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Post by savannahbadger on Dec 23, 2023 19:54:27 GMT -5
I have heard nothing about any interest from BIG in Clemson. That’s because there is no interest whatsoever. Pigs will fly before Clemson joins the B1G.
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Post by Boof1224 on Dec 23, 2023 19:58:00 GMT -5
I have heard nothing about any interest from BIG in Clemson. That’s because there is no interest whatsoever. Pigs will fly before Clemson joins the B1G. That’s what I keep saying but people want to keep thinking Clemson is a thing
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Post by horns1 on Dec 23, 2023 21:58:01 GMT -5
Florida State joining the B1G by themselves could be football suicide. It might be a good move for FOX and current B1G schools hoping to recruit the state of Florida better; but, Florida State's closest B1G opponent would be Maryland; they'd be blocked in their own peninsula by Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, etc. They'd definitely lose some recruiting appeal for those prospects who want to play most of their games in the southeast.
Now, if somehow Miami were part of the deal with FSU to the B1G, that could help. The SEC would definitely have to get defensive if all of a sudden 2 of the 3 big schools in Florida were contemplating joining the B1G.
Personally, I am so sick of FSU's public whining about not earning enough revenue (compared to Florida), and thinking they are worth more than what ESPN is paying them. I'd love the SEC to invite Miami (south Florida TV market) instead of FSU.
Lastly, if you were the B1G and SEC, would you be hesitant in inviting a school like FSU who is suing their current conference and complaining about everything left and right? Doesn't seem worth the headaches.
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Post by mibadger on Dec 23, 2023 23:51:37 GMT -5
Florida State joining the B1G by themselves could be football suicide. It might be a good move for FOX and current B1G schools hoping to recruit the state of Florida better; but, Florida State's closest B1G opponent would be Maryland; they'd be blocked in their own peninsula by Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, etc. They'd definitely lose some recruiting appeal for those prospects who want to play most of their games in the southeast. Now, if somehow Miami were part of the deal with FSU to the B1G, that could help. The SEC would definitely have to get defensive if all of a sudden 2 of the 3 big schools in Florida were contemplating joining the B1G. Personally, I am so sick of FSU's public whining about not earning enough revenue (compared to Florida), and thinking they are worth more than what ESPN is paying them. I'd love the SEC to invite Miami (south Florida TV market) instead of FSU. Lastly, if you were the B1G and SEC, would you be hesitant in inviting a school like FSU who is suing their current conference and complaining about everything left and right? Doesn't seem worth the headaches. If FSU comes to B1G I think they come in with Miami and/or North Carolina. This is a big if in my opinion. The grant of rights contract looks very solid and will be very very expensive to break. ACC breaking up may force Notre Dames hand finally. No way B1G takes them in all sports but lets them stay independent in football. Clemson doesn’t fit B1G academically but maybe that’s mattering less and less. I could see Duke, NC State, and Virginia as part of the conversation too. If ACC breaks up we are on our way to 3 power conferences. What really needs to happen is football to break away and have its own commissioner and alignment and for regional conferences(the way it used to be) for everything else. This would help keep costs and travel under control for non revenue sports. Football needs to stop dragging all the other sports along with it and be its own entity.
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Post by Boof1224 on Dec 24, 2023 0:46:51 GMT -5
Florida State joining the B1G by themselves could be football suicide. It might be a good move for FOX and current B1G schools hoping to recruit the state of Florida better; but, Florida State's closest B1G opponent would be Maryland; they'd be blocked in their own peninsula by Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, South Carolina, etc. They'd definitely lose some recruiting appeal for those prospects who want to play most of their games in the southeast. Now, if somehow Miami were part of the deal with FSU to the B1G, that could help. The SEC would definitely have to get defensive if all of a sudden 2 of the 3 big schools in Florida were contemplating joining the B1G. Personally, I am so sick of FSU's public whining about not earning enough revenue (compared to Florida), and thinking they are worth more than what ESPN is paying them. I'd love the SEC to invite Miami (south Florida TV market) instead of FSU. Lastly, if you were the B1G and SEC, would you be hesitant in inviting a school like FSU who is suing their current conference and complaining about everything left and right? Doesn't seem worth the headaches. If FSU comes to B1G I think they come in with Miami and/or North Carolina. This is a big if in my opinion. The grant of rights contract looks very solid and will be very very expensive to break. ACC breaking up may force Notre Dames hand finally. No way B1G takes them in all sports but lets them stay independent in football. Clemson doesn’t fit B1G academically but maybe that’s mattering less and less. I could see Duke, NC State, and Virginia as part of the conversation too. If ACC breaks up we are on our way to 3 power conferences. What really needs to happen is football to break away and have its own commissioner and alignment and for regional conferences(the way it used to be) for everything else. This would help keep costs and travel under control for non revenue sports. Football needs to stop dragging all the other sports along with it and be its own entity. Everyone keeps saying this ACC contract in unbreakable, until It’s not. I don’t think most really know how iron clad this contract is. Everyone is parroting others. They’re many ways a contract can be breeched by either side but hey keep believing there is no way they can get out of it
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Post by jackson5vb on Dec 24, 2023 1:43:42 GMT -5
I would like to see the old Big East pull Pitt, Syracuse, & BC back in. I'd be ok with Va Tech and Miami going back. They already have UConn & Villanova playing football. So would that be enough teams to give them an auto bid into the CFP Playoffs? Or would they need to grab a UMass, Temple or Delaware type team to make it work?
