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Post by stephenasinjin on Aug 9, 2021 6:54:22 GMT -5
Bruno is retiring, pretty much positive it will be Evandro/Guto and Andre will be staying with George. Not sure what Alison’s plans are long term but for now he and Alvaro are sticking together Can you confirm it will be Duda and Carol? Someone posted that elsewhere and I meant to tag you to ask since you are the expert on Brazilian teams. I like watching them, but Evandro/Guto is disappointing. They will win one every now and then, but I'd love to see the big guy with a partner with whom he could go toe to toe with Norway, Russia and Qatar every week. I’d like to see what Evandro/Alvaro looks like. Also, Latvia is far from done, though Plavins is getting close to done and samoilovs is dropping I think. Tocs/Smedins would be like extremely interesting.
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Post by acrossthepond on Aug 9, 2021 8:08:09 GMT -5
- Lars Flüggen has already retired. Ehlers is looking for a new partner. There is a very good chance that he will team up with Sven Winter (current partner of Alex Walkenhorst) - Doppler/Horst clarified that they will not continue internationally as a team. Doppler said he wants to focus more on his family. It's abit cryptic but it reads as Alex Horst wants to continue
- I always thought Ana Patricia/Duda will be a sure thing after the Olympics. Am I wrong here?
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Post by swift on Aug 9, 2021 8:36:46 GMT -5
Can you confirm it will be Duda and Carol? Someone posted that elsewhere and I meant to tag you to ask since you are the expert on Brazilian teams. I like watching them, but Evandro/Guto is disappointing. They will win one every now and then, but I'd love to see the big guy with a partner with whom he could go toe to toe with Norway, Russia and Qatar every week. I’d like to see what Evandro/Alvaro looks like. Also, Latvia is far from done, though Plavins is getting close to done and samoilovs is dropping I think. Tocs/Smedins would be like extremely interesting. Samoilov and Smedins might continue to play a few more years but I just can't see them being very successful anymore. They are an "old school" team and I don't think you can beat teams such as Norway, Russia you name it without a big blocker and just with finesse. That's what I meant with "done". Herrera/Gavira, Kantor/Losiak and ROSSI/CARAMBULA are kinda in the same boat.
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Post by 23flavors on Aug 9, 2021 13:00:53 GMT -5
Bruno is retiring, pretty much positive it will be Evandro/Guto and Andre will be staying with George. Not sure what Alison’s plans are long term but for now he and Alvaro are sticking together Can you confirm it will be Duda and Carol? Someone posted that elsewhere and I meant to tag you to ask since you are the expert on Brazilian teams. I like watching them, but Evandro/Guto is disappointing. They will win one every now and then, but I'd love to see the big guy with a partner with whom he could go toe to toe with Norway, Russia and Qatar every week. I’m not sure on the women’s side, not as connected to them… though I really like that team of Carol/Duda. I’ll see what I can find out
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Post by stephenasinjin on Aug 9, 2021 14:51:40 GMT -5
I’d like to see what Evandro/Alvaro looks like. Also, Latvia is far from done, though Plavins is getting close to done and samoilovs is dropping I think. Tocs/Smedins would be like extremely interesting. Samoilov and Smedins might continue to play a few more years but I just can't see them being very successful anymore. They are an "old school" team and I don't think you can beat teams such as Norway, Russia you name it without a big blocker and just with finesse. That's what I meant with "done". Herrera/Gavira, Kantor/Losiak and ROSSI/CARAMBULA are kinda in the same boat. The problem with this take is that Tocs’ block touch height is elite. I remember seeing stats within the past 1-2 years where he was top 5 or top 10 in the world in block touch. He also just proved he’s consistent enough to make it to a bronze medal match with an aging partner who’s on his way out. On top of that, Smedins is still an elite player on the fivb while Samoilovs isn’t. So that hypothetical team has the physicality at the net, and they have the consistency and the defense at least on paper, although the physicality is deceiving because Tocs is only 6’ 3” or 6’ 4”.
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Post by swift on Aug 10, 2021 2:30:10 GMT -5
Samoilov and Smedins might continue to play a few more years but I just can't see them being very successful anymore. They are an "old school" team and I don't think you can beat teams such as Norway, Russia you name it without a big blocker and just with finesse. That's what I meant with "done". Herrera/Gavira, Kantor/Losiak and ROSSI/CARAMBULA are kinda in the same boat. The problem with this take is that Tocs’ block touch height is elite. I remember seeing stats within the past 1-2 years where he was top 5 or top 10 in the world in block touch. He also just proved he’s consistent enough to make it to a bronze medal match with an aging partner who’s on his way out. On top of that, Smedins is still an elite player on the fivb while Samoilovs isn’t. So that hypothetical team has the physicality at the net, and they have the consistency and the defense at least on paper, although the physicality is deceiving because Tocs is only 6’ 3” or 6’ 4”. I don't know much about Tocs to be honest but Tocs and Plavins haven't really had any good results recently except for the bronze medal (they are ranked 33th in the world). So I'm not sure whether Tocs would do a whole lot better with Smedins. But it would certainly be interesting to see.
