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Post by guest2 on Dec 6, 2021 20:30:53 GMT -5
Honestly, f*ck him - it's too bad more players on tour don't try to publicly humiliate him incessantly. She was f*cking 12 and he acts as if this was a college hookup gone wrong. www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dutch-volleyball-star-who-raped-10035342"He has defended his actions, saying he is "not a sex monster" for raping the girl known only as Miss A. to protect her identity. Van de Velde said: "I do want to correct all nonsense which has been written about me when I was locked up. I did not read anything of it, on purpose. But I understand that it was quite bad, that I have been branded as a sex monster, as a paedophile. "That I am not, really not. "Everyone can have an opinion about me, but it is only fair if they also know my side of the story." "Van de Velde said: "It is all my fault. Even if I had her permission, I should have known better. "We both had our problems, that gave a sort of mutual affection. For the rest, I do not understand why I let it come to this point." Van de Velde admitted three counts of rape against a child in court and was sentenced to four years in prison on 21st March 2016." "Van de Velde said: "In England the punishments are a lot higher, they were laughing about my four years. "'Baby sentence' is what they called it." Despite his early release, Van de Velde still feels sorry for himself, explaining how he wept in an Amsterdam prison while watching the fireworks on New Year's Eve." Ugh. He is DISGUSTING. That said, I don't consider The Mirror a reliable source.
I kind of try to ignore him. I also think that everyone involved should give him a much colder treatment. I'm sorry for Kim. Wasn't she a policewoman? Is she still?
I'd like to see some of the so-called volleyball journalists ask the other players, especially those who have children around the age of the girl he raped, how they feel about being on tour with him, and being part of a community that has embraced him, that has no issue with him participating. You could start with Casey, Kerri etc. (I won't mention Gibb, since he played with Taylor and we can probably guess where he stands on the issue of inappropriate conduct with a minor) It really is an awful commentary on the FIVB tour that this is well known and he has not been ostracized.
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Post by hbmb10k on Dec 7, 2021 2:14:10 GMT -5
This is what we need. Americans going around shaming Europeans for not having harsher prison sentences. You really want to lecture citizens of other countries on what the correct level of shunning is of released prisoners? Perhaps they act humane towards him because they believe that makes the World a better place? I'm pretty sure they surpass us in every measure of human development save for household income. So if I heard Casey or Kerri bring that subject up to chastise the rest of the tour as a fellow American I want to go crawl under a rock
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 7, 2021 8:18:48 GMT -5
Honestly, f*ck him - it's too bad more players on tour don't try to publicly humiliate him incessantly. She was f*cking 12 and he acts as if this was a college hookup gone wrong. www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/dutch-volleyball-star-who-raped-10035342"He has defended his actions, saying he is "not a sex monster" for raping the girl known only as Miss A. to protect her identity. Van de Velde said: "I do want to correct all nonsense which has been written about me when I was locked up. I did not read anything of it, on purpose. But I understand that it was quite bad, that I have been branded as a sex monster, as a paedophile. "That I am not, really not. "Everyone can have an opinion about me, but it is only fair if they also know my side of the story." "Van de Velde said: "It is all my fault. Even if I had her permission, I should have known better. "We both had our problems, that gave a sort of mutual affection. For the rest, I do not understand why I let it come to this point." Van de Velde admitted three counts of rape against a child in court and was sentenced to four years in prison on 21st March 2016." "Van de Velde said: "In England the punishments are a lot higher, they were laughing about my four years. "'Baby sentence' is what they called it." Despite his early release, Van de Velde still feels sorry for himself, explaining how he wept in an Amsterdam prison while watching the fireworks on New Year's Eve." Ugh. He is DISGUSTING. That said, I don't consider The Mirror a reliable source.
I kind of try to ignore him. I also think that everyone involved should give him a much colder treatment. I'm sorry for Kim. Wasn't she a policewoman? Is she still?
What about this article do you doubt? Below you have BBC news reporting on a children's charity condemning his comments because he clearly lacks remorse or self awareness that what he did was despicable, hence making the 1 year of prison time even more disgusting. www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-39292039Other reputable sources that have covered the story: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4316416/Rapist-Steven-Van-Velde-freed-just-year-jail.htmlwww.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/would-be-olympian-jailed-after-flying-400-miles-rape-12-year-old-girl-milton-keynes-1256450
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 7, 2021 8:24:34 GMT -5
This is what we need. Americans going around shaming Europeans for not having harsher prison sentences. You really want to lecture citizens of other countries on what the correct level of shunning is of released prisoners? Perhaps they act humane towards him because they believe that makes the World a better place? I'm pretty sure they surpass us in every measure of human development save for household income. So if I heard Casey or Kerri bring that subject up to chastise the rest of the tour as a fellow American I want to go crawl under a rock So a four year sentencing that was reduced to one year for three counts of rape that happened somewhere he need a plane ticket to get to seems all good to you? I am understanding that you think the tour acts humane towards him because that makes the world a better place and because Europeans surpass us in human development and household income so that means they must understand something we don't in that RAPING a 12 year old child actually isn't that big of a deal? This isn't some political opinion, this human morality in knowing and understanding that RAPING a 12 year girl, who literally doesn't know any better, is in fact a terrible thing. Otherwise I am not sure you understand what people are saying here, the shame and harassment should be of the individual for his actions, not the court system for absolutely failing society.
