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Post by redcard🏐 on Sept 1, 2023 9:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by hipsterfilth on Sept 1, 2023 9:14:55 GMT -5
When Stanford and Cal are joining the ATLANTIC COAST Conference, you know the world has lost their damn minds.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2023 9:22:45 GMT -5
UNC’s board of regents has already stated they’re not supporting the move.
But just need one.
What I read is that the ESPN contract says the ACC media rights payout goes up for each school they add, and SMU has agreed to no media rights money for 7 years, while Stanford and Cal have agreed to a 30% amount. Apparently that would add $60m to $70m to be divided among the other schools.
It doesn’t make sense to me that ESPN would be locked into something like that regardless of which schools were added, but that’s what the article said.
We’ll see.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:22:46 GMT -5
Dang - not totally surprised after the reports from late last week, but I didn't see this coming right after the other 6 from the PAC left this month.
This now becomes 4 mega conferences for volleyball going forward (if the B12 can keep up). New rivalries - not just within conferences but between conferences could be a lot of fun.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2023 9:24:40 GMT -5
Dang - not totally surprised after the reports from late last week, but I didn't see this coming right after the other 6 from the PAC left this month. This now becomes 4 mega conferences for volleyball going forward (if the B12 can keep up). New rivalries - not just within conferences but between conferences could be a lot of fun. I don’t think it’s a done deal yet, bluepenquin. They’re not even meeting today because of the campus shooting at UNC.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:25:02 GMT -5
UNC’s board of regents has already stated they’re not supporting the move. But just need one. What I read is that the ESPN contract says the ACC media rights payout goes up for each school they add, and SMU has agreed to no media rights money for 7 years, while Stanford and Cal have agreed to a 30% amount. Apparently that would add $60m to $70m to be divided among the other schools. It doesn’t make sense to me that ESPN would be locked into something like that regardless of which schools were added, but that’s what the article said. We’ll see. Is there any reason to think this isn't accurate? Of course much of this is going to get eaten up by increased travel. And the ESPN contract with the ACC is already a good contract for ESPN.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:26:00 GMT -5
Dang - not totally surprised after the reports from late last week, but I didn't see this coming right after the other 6 from the PAC left this month. This now becomes 4 mega conferences for volleyball going forward (if the B12 can keep up). New rivalries - not just within conferences but between conferences could be a lot of fun. I don’t think it’s a done deal yet, bluepenquin. They’re not even meeting today because of the campus shooting at UNC. www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/acc-votes-to-add-stanford-cal-smu-conference-presidents-approve-expansion-to-18-schools/Per CBS - ACC has approved. It is now just up to Stanford, Cal, and SMU to formally apply. Sounds like a done deal to me?
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Post by bigfan on Sept 1, 2023 9:27:06 GMT -5
I think the Stanford athletes might have something to say about this.
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Post by bigfan on Sept 1, 2023 9:28:50 GMT -5
Dang - not totally surprised after the reports from late last week, but I didn't see this coming right after the other 6 from the PAC left this month. This now becomes 4 mega conferences for volleyball going forward (if the B12 can keep up). New rivalries - not just within conferences but between conferences could be a lot of fun. I don’t think it’s a done deal yet, bluepenquin. They’re not even meeting today because of the campus shooting at UNC. Sources: ACC votes to invite Stanford, Cal, SMU www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/38304694/sources-acc-votes-invite-stanford-cal-smu
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:31:53 GMT -5
NC State flipped to make it happen. They were the most likely to flip, but wasn't sure if they would be tied to UNC (I guess they weren't). Wow.
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Post by slxpress on Sept 1, 2023 9:33:04 GMT -5
Thanks, bigfan! Man, UNC, FSU, and Clemson cannot be happy about this. I guess the rest of the schools feel like they’re going to lose them eventually anyway. Probably the best move if that’s the case.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:33:27 GMT -5
I feel bad for Washington State - I think they could still have a good VB program in either the Mountain West or AAC. But kicked out of the P5 (now P4) is tough.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Sept 1, 2023 9:34:48 GMT -5
For Stanford and Cal, it will be 30 percent of a whole ACC share for the next seven years. That number will jump to 70 percent in year eight, 75 percent in year nine and then they'll both receive full financial shares in the tenth year, per reports.
SMU must have money to burn and Cal’s athletic department budget woes are likely to get worse.
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Post by bluepenquin on Sept 1, 2023 9:37:54 GMT -5
Thanks, bigfan! Man, UNC, FSU, and Clemson cannot be happy about this. I guess the rest of the schools feel like they’re going to lose them eventually anyway. Probably the best move if that’s the case. I think a key was/is - if the ACC were to fall below 15 schools - ESPN reserved the right to renegotiate their contract with the ACC. Given the threats from a couple schools leaving, that may have united enough of the ACC to expand and avoid that headache down the road. I don't think ESPN wants to renegotiate a contract with the ACC - but if somehow Florida State, Clemson, and UNC were able to bolt - darn right ESPN is renegotiating and not for the good of the rest of the conference including NC State.
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Post by skullars on Sept 1, 2023 9:39:44 GMT -5
gostanford.com/news/2023/8/17/athletics-2023-hall-of-fame-class.aspxNext logical step after all the realignments are finalized must be conference renaming. A world where Cal Berkley, SMU, & Stanford belong to something called the "Atlantic Coast Conference" is far too wack-a-doodle for people of logic and reason to accept. Must correct the other nonsensical monikers as well. As an ACC fan I feel for the athletes that will be making cross-country trips but also am excited about the CA schools visiting our east coast schools and getting to watch in person.
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