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Post by guest2 on Aug 10, 2021 3:44:56 GMT -5
The problem with this take is that Tocs’ block touch height is elite. I remember seeing stats within the past 1-2 years where he was top 5 or top 10 in the world in block touch. He also just proved he’s consistent enough to make it to a bronze medal match with an aging partner who’s on his way out. On top of that, Smedins is still an elite player on the fivb while Samoilovs isn’t. So that hypothetical team has the physicality at the net, and they have the consistency and the defense at least on paper, although the physicality is deceiving because Tocs is only 6’ 3” or 6’ 4”. I don't know much about Tocs to be honest but Tocs and Plavins haven't really had any good results recently except for the bronze medal (they are ranked 33th in the world). So I'm not sure whether Tocs would do a whole lot better with Smedins. But it would certainly be interesting to see. Any system where Smedins and Evandro both can't find quality partners and also can't just team up is flawed. Imagine having to decide who to serve on that team. On that whimsical note, are any players thinking of switching federations?
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Post by mrknuckle on Aug 10, 2021 5:03:20 GMT -5
I don't know much about Tocs to be honest but Tocs and Plavins haven't really had any good results recently except for the bronze medal (they are ranked 33th in the world). So I'm not sure whether Tocs would do a whole lot better with Smedins. But it would certainly be interesting to see. Any system where Smedins and Evandro both can't find quality partners and also can't just team up is flawed. Imagine having to decide who to serve on that team. On that whimsical note, are any players thinking of switching federations? One of my dream teams would have been prime Smedins and prime Dalhausser. Smedins was really, really good for a while, he was voted best offensive player AND best setter (like Dalhausser and Mol) on the FIVB several times. He carried the much worse Samoilovs to numerous FIVB gold medals. I believe prime Smedins to be one of the best all time, his offense was incredible, so many shots and one of the fastest arms out there.
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Post by swift on Aug 10, 2021 8:44:19 GMT -5
Any system where Smedins and Evandro both can't find quality partners and also can't just team up is flawed. Imagine having to decide who to serve on that team. On that whimsical note, are any players thinking of switching federations? One of my dream teams would have been prime Smedins and prime Dalhausser. Smedins was really, really good for a while, he was voted best offensive player AND best setter (like Dalhausser and Mol) on the FIVB several times. He carried the much worse Samoilovs to numerous FIVB gold medals. I believe prime Smedins to be one of the best all time, his offense was incredible, so many shots and one of the fastest arms out there. yeah he was really really good and still is a good player however in recent years he hasn't looked quite as sharp to me as he used to. He seems to make more mistakes now than a few years ago. I looked him up and he's not old yet (34 years) so I don't know what else could be the reasons for it. Maybe injuries that I don't know of (?), maybe the bigger blockers have affected his game or maybe he's just been with Samoilov for too long. Idk
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Post by acrossthepond on Aug 10, 2021 9:03:36 GMT -5
One of my dream teams would have been prime Smedins and prime Dalhausser. Smedins was really, really good for a while, he was voted best offensive player AND best setter (like Dalhausser and Mol) on the FIVB several times. He carried the much worse Samoilovs to numerous FIVB gold medals. I believe prime Smedins to be one of the best all time, his offense was incredible, so many shots and one of the fastest arms out there. yeah he was really really good and still is a good player however in recent years he hasn't looked quite as sharp to me as he used to. He seems to make more mistakes now than a few years ago. I looked him up and he's not old yet (34 years) so I don't know what else could be the reasons for it. Maybe injuries that I don't know of (?), maybe the bigger blockers have affected his game or maybe he's just been with Samoilov for too long. Idk I agree. He makes more mistakes than he used too. He used to be way more steady in his performances, nowadays he has some downs every now and then. The lack of physical presence at the net also hurts him and Samoilovs.
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Post by bvbllr on Aug 12, 2021 8:32:57 GMT -5
Seeing Moritz Pristauz block in relief of a not fully recovered Ermacora I wonder if he shouldn’t move on and team up with a technically more versatile player. Split blocking with Seidl or even try a few tournaments as blocker for Horst. Obviously not ideal that he has to act as an undersized blocker but seems like he is in a situation where he could clearly play at at higher level but is limited by the lack of Austrian blockers. He’d be someone who could greatly benefit if playing with partners from other nations becomes a possibility.
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Post by acrossthepond on Aug 13, 2021 5:26:20 GMT -5
I fully agree, it's a bit sad that Austria's 2 best players are currently Pristauz and Waller who are both defenders. All blockers are a tier below them. I don't think that Horst will still be a viable option in the future.
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Post by bvbllr on Aug 16, 2021 14:47:54 GMT -5
Looks like we get interesting international pairings across different countries at the upcoming king of the court events: - Ludwig is playing with Anouk at one event - Ludwig plays with Karvcenoka at the other event - Carambula and Tocs - Pristauz plays with Penninga - Ranghieri and Sam Schachter - Kozuch and Menegatti
I know it’s a very different format but maybe it paves the way for more flexibility on other tournaments in the future.
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Post by ajm on Aug 16, 2021 19:54:45 GMT -5
So the KOC posted all entrants for next weekend in Utrecht but only one American player, Schermerhorn, who is playing with a Brazilian.
Hamburg is supposed to be this weekend but they still haven’t announced the full field. Wonder if that event is in jeopardy.
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Post by tafit on Sept 5, 2021 14:57:08 GMT -5
Apparently Nicolai-Lupo are going separate ways after this season. It's quite surprising, since they don't have better alternatives IMHO.
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