 9, 2021 21:51:59 GMT -5
2 comments. One on the topic, one on the ads. 1) I honestly wish we'd just free ourselves of both Barnett and Sunderland. I'd actually love it if we could hire the crew from Hawaii and/or BYU to do commentary. They'd do a much better job would have fun doing it. 2) The ads are annoying, both in number and placement. I've noticed in beach they end up missing points due to the length of the ads. Unacceptable. They also do ads during replays. Maybe just me, but I want to see the video of the call and net touches, hand touches, in/out, etc... not come back and the team is getting ready to serve. Esp when the commentary people have zero clue they were cut away for an ad. So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? Please keep your bigotry and intolerance to others that are different than your small minded views to yourself. You may think you’re cultured or superior, but trust me you’re not anywhere close. Most religions have outward expressions or symbolism of their faith - Yamaka for Jewish, Burka for Muslims, etc. Catholics believe in the sacrament as Transubstantiation - taking the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ. Focus instead on what your posts reveal as your core strength- snarky and demeaning personal opinion on volleyball players and coaches.
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Post by SportyBucky on Aug 10, 2021 12:22:31 GMT -5
So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? Please keep your bigotry and intolerance to others that are different than your small minded views to yourself. You may think you’re cultured or superior, but trust me you’re not anywhere close. Most religions have outward expressions or symbolism of their faith - Yamaka for Jewish, Burka for Muslims, etc. Catholics believe in the sacrament as Transubstantiation - taking the bread and wine become the body and blood of Christ. Focus instead on what your posts reveal as your core strength- snarky and demeaning personal opinion on volleyball players and coaches. Cults are cool. Place the mark on my forehead. That, and give me my own planet.
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Zazu
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Singin' once again in the rain, snow, hail, fog, smog, mist, haze, sun, wind, etc.
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Post by Zazu on Aug 10, 2021 13:21:49 GMT -5
Loud
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Post by sammyd on Aug 10, 2021 21:04:28 GMT -5
2 comments. One on the topic, one on the ads. 1) I honestly wish we'd just free ourselves of both Barnett and Sunderland. I'd actually love it if we could hire the crew from Hawaii and/or BYU to do commentary. They'd do a much better job would have fun doing it. 2) The ads are annoying, both in number and placement. I've noticed in beach they end up missing points due to the length of the ads. Unacceptable. They also do ads during replays. Maybe just me, but I want to see the video of the call and net touches, hand touches, in/out, etc... not come back and the team is getting ready to serve. Esp when the commentary people have zero clue they were cut away for an ad. So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? Wtf is wrong with you, dude?
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Post by VT Five-0 on Aug 11, 2021 14:41:46 GMT -5
2 comments. One on the topic, one on the ads. 1) I honestly wish we'd just free ourselves of both Barnett and Sunderland. I'd actually love it if we could hire the crew from Hawaii and/or BYU to do commentary. They'd do a much better job would have fun doing it. 2) The ads are annoying, both in number and placement. I've noticed in beach they end up missing points due to the length of the ads. Unacceptable. They also do ads during replays. Maybe just me, but I want to see the video of the call and net touches, hand touches, in/out, etc... not come back and the team is getting ready to serve. Esp when the commentary people have zero clue they were cut away for an ad. So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? Barefoot In Kailua got in trouble for mocking Mormons. Be better.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Aug 11, 2021 15:45:37 GMT -5
2 comments. One on the topic, one on the ads. 1) I honestly wish we'd just free ourselves of both Barnett and Sunderland. I'd actually love it if we could hire the crew from Hawaii and/or BYU to do commentary. They'd do a much better job would have fun doing it. 2) The ads are annoying, both in number and placement. I've noticed in beach they end up missing points due to the length of the ads. Unacceptable. They also do ads during replays. Maybe just me, but I want to see the video of the call and net touches, hand touches, in/out, etc... not come back and the team is getting ready to serve. Esp when the commentary people have zero clue they were cut away for an ad. So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? I can't even figure out what this is in reference to?