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Post by n00b on Dec 24, 2023 8:25:40 GMT -5
I would like to see the old Big East pull Pitt, Syracuse, & BC back in. I'd be ok with Va Tech and Miami going back. They already have UConn & Villanova playing football. So would that be enough teams to give them an auto bid into the CFP Playoffs? Or would they need to grab a UMass, Temple or Delaware type team to make it work? There is absolutely zero desire for the Big East to return to being a football conference. Villanova plays FCS football (along with Georgetown and Butler) which is a very different thing. The “Catholic 7” literally blew up the old Big East because they were sick of decisions being made for the sake of football when they didn’t have FBS football programs.
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Post by vballfreak808 on Mar 25, 2024 11:27:01 GMT -5
UTRGV moves from the WAC to the Southland Conference starting this fall
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Post by johnwwool on Mar 25, 2024 18:08:07 GMT -5
I would like to see the old Big East pull Pitt, Syracuse, & BC back in. I'd be ok with Va Tech and Miami going back. They already have UConn & Villanova playing football. So would that be enough teams to give them an auto bid into the CFP Playoffs? Or would they need to grab a UMass, Temple or Delaware type team to make it work? There is absolutely zero desire for the Big East to return to being a football conference. Villanova plays FCS football (along with Georgetown and Butler) which is a very different thing. The “Catholic 7” literally blew up the old Big East because they were sick of decisions being made for the sake of football when they didn’t have FBS football programs. I mean there is interest. It would just involve getting Penn State out of the Big Ten. Probably Rutgers and Maryland, too.
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Post by chibadgerfan on Mar 25, 2024 19:09:27 GMT -5
There is absolutely zero desire for the Big East to return to being a football conference. Villanova plays FCS football (along with Georgetown and Butler) which is a very different thing. The “Catholic 7” literally blew up the old Big East because they were sick of decisions being made for the sake of football when they didn’t have FBS football programs. I mean there is interest. It would just involve getting Penn State out of the Big Ten. Probably Rutgers and Maryland, too. The Big Ten will try hard to keep Penn State, but I could seeing them giving up Rutgers, since it’s been too much too fast for Rutgers. Maryland is a toss up. Above all, the Big Ten wants Notre Dame. If they could get Notre Dame, they would take in Stanford and Cal in a package and let Rutgers and Maryland leave.
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 25, 2024 20:34:43 GMT -5
I mean there is interest. It would just involve getting Penn State out of the Big Ten. Probably Rutgers and Maryland, too. The Big Ten will try hard to keep Penn State, but I could seeing them giving up Rutgers, since it’s been too much too fast for Rutgers. Maryland is a toss up. Above all, the Big Ten wants Notre Dame. If they could get Notre Dame, they would take in Stanford and Cal in a package and let Rutgers and Maryland leave. When people on this forum say stuff like this, I generally assume what they mean is "I want them to do this", rather than "I actually know they are trying to do this".
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Post by vbnerd on Mar 25, 2024 21:07:58 GMT -5
The Big Ten will try hard to keep Penn State, but I could seeing them giving up Rutgers, since it’s been too much too fast for Rutgers. Maryland is a toss up. Above all, the Big Ten wants Notre Dame. If they could get Notre Dame, they would take in Stanford and Cal in a package and let Rutgers and Maryland leave. When people on this forum say stuff like this, I generally assume what they mean is "I want them to do this", rather than "I actually know they are trying to do this". Because in fact, nobody is leaving the Big 10 or the SEC. The haves may leave at some point to rid themselves of the have nots, but the have nots cannot give up $100 million per year and a seat at the table, at least not under the current paradigm.
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Post by vbruh on Apr 1, 2024 11:00:49 GMT -5
Update?
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 1, 2024 12:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by mplsgopher on Apr 2, 2024 9:10:18 GMT -5
I would like to see the old Big East pull Pitt, Syracuse, & BC back in. I'd be ok with Va Tech and Miami going back. They already have UConn & Villanova playing football. So would that be enough teams to give them an auto bid into the CFP Playoffs? Or would they need to grab a UMass, Temple or Delaware type team to make it work? To the contrary, I wonder if when FSU and Clemson are out of the way (ie. no longer there to block the move solely on football grounds) the ACC would consider adding UConn? Would be a dream come true for them and a long sought after vindication of their decision to upgrade football to FBS and then no fold the team after mounting losses and criticism.
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