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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 15:09:22 GMT -5
People don’t want politics in their entertainment. So why are you introducing it here in this discussion? I was relating how Disney failing can affect football in future and in turn the reason they are failing |
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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 31, 2023 15:24:24 GMT -5
So why are you introducing it here in this discussion? I was relating how Disney failing can affect football in future and in turn the reason they are failing No you weren't. You were just jumping in to go on a rant about something you didn't like. And doing that exact same thing yourself in the process. Anyway, people are *fine* with politics in their entertainment. What bothers them is politics they disagree with in their entertainment. |
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Post by n00b on Jul 31, 2023 15:30:25 GMT -5
I was relating how Disney failing can affect football in future and in turn the reason they are failing No you weren't. You were just jumping in to go on a rant about something you didn't like. And doing that exact same thing yourself in the process. Anyway, people are *fine* with politics in their entertainment. What bothers them is politics they disagree with in their entertainment. Exactly. No politics - totally fine My politics - totally fine Not my politics - Hate it So if you are an entertainment business, only one of those three options won't upset some segment of your viewers. And I really don't think injecting politics gets very many new followers. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2023 15:34:36 GMT -5
I was relating how Disney failing can affect football in future and in turn the reason they are failing No you weren't. You were just jumping in to go on a rant about something you didn't like. And doing that exact same thing yourself in the process. Anyway, people are *fine* with politics in their entertainment. What bothers them is politics they disagree with in their entertainment. When a business picks sides they alienate half the country. They’re enough political sites if people want that stuff. It doesn’t need to be injected to every aspect of life. From a business perspective it’s insanely stupid |
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Post by lionsfan on Jul 31, 2023 16:12:34 GMT -5
No you weren't. You were just jumping in to go on a rant about something you didn't like. And doing that exact same thing yourself in the process. Anyway, people are *fine* with politics in their entertainment. What bothers them is politics they disagree with in their entertainment. When a business picks sides they alienate half the country. They’re enough political sites if people want that stuff. It doesn’t need to be injected to every aspect of life. From a business perspective it’s insanely stupid |
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Post by tomclen on Jul 31, 2023 16:59:22 GMT -5
Woke Talk belongs on off the net.
But, no question ESPN has challenges - and it's quite separate and apart from Disney.
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Post by vbnerd on Jul 31, 2023 17:04:48 GMT -5
ESPN is a dying brand. Nobody wants the woke trash they spout and you have so much streaming now ESPN is a dinosaur that’s about to go extinct. Regardless of what political views people have , it’s been proven over and over and over that when you inject that into entertainment it fails every time A quick google search will show several articles pitching what Boof is peddling, about the end of ESPN, going back as far as 2008, 15 years ago. While cable TV is facing a reinvention (due to cord cutting) that has risks for many brands including ESPN, advertisers want the live audience that sports provides and until that changes ESPN is not a "dying brand" unless you think people are going to stop watching sports. Spoiler, they are not. With the model in flux, ESPN has entered a cost conscious phase where they are letting go of some overpriced talking heads (but not the most overpriced heads yet, so they still have room to cut). They are not going to run out of former college football players to tell us the obvious so they can always make the product cheaper and people are still going to watch. And if anyone missed it, Diamond Sports wanted to restructure their costs for MLB TV rights because of cord cutting and the courts said no, pay what you promised. So the leagues can feel secure that these contracts will paid by all of their partners. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jul 31, 2023 17:05:44 GMT -5
No you weren't. You were just jumping in to go on a rant about something you didn't like. And doing that exact same thing yourself in the process. Anyway, people are *fine* with politics in their entertainment. What bothers them is politics they disagree with in their entertainment. When a business picks sides they alienate half the country. They’re enough political sites if people want that stuff. It doesn’t need to be injected to every aspect of life. From a business perspective it’s insanely stupid Barbie says "Hi!" |
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Post by horns1 on Jul 31, 2023 18:43:46 GMT -5
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Post by bluepenquin on Jul 31, 2023 20:42:56 GMT -5
Interestng timing - Arizona Board of Regents with a special meeting on Tuesday. PAC commissioner having a meeting in the morning (or within 48 hours depending on the source) to discuss the actual $'s they are seeing.
Sounds like Colorado was expecting numbers last week, and when none came, they left. Sounds like Arizona (and probably others) are wanting real numbers or they are threatening to leave.
So, does the PAC have new numbers that may keep these schools? If they are the old numbers - surely, they would have presented them last week prior to Colorado leaving.
Looks like make-or-break week this week for the PAC.
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Post by tomclen on Jul 31, 2023 21:45:03 GMT -5
That's a 25-minute executive session? I've worked places where deciding on what lunch to bring in for a meeting takes 40 minutes. |
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Post by horns1 on Jul 31, 2023 21:46:23 GMT -5
The numbers (or lack thereof) could be catastrophic . . .
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Post by bbg95 on Jul 31, 2023 22:16:22 GMT -5
That's a 25-minute executive session? I've worked places where deciding on what lunch to bring in for a meeting takes 40 minutes. The public meeting in which Colorado approved its move was about 15 minutes. I'm sure there were many longer meetings before that, though. |
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Post by brooselee on Jul 31, 2023 23:24:40 GMT -5
The numbers (or lack thereof) could be catastrophic . . . Yuck…..the numbers are a slap in the face. Low payout and low visibility. I even question anyone wanting in. Money wise it might be an increase in pay but mostly streaming will kill the visibility of your team. |
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Post by GoGophs on Aug 1, 2023 7:03:38 GMT -5
Is there a master list somewhere of who’s moving in the P5 conferences, where they’re moving to and when? Or could someone make one? There’s so much going on I’m having troubles keeping track of whats a done deal vs what’s still rumor…
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