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Post by tj1 on Aug 11, 2021 22:03:28 GMT -5
Someone please apologize to Paul Sunderland for having to spend days working with this jerk. Pure class paired with total @#*. He brings zero to the commentary other than childish, snarky comments. Bring on Salima! Salima Rockwell is so much worse then Kevin Barnett it can't even be measured...the two of them together were a BAD duo for Athletes Unlimited. Barnett is not a play-by-play guy, and Salima is terrible at translating what's going on on the court into words, regardless of the role. I actually don't mind him as a play-by-play guy. He's done a lot of volleyball play by play, and I've heard him do basketball, too.
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Post by sammyd on Aug 11, 2021 22:28:43 GMT -5
So we could learn about the virtues of funny underwear, marrying at 16 and going to your own planet? I can't even figure out what this is in reference to? Mocking religious clothing that represents something important to believers, vomiting out a context-free jab at someone that lived 200 years ago for something the poster doesn't understand, and snarky commentary of core doctrines devoid of their actual content for LOLZ, respectively. It's like insulting a Jew if they wear a yarmulke, a Catholic for engaging in infant baptism, and any Christian for believing in a resurrection.
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Post by Spike Town on Aug 11, 2021 22:29:45 GMT -5
Someone please apologize to Paul Sunderland for having to spend days working with this jerk. Pure class paired with total @#*. He brings zero to the commentary other than childish, snarky comments. Bring on Salima! Salima Rockwell is so much worse then Kevin Barnett it can't even be measured...the two of them together were a BAD duo for Athletes Unlimited. Barnett is not a play-by-play guy, and Salima is terrible at translating what's going on on the court into words, regardless of the role. I’m replying to this more so to get the thread back on the original subject matter. Barnett is essentially paid for his schtick. That’s how he keeps working. Salima, while not my favourite, is improving imo. Lastly, and not that you want or need my advice, I don’t think it reflects well on you to be publicly critical of your peers. That sort of thing has a way of coming back around. And I only say this because I like your work.
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rstclaire1
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VLA commentator/podcast host, Purdue alum, Chicago based
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Post by rstclaire1 on Aug 12, 2021 10:44:17 GMT -5
Salima Rockwell is so much worse then Kevin Barnett it can't even be measured...the two of them together were a BAD duo for Athletes Unlimited. Barnett is not a play-by-play guy, and Salima is terrible at translating what's going on on the court into words, regardless of the role. I’m replying to this more so to get the thread back on the original subject matter. Barnett is essentially paid for his schtick. That’s how he keeps working. Salima, while not my favourite, is improving imo. Lastly, and not that you want or need my advice, I don’t think it reflects well on you to be publicly critical of your peers. That sort of thing has a way of coming back around. And I only say this because I like your work. I appreciate that! You're right, it's easy to get infected by the general negativity around the Volleytalk boards. I'll be better about that. Most of my criticism about volleyball broadcasters in general comes from lack of broadcasting skill, not lack of volleyball knowledge. That's why I really like Sunderland and Barnett in general, because in addition to the requisite volleyball knowledge they have the skill to take what they see and turn into words at a professional level. That's the really hard part about commentating volleyball in my opinion, because regardless of how much you know about the game, the game is so fast that verbalizing your thoughts clearly and concisely takes a lot more skill than just knowing the game.
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Post by Reach on Aug 12, 2021 11:07:55 GMT -5
People are never happy with the commentators. It could be much much worse folks.
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Post by Spike Town on Aug 12, 2021 11:23:16 GMT -5
I’m replying to this more so to get the thread back on the original subject matter. Barnett is essentially paid for his schtick. That’s how he keeps working. Salima, while not my favourite, is improving imo. Lastly, and not that you want or need my advice, I don’t think it reflects well on you to be publicly critical of your peers. That sort of thing has a way of coming back around. And I only say this because I like your work. I appreciate that! You're right, it's easy to get infected by the general negativity around the Volleytalk boards. I'll be better about that. Most of my criticism about volleyball broadcasters in general comes from lack of broadcasting skill, not lack of volleyball knowledge. That's why I really like Sunderland and Barnett in general, because in addition to the requisite volleyball knowledge they have the skill to take what they see and turn into words at a professional level. That's the really hard part about commentating volleyball in my opinion, because regardless of how much you know about the game, the game is so fast that verbalizing your thoughts clearly and concisely takes a lot more skill than just knowing the game. Love this. Thanks for the insights Ryan. I hope you have more high profile opportunities going forward. It’s amazing to think that as great as volleyball is, there is still so much potential for it to be better at every level.
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