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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 7:42:46 GMT -5
What motivated Southern Utah to drop down from a stable Big Sky to a revolving door WAC? Just to have a conference mate nearby? In the WAC, Utah Tech (Dixie St), Utah Valley, Grand Canyon, are all "nearby" at least in terms of what you can call that for western states.
In the Big Sky they had Northern Arizona and Weber State. EDIT: I guess Idaho State would have to qualify too, for this "nearby" definition.
I don't think they were competitive in the Big Sky, so maybe looking to be more competitive in the WAC?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 7:43:25 GMT -5
Where is Chicago State going to end up? Hopefully not in DI. They need to move down.
NAIA would be a great landing spot for them. Drop some sports. Try to get back to reasonable financial solvency.
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Post by bbg95 on May 3, 2022 11:47:15 GMT -5
It's not exactly clear, but I believe that amount is per school. UConn paid $17 million to leave the AAC early for the Big East.
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Post by n00b on May 3, 2022 14:46:53 GMT -5
It's not exactly clear, but I believe that amount is per school. UConn paid $17 million to leave the AAC early for the Big East. Not a bad deal. In the neighborhood of $60 million going to the 8(ish) remaining AAC athletic departments. |
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Post by DustyDude87 on May 13, 2022 16:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by slxpress on May 14, 2022 7:03:40 GMT -5
So I was just told yesterday it looks like Texas and OU won’t be leaving for the SEC until ESPN gains the TV rights in 2024. Nothing official obviously, but it does make some sense, which would mean there’s a year overlap where the Big 12 has 14 teams.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 9:18:25 GMT -5
So you're saying that BYU beats Texas for the 2023 Big XII volleyball championship, as a parting gift? 
(just not on a Sunday)
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2022 9:36:16 GMT -5
So I was just told yesterday it looks like Texas and OU won’t be leaving for the SEC until ESPN gains the TV rights in 2024. Nothing official obviously, but it does make some sense, which would mean there’s a year overlap where the Big 12 has 14 teams. If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 9:41:06 GMT -5
So I was just told yesterday it looks like Texas and OU won’t be leaving for the SEC until ESPN gains the TV rights in 2024. Nothing official obviously, but it does make some sense, which would mean there’s a year overlap where the Big 12 has 14 teams. If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. But every AD and president in the PAC, Big XII, and ACC has been briefed that schools in the Big Ten and SEC are very shortly going to rocket up to nine figures of conference revenue per school per year, while the former three will be at a fraction of that.
With the NCAA set to get rid of scholarship limits (will only be limited by maximum roster sizes) and limits on the number of coaches ... I mean hell ... a school could hire a professional coach for every single player on its team!
That is why Texas and OU were forced to move.
Could see some more crazy moves, with that kind of coin being flung around. Notre Dame, USC, and Stanford to the Big Ten??
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Post by slxpress on May 14, 2022 9:47:13 GMT -5
So I was just told yesterday it looks like Texas and OU won’t be leaving for the SEC until ESPN gains the TV rights in 2024. Nothing official obviously, but it does make some sense, which would mean there’s a year overlap where the Big 12 has 14 teams. If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. I wondered if that had any impact on Riley’s move to USC. I can’t imagine it was the deciding factor, but it might have been a secondary one. @gophers4life I’m excited at the opportunity Texas has to play BYU in volleyball. There have been some classic matches in the two programs’ past. The Big 12 needs more competition at the top, frankly. After Texas is gone BYU, Baylor, and whoever else steps up can vie for conference champions. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2022 9:52:27 GMT -5
If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. I wondered if that had any impact on Riley’s move to USC. I can’t imagine it was the deciding factor, but it might have been a secondary one. @gophers4life I’m excited at the opportunity Texas has to play BYU in volleyball. There have been some classic matches in the two programs’ past. The Big 12 needs more competition at the top, frankly. After Texas is gone BYU, Baylor, and whoever else steps up can vie for conference champions. Yeah, it's been widely speculated that Riley didn't want any part of the SEC. As for volleyball, yeah, Texas was prominently involved in the two best BYU seasons since I began following the team, 2014 and 2018. And of course Texas won that memorable five-setter in 2016. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2022 9:54:30 GMT -5
If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. Could see some more crazy moves, with that kind of coin being flung around. Notre Dame, USC, and Stanford to the Big Ten??
