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Post by babybacksets on Aug 29, 2021 1:20:59 GMT -5
If she wants to play professionally I would imagine it’s a play you don’t want to be used to second guessing whether to do it or not… She is not playing professionally. She is playing in the NCAA, and that play literally gets you nothing or worse in the NCAA. International rules also don't allow the libero to serve, or more than 6 subs, or three challenges... I love Orzol. She is great, but she needs to realize what rules she is playing under. You underestimate her intelligence if you think she can't do that. It will come with time. I just don’t think it’s as serious as you seem to be taking it is all. I like what I’ve seen for Orzol, she’s a gamer and I wouldn’t want to take anything from her game |
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Post by vbjustice on Aug 29, 2021 7:18:39 GMT -5
Those touch figures above are old. Devyn is 10'8, Smrek is 11'2" verticals can ebb and flow depending where you’re at in preseason, in season, or off season |
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Post by vbking2020 on Aug 29, 2021 7:24:01 GMT -5
She is not playing professionally. She is playing in the NCAA, and that play literally gets you nothing or worse in the NCAA. International rules also don't allow the libero to serve, or more than 6 subs, or three challenges... I love Orzol. She is great, but she needs to realize what rules she is playing under. You underestimate her intelligence if you think she can't do that. It will come with time. I just don’t think it’s as serious as you seem to be taking it is all. I like what I’ve seen for Orzol, she’s a gamer and I wouldn’t want to take anything from her game I’m interested in how Orzol progresses on defense as she missed a few digs. |
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Post by robtearle on Aug 29, 2021 8:13:11 GMT -5
This was truly one of the weirdest matches I’ve ever seen. So weird for Wisconsin to just dominate for 2 sets and then get dominated themselves just to go on and dominate again…. How were none of the 4 sets competitive ? Sheffield was tinkering with the lineup in the 3rd set. The plays seemed a heck of a lot slower developing as a result, but I am far from an expert to give much more of an analysis that that. I’m reasonably confident that serving wasn’t nearly as good in that set. The only "tinkering" I saw was subbing in Demps for Loberg to try to spark things after they had fallen behind. Wisconsin let down a bit after dominating the first two sets, and a very good Baylor team showed their pride and fought back. Not particularly unusual "human" reactions. The good news (for Badger fans, anyway) is how the Badgers reacted in the 4th set. |
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Post by robtearle on Aug 29, 2021 8:16:49 GMT -5
She is not playing professionally. She is playing in the NCAA, and that play literally gets you nothing or worse in the NCAA. International rules also don't allow the libero to serve, or more than 6 subs, or three challenges... I love Orzol. She is great, but she needs to realize what rules she is playing under. You underestimate her intelligence if you think she can't do that. It will come with time. I just don’t think it’s as serious as you seem to be taking it is all. I like what I’ve seen for Orzol, she’s a gamer and I wouldn’t want to take anything from her game Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. |
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Post by skullars on Aug 29, 2021 9:14:38 GMT -5
I know it's not determinative, but the score difference between Baylor-MN and Baylor-WI shows that there's a BIG drop off after the top 3-4 teams. Granted, that's not anything unusual. 25-7? Seriously? You know what is determinative? Home court. Agree. Don’t think it’s a ranking drop-off thing. I’d more attribute (1) home court + amp from finally having fans again, (2) Baylor mental drop-off from ranked “upset” win the night before, (3) early season “wackiness”, for lack of a better term, as teams work through defining themselves. No doubt, Wisky is really good. And it may take Baylor some time to find their stride. I didn’t think they were particularly impressive against Minn, and certainly not against Wisky (passing? Where was vandermark? 7 PTS?!) Wisc is fun to watch. |
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Post by Badger Alum on Aug 29, 2021 10:00:27 GMT -5
This was truly one of the weirdest matches I’ve ever seen. So weird for Wisconsin to just dominate for 2 sets and then get dominated themselves just to go on and dominate again…. How were none of the 4 sets competitive ? Sheffield was tinkering with the lineup in the 3rd set. The plays seemed a heck of a lot slower developing as a result, but I am far from an expert to give much more of an analysis that that. I’m reasonably confident that serving wasn’t nearly as good in that set. Wisconsin completely obliterated Baylor in the first two sets. It wasn’t competitive. It’s human nature to just back off a little bit. They didn’t have the same focus, energy, or desire. When you beat someone 25-7, your focus will be ‘less than.” Baylor, to its credit, had a lot of pride in fought really hard in that 3rd Set. That’s why you saw the result in the third set. Then the Badgers focused again and it wasn’t competitive again. It’s not all that surprising. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Aug 29, 2021 10:04:48 GMT -5