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Post by hbmb10k on Dec 7, 2021 12:14:56 GMT -5
This is what we need. Americans going around shaming Europeans for not having harsher prison sentences. You really want to lecture citizens of other countries on what the correct level of shunning is of released prisoners? Perhaps they act humane towards him because they believe that makes the World a better place? I'm pretty sure they surpass us in every measure of human development save for household income. So if I heard Casey or Kerri bring that subject up to chastise the rest of the tour as a fellow American I want to go crawl under a rock So a four year sentencing that was reduced to one year for three counts of rape that happened somewhere he need a plane ticket to get to seems all good to you? I am understanding that you think the tour acts humane towards him because that makes the world a better place and because Europeans surpass us in human development and household income so that means they must understand something we don't in that RAPING a 12 year old child actually isn't that big of a deal? This isn't some political opinion, this human morality in knowing and understanding that RAPING a 12 year girl, who literally doesn't know any better, is in fact a terrible thing. Otherwise I am not sure you understand what people are saying here, the shame and harassment should be of the individual for his actions, not the court system for absolutely failing society. I agree it's about human morality. You are coming from a failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences. You'd probably even argue this deters these crimes when when Europeans know that is not the case. I mentioned measures of human development because perhaps if there was one area that Americans excel in besides income, that might lend you credibility when lecturing them about proper prison sentences.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 7, 2021 13:24:13 GMT -5
So a four year sentencing that was reduced to one year for three counts of rape that happened somewhere he need a plane ticket to get to seems all good to you? I am understanding that you think the tour acts humane towards him because that makes the world a better place and because Europeans surpass us in human development and household income so that means they must understand something we don't in that RAPING a 12 year old child actually isn't that big of a deal? This isn't some political opinion, this human morality in knowing and understanding that RAPING a 12 year girl, who literally doesn't know any better, is in fact a terrible thing. Otherwise I am not sure you understand what people are saying here, the shame and harassment should be of the individual for his actions, not the court system for absolutely failing society. I agree it's about human morality. You are coming from a failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences. You'd probably even argue this deters these crimes when when Europeans know that is not the case. I mentioned measures of human development because perhaps if there was one area that Americans excel in besides income, that might lend you credibility when lecturing them about proper prison sentences. Yes, crazy concept that I am angered by a child pedophile rapist roaming free after pleading guilty to 3 counts of child rape he had to fly to another country to commit and only spending a year in prison to which he seemingly shows absolutely zero remorse or self awareness that what he did was very wrong. "He has defended his actions, saying he is "not a sex monster" for raping the girl known only as Miss A. to protect her identity. Van de Velde said: "I do want to correct all nonsense which has been written about me when I was locked up. I did not read anything of it, on purpose. But I understand that it was quite bad, that I have been branded as a sex monster, as a paedophile. "That I am not, really not. "Everyone can have an opinion about me, but it is only fair if they also know my side of the story."
Ah, he wants everyone to know his side of the story and is upset that people are calling him a pedophile....maybe it is because he RAPED a 12 year old, in a different country. Classic misunderstanding. I absolutely think he should be publicly shamed and humiliated as long as he chooses to go out in public and compete on this large of a scale, and if he ever makes it back to the Olympics the announcers should lead with the fact he pleaded guilty of 3 counts of rape of a 12 year old girl, but because the Europeans have their justice system down pat he got to be released after a year protesting that we all hear his side of the story like it will absolve him of crimes. But we get the gist of your point, RAPING a 12 year old girl in a different country when you are an adult is really just no big deal and just a misunderstanding because we don't know his side of the story. I certainly hope you don't work with children or have any say in possible punishments when adults take advantage of children. It makes you no better than all the RVA's that turn a blind eye to all the offenders in our juniors programs.
