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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 27, 2023 13:50:17 GMT -5
Meanwhile back at the PAC HQ…🤣🤣  |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jul 27, 2023 13:51:24 GMT -5
Meanwhile back at the PAC HQ…🤣🤣 I audibly cackled at my desk. |
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Post by horns1 on Jul 27, 2023 13:51:24 GMT -5
July 31 is approaching quickly. Colorado taking the first step has to be because they have no faith the PAC will be signing a TV deal close to what the Big 12 did; so, might as well leave for teh bigger payout. Just good business sense.
That being said, and Colorado does bolt, I expect at least one other PAC school to accept an invitation to join the Big 12 by July 31. Arizona is my choice.
Colorado making an apparent move right now is probably the worst-case outcome for UConn. I don't see the Big 12 extending them an invite unless several other PAC candidates take a pass.
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Post by boxcariii on Jul 27, 2023 13:53:27 GMT -5
If CU was to move, it will set back talk over a media deal even further……now that the PAC 12 will lose the Denver market along with the LA market. Why would OSU or WSU holding emergency meetings? These two schools are said to be the two schools that no other P 5 conference want. Maybe plotting to join the MWC to complete the collapse of the PAC12 ?  Some times, you have to move before the enemy to protect your own interests. We're getting closer to a time where the "group of 5/non $$ 4" might actually instigate a move themselves, breaking away from the B1G/SEC prior to the B1G/SEC breaking away. Unfortunately with the NCAA voting set up the way it is, I'm not 100% how feasible it is*. At the same time, if it is feasible at all, I think the "have nots" could potentially strike first and we've been at the point that they should strike first for a decade (at least) now. *They'd have to be able to take some copyrights/trade marks with them, primarily, "March Madness". I know the "money 4/5" have extra voting power, but I'm not sure exactly the details on that. Think how the basketball conference, Big East, got to keep the name. It was a couple month window, and the Catholic 7 made a move at the time, primarily to keep the name. I'm thinking history has a chance to repeat itself, on a larger scale. This pure speculation on my part, but I love conference realignment!!! |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 27, 2023 13:56:58 GMT -5
July 31 is approaching quickly. Colorado taking the first step has to be because they have no faith the PAC will be signing a TV deal close to what the Big 12 did; so, might as well leave for teh bigger payout. Just good business sense. That being said, and Colorado does bolt, I expect at least one other PAC school to accept an invitation to join the Big 12 by July 31. Arizona is my choice. Colorado making an apparent move right now is probably the worst-case outcome for UConn. I don't see the Big 12 extending them an invite unless several other PAC candidates take a pass. The other thing is that the Big 12 supposedly gave Colorado an end of July deadline. I agree that Arizona is most likely to join them. As for UConn, I think they'll be okay. Their football program would likely continue to be bad, but that's a basketball school, and the Big East works fine for basketball. |
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jul 27, 2023 14:02:36 GMT -5
As gr8lakes mentions, they can create laws, issue executive orders, etc. Right. So instead of the media payouts being something like $90M for Washington and $10M for Washington State, they'll both make $25M. Sounds like a good plan! Definitely a possibility. Or maybe some conference takes both at $60M each for a total of $120M. While revenue is the most important consideration, it’s not the only one. There are still voters in East Washington state; they could complain WSU is getting shut out and vote accordingly, forcing the government to pay attention. |
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Post by huskersrule95 on Jul 27, 2023 14:12:20 GMT -5
Right. So instead of the media payouts being something like $90M for Washington and $10M for Washington State, they'll both make $25M. Sounds like a good plan! Definitely a possibility. Or maybe some conference takes both at $60M each for a total of $120M. While revenue is the most important consideration, it’s not the only one. There are still voters in East Washington state; they could complain WSU is getting shut out and vote accordingly, forcing the government to pay attention. No conference is paying $60 million for Washington State. If they try to make them a package deal, it will sink both schools because no good conference is taking both. It’s same situation with Oregon and Oregon State. Washington State and Oregon State bring little to no value to a new conference |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jul 27, 2023 14:16:05 GMT -5
Can't even comprehend the logic of trying to make UW/WSU a package deal. That should piss UW off and would, in fact, most likely result in a worse economic situation for the state. I love when people who know almost nothing about things try to introduce bills about those things.
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 27, 2023 15:23:48 GMT -5
So the Colorado board of regents meeting is at 3 PM MT. The college football subreddit even has a game thread for it, lol. Edit: the meeting is over, and the board voted unanimously to approve the move to the Big 12. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 27, 2023 16:32:35 GMT -5
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Post by chibadgerfan on Jul 27, 2023 16:56:43 GMT -5
Definitely a possibility. Or maybe some conference takes both at $60M each for a total of $120M. While revenue is the most important consideration, it’s not the only one. There are still voters in East Washington state; they could complain WSU is getting shut out and vote accordingly, forcing the government to pay attention. No conference is paying $60 million for Washington State. If they try to make them a package deal, it will sink both schools because no good conference is taking both. It’s same situation with Oregon and Oregon State. Washington State and Oregon State bring little to no value to a new conference Agreed no conference would pay $60 million for Washington State standalone. But some conference might be willing to pay $120 million for Washington and Washington State as a package, then it would be up to those two universities to divvy up the $120 million. Maybe it’s not 50/50 like I wrote. I have to believe that Washington does care about Washington State at least a little, and would rather not leave them behind if they don’t need to. |
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 27, 2023 17:38:38 GMT -5
No conference is paying $60 million for Washington State. If they try to make them a package deal, it will sink both schools because no good conference is taking both. It’s same situation with Oregon and Oregon State. Washington State and Oregon State bring little to no value to a new conference Agreed no conference would pay $60 million for Washington State standalone. But some conference might be willing to pay $120 million for Washington and Washington State as a package, then it would be up to those two universities to divvy up the $120 million. Maybe it’s not 50/50 like I wrote. I have to believe that Washington does care about Washington State at least a little, and would rather not leave them behind if they don’t need to. The Big 10 is trying to justify taking a cut to share with UW. They will not then also reduce their share to let in Washington State, anymore than they will then add Western, Eastern and Central Washington, as well as the Puyallup College for Typewriter Maintenance. |
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 27, 2023 17:55:33 GMT -5
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Post by redcard🏐 on Jul 27, 2023 18:29:41 GMT -5
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Post by huskersrule95 on Jul 27, 2023 19:33:09 GMT -5
No conference is paying $60 million for Washington State. If they try to make them a package deal, it will sink both schools because no good conference is taking both. It’s same situation with Oregon and Oregon State. Washington State and Oregon State bring little to no value to a new conference Agreed no conference would pay $60 million for Washington State standalone. But some conference might be willing to pay $120 million for Washington and Washington State as a package, then it would be up to those two universities to divvy up the $120 million. Maybe it’s not 50/50 like I wrote. I have to believe that Washington does care about Washington State at least a little, and would rather not leave them behind if they don’t need to. No. They wouldn’t pay $120 million for both. Zero chance. Any conference would lose a ton of money taking both They would leave them behind in a heartbeat if it meant them getting invited to a better conference or stuck in the dying PAC |
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