I just don’t think it’s as serious as you seem to be taking it is all. I like what I’ve seen for Orzol, she’s a gamer and I wouldn’t want to take anything from her game Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. I’ve watched her play seven sets of volleyball now and exactly once she went under the net about three steps to try to get an off-dig before realizing it careened off the scoreboard. No idea why this poster is trying to make it sound like it’s something she needs to work on- feels like someone has an ax to grind to me. |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Aug 29, 2021 10:07:25 GMT -5
Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. I’ve watched her play seven sets of volleyball now and exactly once she went under the net about three steps to try to get an off-dig before realizing it careened off the scoreboard. No idea why this poster is trying to make it sound like it’s something she needs to work on- feels like someone has an ax to grind to me. Also worth noting- you regularly see NCAA seniors crossing the center line on the court edges to try to get an off dig. In the moment, you aren’t thinking about Rule 73, Section 9- you’re thinking “I want this point”. I don’t see how Orzol is expected to forget this reflex two matches in, while you still see it from players with ~ 80 matches under their belt. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 29, 2021 11:25:24 GMT -5
I just don’t think it’s as serious as you seem to be taking it is all. I like what I’ve seen for Orzol, she’s a gamer and I wouldn’t want to take anything from her game Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. It was not a great transgression. I made an off hand comment on one play where orzol ran under the net taking a short cut to get to a high overdig out of bounds or something. The ball hit the scoreboard instead on its way and bounced back on the UW side. She then wasn’t available for a set. The only reason it seems like a big deal is that we keep arguing if it makes makes sense to keep playing by international rules when in the NCAA. I shouldn’t have got sucked into a pointless debate. |
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 29, 2021 12:28:18 GMT -5
Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. It was not a great transgression. I made an off hand comment on one play where orzol ran under the net taking a short cut to get to a high overdig out of bounds or something. The ball hit the scoreboard instead on its way and bounced back on the UW side. She then wasn’t available for a set. The only reason it seems like a big deal is that we keep arguing if it makes makes sense to keep playing by international rules when in the NCAA. I shouldn’t have got sucked into a pointless debate. *I shouldn’t have started a pointless debate |
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Post by PeoriaBucky on Aug 29, 2021 12:29:53 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been posted earlier in the thread, but is the match up on YouTube yet? Couldn't find anything more than highlights yet. Wife and I cut our expensive cable package so I no longer have BTN. ☹️
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Post by robtearle on Aug 29, 2021 12:33:11 GMT -5
Can somebody tell when this great transgression occurred - set number and approximate score, etc - so I can look on the video? As was mentioned, I was at the Field House, and did not notice it at all. It was not a great transgression. I made an off hand comment on one play where orzol ran under the net taking a short cut to get to a high overdig out of bounds or something. The ball hit the scoreboard instead on its way and bounced back on the UW side. She then wasn’t available for a set. The only reason it seems like a big deal is that we keep arguing if it makes makes sense to keep playing by international rules when in the NCAA. I shouldn’t have got sucked into a pointless debate. Can you please tell me what set and approximate score, so I can go look at it? Thanks. ------------- Never mind. From the context of the 'chat', I was able to find it. Second set, the point that takes the score from 10-2 to 10-3, in case anyone wants to look at it. |
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Post by savannahbadger on Aug 29, 2021 13:53:42 GMT -5
Sorry if this has been posted earlier in the thread, but is the match up on YouTube yet? Couldn't find anything more than highlights yet. Wife and I cut our expensive cable package so I no longer have BTN. ☹️ Subscribe to BTN+. It’s $10/month for a school pass and the replay is available after midnight of the game day. I subscribed for maybe 3 months earlier this year just to catch spring volleyball. |
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Post by savannahbadger on Aug 29, 2021 14:00:45 GMT -5
Second set, the point that takes the score from 10-2 to 10-3, in case anyone wants to look at it. Why didn’t the announcers mention that wasn’t OK? From my vantage point in the Field House, I couldn’t see Orzoł do that, but did notice that the tranjectory change threw off who was trying to get the ball. |
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