I think USC joins the Big 10 or possibly goes independent at some point. I don't see it for Stanford. Oregon is more likely, as football is king. And Notre Dame would join just about any other power conference over the Big Ten. They appear to still be holding a grudge over being excluded 100 years ago. And they're a weird case. Technically, they're leaving TV money on the table right now (they'd make a lot more from the Big Ten or the SEC than what they make from NBC), but apparently, they'd lose even more money in donations from their wealthy boosters if they lost their independence. |
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Post by slxpress on May 14, 2022 9:56:48 GMT -5
If I'm Oklahoma, it's probably easier to make the CFP from the Big 12 than it would be from the SEC anyway, at least until the playoff expands. I would say the same thing about Texas, but lol. They're not going to come anywhere near the CFP as long as Sark is their coach. But every AD and president in the PAC, Big XII, and ACC has been briefed that schools in the Big Ten and SEC are very shortly going to rocket up to nine figures of conference revenue per school per year, while the former three will be at a fraction of that.
With the NCAA set to get rid of scholarship limits (will only be limited by maximum roster sizes) and limits on the number of coaches ... I mean hell ... a school could hire a professional coach for every single player on its team!
That is why Texas and OU were forced to move.
Could see some more crazy moves, with that kind of coin being flung around. Notre Dame, USC, and Stanford to the Big Ten??
That’s what I’ve been posting in the NIL thread in my conversations with you. The amount of money that’s about to enter college athletics is going to dwarf what has come before. The NIL pay structure is going to reflect that, with no effective way to enforce it. While it’s about the money, there’s another more fundamental decision that has to be made. Does each specific university have the administrative willpower to conjure the cognitive dissonance necessary to field professional teams with athletes making millions of dollars, simply to compete at the highest level of college sports? A lot of them will. But some of them either won’t want to, or can’t afford to. |
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Post by bbg95 on May 14, 2022 10:00:29 GMT -5
Also, it should be noted that BYU just canceled their upcoming football games with Utah State, including the one scheduled for 2023. It was speculated that they would only do this if the Big 12 was likely playing a nine-game conference schedule, as BYU is now down to just three non-conference games in 2023, which are Tennessee and SUU at home and at Arkansas. It makes sense that the Big 12 would want nine games while Oklahoma and Texas are still there.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2022 10:12:11 GMT -5
Could see some more crazy moves, with that kind of coin being flung around. Notre Dame, USC, and Stanford to the Big Ten??
I think USC joins the Big 10 or possibly goes independent at some point. I don't see it for Stanford. Oregon is more likely, as football is king. And Notre Dame would join just about any other power conference over the Big Ten. They appear to still be holding a grudge over being excluded 100 years ago. And they're a weird case. Technically, they're leaving TV money on the table right now (they'd make a lot more from the Big Ten or the SEC than what they make from NBC), but apparently, they'd lose even more money in donations from their wealthy boosters if they lost their independence. Top academic school and footprint in the Bay Area (tons of tech grads from everywhere)? They'd get the invite. Maybe they would decline it, but tough to see that IMO. But this is all just wild guessing, you could easily be (more) right.
Also I threw out USC and Stanford because Notre Dame has a yearly series in football with both schools, I think so that ND gets out to California every year.
Maybe ND would never join the Big Ten. They'd prefer their independence I'm sure. But with that kind of coin, and with an expanded CFP maybe making it harder for them to get into the playoff (?? wild guessing), I would think they'd prefer the Big Ten to the SEC.
This is fun stuff to speculate about, to me. But no one really knows yet where it is all headed.
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