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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 13:53:40 GMT -5
Do you read? I haven't once referenced Milley's phone calls to China. I wasn't talking about those at all. you have been talking about these calls for 8 pages. Please quote a single post before page 8 where I did that.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 17, 2021 13:54:34 GMT -5
It’s funny people trying to blame Milley for trying to prevent a nuclear weapon from being used for “no” reason. Clearly the problem was we had an abnormality and a sicko for a president. When you have that, all sorts of dangerous precedents are going to be set by the abnormal sicko himself, by goofballs that he appoints, and normal people attempting to function, inside and outside the government, in the environment and circumstances set by the abnormal sicko. When dealing with other countries, how many times did Trump send troops to "do his bidding"? How many wars did the bloodthirsty sicko start?
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Post by moody on Sept 17, 2021 14:10:01 GMT -5
you have been talking about these calls for 8 pages. Please quote a single post before page 8 where I did that. You really are a child.
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:10:23 GMT -5
Please quote a single post before page 8 where I did that. You really are a child. Still waiting.
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Post by moody on Sept 17, 2021 14:10:44 GMT -5
It’s funny people trying to blame Milley for trying to prevent a nuclear weapon from being used for “no” reason. Clearly the problem was we had an abnormality and a sicko for a president. When you have that, all sorts of dangerous precedents are going to be set by the abnormal sicko himself, by goofballs that he appoints, and normal people attempting to function, inside and outside the government, in the environment and circumstances set by the abnormal sicko. When dealing with other countries, how many times did Trump send troops to "do his bidding"? How many wars did the bloodthirsty sicko start? Trump incited an insurrection. Isn't that good enough for you?
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Post by moody on Sept 17, 2021 14:12:18 GMT -5
Not going to go through the pile of crap you posted today. If not for the phone calls why were you calling for Milley's resignation?
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:17:04 GMT -5
Not going to go through the pile of crap you posted today. If not for the phone calls why were you calling for Milley's resignation? Ah, so the part about "posting for eight pages" about phone calls was something you entirely made up.
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:21:26 GMT -5
Not going to go through the pile of crap you posted today. If not for the phone calls why were you calling for Milley's resignation? In response to a post *you* made: There is a legal and constitutional process for removing a president who is unfit to serve. If Milley thought Trump was that dangerous, he should have gone to Pence and the cabinet. If that didn't work, he could have gone public by going to Congress and the press. Instead, if the book is accurate, he illegally usurped Trump's authority and told nobody in civilian leadership (until going public to Bob Woodward months after the fact). If that can happen with no consequences or accountability, what's the stop Milley (or another general) from doing it to a president you like? In response to *another* post you made: CJCS doesn't hold a veto power over a nuclear strike. His only job in that scenario is to execute the president's orders (actually, the Secretary of Defense's order, but that's coming from POTUS). If he won't, or wants to create some sort of nebulous "check" on presidential power, he's breaking the law and should resign. Read the procedures for a nuclear strike- they're really bad! A president has essentially unilateral power to end the world. That sucks! We should definitely change that, but it's on Congress, not on Mark Milley. You quote replied to both of these comments, so I assume you read them.
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Post by moody on Sept 17, 2021 14:22:12 GMT -5
Not going to go through the pile of crap you posted today. If not for the phone calls why were you calling for Milley's resignation? Ah, so the part about "posting for eight pages" about phone calls was something you entirely made up. you really are incapable of an actual discussion. Quite the useful idiot.
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Post by moody on Sept 17, 2021 14:23:57 GMT -5
Not going to go through the pile of crap you posted today. If not for the phone calls why were you calling for Milley's resignation? In response to a post *you* made: There is a legal and constitutional process for removing a president who is unfit to serve. If Milley thought Trump was that dangerous, he should have gone to Pence and the cabinet. If that didn't work, he could have gone public by going to Congress and the press. Instead, if the book is accurate, he illegally usurped Trump's authority and told nobody in civilian leadership (until going public to Bob Woodward months after the fact). If that can happen with no consequences or accountability, what's the stop Milley (or another general) from doing it to a president you like? In response to *another* post you made: CJCS doesn't hold a veto power over a nuclear strike. His only job in that scenario is to execute the president's orders (actually, the Secretary of Defense's order, but that's coming from POTUS). If he won't, or wants to create some sort of nebulous "check" on presidential power, he's breaking the law and should resign. Read the procedures for a nuclear strike- they're really bad! A president has essentially unilateral power to end the world. That sucks! We should definitely change that, but it's on Congress, not on Mark Milley. You quote replied to both of these comments, so I assume you read them. you hardly have to read your posts to reply to them. They are all quite predictable
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:27:36 GMT -5
I'm very sorry that I come packing receipts.
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:35:46 GMT -5
So let's try this again, starting from this statement: There is a legal and constitutional process for removing a president who is unfit to serve. If Milley thought Trump was that dangerous, he should have gone to Pence and the cabinet. If that didn't work, he could have gone public by going to Congress and the press. Instead, if the book is accurate, he illegally usurped Trump's authority and told nobody in civilian leadership (until going public to Bob Woodward months after the fact). If that can happen with no consequences or accountability, what's the stop Milley (or another general) from doing it to a president you like? Let's do a thought experiment, moody. Sometime in 2023 or so, China decides to invade and formally annex Taiwan. The United States is (sort of) committed to Taiwan's security and "independence." I happen to think if/when this happens, the US will not respond militarily. There are *lots* of people in the US foreign policy and military establishment who'd love a shooting war with China, though. In the process of invading Taiwan, a US surface ship gets a little too close to Chinese ships and catches a cruise missile from the PLA Navy. US forces are on high alert and the Joint Chiefs want to strike back at the Chinese, but Biden decides not to escalate and orders our forces to stand down. Mark Milley (or whomever is CJCS) believes Biden represents a threat to the nation and tells the other generals that any decision on launch/don't launch has to involve him personally, effectively giving himself a veto over POTUS commands. Are you OK with that scenario?
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Post by donut on Sept 17, 2021 14:37:46 GMT -5
I'm very sorry that I come packing receipts. How dare you
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Sept 17, 2021 14:46:34 GMT -5
When dealing with other countries, how many times did Trump send troops to "do his bidding"? How many wars did the bloodthirsty sicko start? Trump incited an insurrection. Isn't that good enough for you? Nope. Some idiots deciding to storm the capital is NOT the same as him starting a military offensive or a nuclear war. So how many wars did he start? How many countries did he attack?
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 17, 2021 14:54:03 GMT -5
How many countries did he attack? Off the top of my head: Syria Yemen Afghanistan Iraq Somalia Plus god knows whatever else AFRICOM is up to.
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