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Post by yupyup on Dec 7, 2021 15:22:22 GMT -5
So a four year sentencing that was reduced to one year for three counts of rape that happened somewhere he need a plane ticket to get to seems all good to you? I am understanding that you think the tour acts humane towards him because that makes the world a better place and because Europeans surpass us in human development and household income so that means they must understand something we don't in that RAPING a 12 year old child actually isn't that big of a deal? This isn't some political opinion, this human morality in knowing and understanding that RAPING a 12 year girl, who literally doesn't know any better, is in fact a terrible thing. Otherwise I am not sure you understand what people are saying here, the shame and harassment should be of the individual for his actions, not the court system for absolutely failing society. I agree it's about human morality. You are coming from a failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences. You'd probably even argue this deters these crimes when when Europeans know that is not the case. I mentioned measures of human development because perhaps if there was one area that Americans excel in besides income, that might lend you credibility when lecturing them about proper prison sentences. Wait - what do you mean by ‘failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences.’? Do you believe a 1 year prison term is an adequate punishment for raping a child? It’s either yes or no.
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Post by robvolei on Dec 8, 2021 0:19:49 GMT -5
I stopped caring as much for beach volleyball after Guest2 brought this issue to my attention a few weeks ago. I truly can't believe that he is allowed on the world tour or any tour. What other sports/sport leagues would accept someone with this background?
I am disgusted with the IBVPA (international beach volleyball players association) that they have not made a statement on this or tried to ban him. I am disgusted with all the pro players that are friends with him and follow him on social media. I am disgusted with the Beach Volleyball World Tour.
Imagine an openly racist or sexist pro beach volleyball player on the world tour. It wouldn't happen, the players would ban them from competing but why not a freaking convicted paedophile?
He really needs to be banned and also f%#* all the other pro players who are friends with him.
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Post by guest2 on Dec 8, 2021 6:55:07 GMT -5
I stopped caring as much for beach volleyball after Guest2 brought this issue to my attention a few weeks ago. I truly can't believe that he is allowed on the world tour or any tour. What other sports/sport leagues would accept someone with this background? I am disgusted with the IBVPA (international beach volleyball players association) that they have not made a statement on this or tried to ban him. I am disgusted with all the pro players that are friends with him and follow him on social media. I am disgusted with the Beach Volleyball World Tour. Imagine an openly racist or sexist pro beach volleyball player on the world tour. It wouldn't happen, the players would ban them from competing but why not a freaking convicted paedophile? He really needs to be banned and also f%#* all the other pro players who are friends with him. Im with you 100%. Very disappointed in a lot of people
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 8, 2021 8:33:56 GMT -5
I stopped caring as much for beach volleyball after Guest2 brought this issue to my attention a few weeks ago. I truly can't believe that he is allowed on the world tour or any tour. What other sports/sport leagues would accept someone with this background? I am disgusted with the IBVPA (international beach volleyball players association) that they have not made a statement on this or tried to ban him. I am disgusted with all the pro players that are friends with him and follow him on social media. I am disgusted with the Beach Volleyball World Tour. Imagine an openly racist or sexist pro beach volleyball player on the world tour. It wouldn't happen, the players would ban them from competing but why not a freaking convicted paedophile? He really needs to be banned and also f%#* all the other pro players who are friends with him. *Convicted Child Rapist
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Post by moderndaycoach on Dec 8, 2021 8:41:51 GMT -5
I agree it's about human morality. You are coming from a failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences. You'd probably even argue this deters these crimes when when Europeans know that is not the case. I mentioned measures of human development because perhaps if there was one area that Americans excel in besides income, that might lend you credibility when lecturing them about proper prison sentences. Wait - what do you mean by ‘failing state raised that you need to seek vengeance on pedophiles via harsh sentences.’? Do you believe a 1 year prison term is an adequate punishment for raping a child? It’s either yes or no. They have made it pretty clear they don't think raping a 12 year old is that big of a deal and explains to us since the Europeans are so much more advanced than us ignorant Americans, they somehow know that prison won't fix this man's actions so why bother keeping him in there. Call it a failing state, but you learn from a real young age if you don't want to be put in a time out, sent to your room, or have privileges taken away you behave and obey the rules. If you did wind up in one of those situations you typically end up reflecting on how you got there and correct your mistake or show remorse because you want your freedom back. This POS clearly shows no remorse telling people they were both going through things......she was f*cking 12 years old what %*$# was she going through that it was acceptable to engage in sexual activity with her? And wants people to know he's not a sex monster or a pedophile. That clearly shows he has absolutely no remorse for what he did and something that another 25+ years in prison labeled as a child rapist and never being able to compete in any sanctioned IOC event ever again would have helped him realize.
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Post by newbeach on Dec 8, 2021 22:58:00 GMT -5
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