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Post by moody on Sept 30, 2021 13:12:38 GMT -5
Geez guys--duncaroo, moody, mervinswerved--you are better than this. I say that in sincerity. I don't agree with what you post all the time but it makes me think when you aren't acting like little kids or trolls (that would be ringo/husker). Be better!!! Zen. "Moody is better than this". Always off the reservation and name calling with anyone disagreeing with them. Do you read the posts at all?? I guess this is trolling? Let's get back to our conversation. Why did Manafort share polling data with Russia?
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Post by moody on Sept 30, 2021 13:15:49 GMT -5
Geez guys--duncaroo, moody, mervinswerved--you are better than this. I say that in sincerity. I don't agree with what you post all the time but it makes me think when you aren't acting like little kids or trolls (that would be ringo/husker). Be better!!! Zen. "Moody is better than this". Always off the reservation and name calling with anyone disagreeing with them. Do you read the posts at all?? I guess this is trolling? Ooops. Let me help,,, In its earliest evidence, experts explain that this phrase, "off the reservation," dealt with policing, killing and colonizing Native Americans and removing them from their native land. "The phrase has very offensive roots as the Native American's who were found 'off the reservation' were killed,"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 13:57:24 GMT -5
I am old enough to know that, no, people are NOT better than this. Nope. People are better. They just need the opportunity or the reminder to pay attention to the better angels of their nature.
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Post by donut on Sept 30, 2021 13:59:21 GMT -5
Geez guys--duncaroo, moody, mervinswerved--you are better than this. One of these is not like the other.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 30, 2021 14:20:40 GMT -5
I am old enough to know that, no, people are NOT better than this. Nope. People are better. They just need the opportunity or the reminder to pay attention to the better angels of their nature.
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Post by moody on Sept 30, 2021 14:22:18 GMT -5
Geez guys--duncaroo, moody, mervinswerved--you are better than this. One of these is not like the other. Another test…
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 14:49:07 GMT -5
Nope. People are better. They just need the opportunity or the reminder to pay attention to the better angels of their nature. You sound like my friend's friend Pete. Usually he talks about objectivism and rationalism though. I understand cynicism, I just prefer to look for the good. I find if you look for the good, you find it more often than if you wait to be surprised by it.
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Post by donut on Sept 30, 2021 15:35:06 GMT -5
I’ll pass on the lectures about what is “good” from the poster who suggested 1 American life is worth 4 Japanese lives, personally.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 30, 2021 16:31:30 GMT -5
Zen. "Moody is better than this". Always off the reservation and name calling with anyone disagreeing with them. Do you read the posts at all?? I guess this is trolling? Ooops. Let me help,,, In its earliest evidence, experts explain that this phrase, "off the reservation," dealt with policing, killing and colonizing Native Americans and removing them from their native land. "The phrase has very offensive roots as the Native American's who were found 'off the reservation' were killed," Nice to see you acknowledging insensitivities directed towards the BIPOC community. 👍🏾
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Post by moody on Sept 30, 2021 16:54:41 GMT -5
Ooops. Let me help,,, In its earliest evidence, experts explain that this phrase, "off the reservation," dealt with policing, killing and colonizing Native Americans and removing them from their native land. "The phrase has very offensive roots as the Native American's who were found 'off the reservation' were killed," Nice to see you acknowledging insensitivities directed towards the BIPOC community. 👍🏾 anytime.
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Post by dc on Sept 30, 2021 18:10:21 GMT -5
I’ll pass on the lectures about what is “good” from the poster who suggested 1 American life is worth 4 Japanese lives, personally. I thought he was talking about wartime?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2021 20:43:02 GMT -5
I’ll pass on the lectures about what is “good” from the poster who suggested 1 American life is worth 4 Japanese lives, personally. When you are the president of the United States, when you are on the Joint Chiefs, when you are one of those at-risk American servicemen, yes, one American is worth four Japanese lives. Easily. Ten or twelve. The United States did not start the Pacific War. Japan did. If you are going to cast blame, you should do so on the Japanese government for their aggressiveness in China 1931-1941 and then for attacking the United States. You clearly haven't ever spoken with veterans who were training for those missions. And rather than give a 1:4 ratio, be more exact--you're talking about saving 500,000+ American lives. More boys would've died from Olympic than people killed by COVID. There would have been more Americans dead than in all other campaigns and theaters of World War Two combined. I'm sorry you don't understand the way wars work.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 1, 2021 8:58:27 GMT -5
This assumes the only paths to ending WWII were invading Japan or dropping the bomb, which is incorrect. The mass killing of civilians (or the targeted killing of smaller numbers of civilians via drone strike) is a choice. The wrong one, in my mind.
And it assumes war and killing is the preferable way to settle international conflict. I think this is colored by the American experience in WWII. It's the one "good" war where we can tell ourselves we were unquestionably the good guys.
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Post by mervinswerved on Oct 1, 2021 8:58:53 GMT -5
I’ll pass on the lectures about what is “good” from the poster who suggested 1 American life is worth 4 Japanese lives, personally. I thought he was talking about wartime? I don't think it matters.
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Post by donut on Oct 1, 2021 10:02:08 GMT -5
I’ll pass on the lectures about what is “good” from the poster who suggested 1 American life is worth 4 Japanese lives, personally. When you are the president of the United States, when you are on the Joint Chiefs, when you are one of those at-risk American servicemen, yes, one American is worth four Japanese lives. Easily. Ten or twelve. I am not the president of the United States, thank god. But if I were, I would 1) prioritize ending a war as peacefully and quickly as possible, and 2) prioritize minimizing all deaths, not just the deaths of my soldiers. Because I'm not a barbarian. If I were a serviceman, and I thought my life was more valuable than 4 innocent civilian lives, I'm a really sh*tty serviceman. Two wrongs make a right is really sh*tty foreign policy. Nice lazy assumption. You're wrong. lmao I'm using the number you provided here. Thanks for the lesson, warstudent!
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