China vs. Italy | Sat 7/31 | 9:30am ET

[ironhammer]

Jul 31, 2021 10:34:45 GMT -5 tamz said:

Olympics.com indicates that China is still in contention to make the QFs.

Either they made a mistake or wasn't informed of how teams qualify for the elimination round. Or did we all made a mathematical mistake in calculating points?

[tamz]

Jul 31, 2021 10:40:51 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 31, 2021 10:34:45 GMT -5 tamz said:

Olympics.com indicates that China is still in contention to make the QFs.

Either they made a mistake or wasn't informed of how teams qualified. Or did we all made a mathematical mistake in calculating points?

China lead Italy in last action of Day 8
Defending Olympic champions China need a win to avoid being eliminated from the women's volleyball competition, and are currently two sets up against pool B leaders Italy.

This final set has been tight, however, but two hitting errors from Italy now give China a match point at 25-24.

And a third error from Italy! China stay alive in the competition, though they need a win in their final game against Argentina, currently bottom of pool B, plus other results to go their way in order to progress.

The final round of the women's preliminary games are scheduled for Monday 2 August.

[ironhammer]

Jul 31, 2021 10:42:40 GMT -5 tamz said:

Jul 31, 2021 10:40:51 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Either they made a mistake or wasn't informed of how teams qualified. Or did we all made a mathematical mistake in calculating points?

China lead Italy in last action of Day 8
Defending Olympic champions China need a win to avoid being eliminated from the women's volleyball competition, and are currently two sets up against pool B leaders Italy.

This final set has been tight, however, but two hitting errors from Italy now give China a match point at 25-24.

And a third error from Italy! China stay alive in the competition, though they need a win in their final game against Argentina, currently bottom of pool B, plus other results to go their way in order to progress.

The final round of the women's preliminary games are scheduled for Monday 2 August.

Yeah I think they made a mistake there....or are we all wrong here in adding points for  qualification to the next round?

[tamz]

Someone on Weibo commented: Play well in the group stage! Never know what happens with covid.

😑

[winesalot]

Wait, I'm confused. I thought China was out regardless of the outcome of this match. Is that not the case?

[ironhammer]

Jul 31, 2021 10:47:09 GMT -5 tamz said:

Someone on Weibo commented: Play well in the group stage! Never know what happens with covid.

😑

Wait, did ROC players tested positive?!!!

[trojansc]

The Olympics site, and their announcers, have been embarrassing.

China can tie Turkey in matches won and match points. So it goes to to the third tiebreaker, sets ratio. China cannot win sets ratio. They are eliminated.

en.volleyballworld.com/volleyball/competitions/olympics-2020/competition/pool-ranking-criteria

Pool Ranking Criteria

Ranking System
In order to establish the ranking of teams, the following criteria shall be implemented.

1. Number of victories
The teams will be classified in descending order by the number of matches won.

2. Ranking Points
In case of equality in number of matches won the ranking points will be considered.

3. Set ratio
In the case of equality in the number of matches won by two or several teams, they will be classified in descending order by the quotient resulting from the division of the number of all sets won by the number of all sets lost.

4. Points ratio
If the tie persists as per the set ratio, the teams will be classified in descending order by the result of dividing all points scored by the total of points lost during all sets

5. Still tied?
If the tie continues as per the point ratio between two teams, the priority will be given to the team which won the last match between them. When the tie in points ratio is between three or more teams, a new classification of these teams in the terms of points 1, 2 and 3 will be made taking into consideration only the matches in which they were opposed to each other.

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Jul 31, 2021 10:50:53 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 31, 2021 10:47:09 GMT -5 tamz said:

Someone on Weibo commented: Play well in the group stage! Never know what happens with covid.

😑

Wait, did ROC players tested positive?!!!

no. But if someone does, China is the replacement team

[tamz]

Jul 31, 2021 10:50:53 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Jul 31, 2021 10:47:09 GMT -5 tamz said:

Someone on Weibo commented: Play well in the group stage! Never know what happens with covid.

😑

Wait, did ROC players tested positive?!!!

Let’s not blow this toooo out of proportion 😵‍💫

[ironhammer]

Jul 31, 2021 10:52:44 GMT -5 tamz said:

Jul 31, 2021 10:50:53 GMT -5 ironhammer said:

Wait, did ROC players tested positive?!!!

Let’s not blow this toooo out of proportion 😵‍💫

Yeah that would be a crazy scenario. But I supposed stranger things have happened...

[Phaedrus]

In 20/20 hindsight, Sunderland had said that Zhu Ting has been having problems with her hand for 18 months and JLP had said that she would have told her to have the surgery and be ready for 2021, instead she was preparing to play in 2020.

Looking at the way the young Chinese team played in the Italy match and the way the young lefty LS played throughout the tournament, maybe it would have been better to have sat Zhu Ting earlier in pool play to salvage a chance to make it into the brackets.

Of course I am basing it on a single match performance, who knows how the youngsters would have reacted. One thing I noticed was the joy that was on the faces of the Chinese players faces, nothing like playing with no pressure on.

Not questioning JLP, just thinking about an interesting what-if.