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Post by babybacksets on Oct 24, 2021 0:36:39 GMT -5
Yea it’s almost like the other conferences had 1-2 seasons since 2019 as compared to the Big West… Other conferences have hecka mean competition. That in itself forces teams to mature faster. It’s kill or die. Yet, I feel the longer Hawaii grows as a team, they’ll get better. Growing pains 😩 True, combined with unfortunate injuries to budding players, foreign recruits not being a part of a FULL off season of training, etc. I think as many headaches as this team can have sometimes, i think it’s saying something that this group has had its recent success despite setbacks here and there. I credit a lot of that to Lang, i think if she’s setting how she is now back in the beginning of the season, the non conference record looks A LOT better |
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 24, 2021 0:45:38 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed how much serves Hawaii keeps shanking from their opponents lately? I just feel like Hawaii’s recieving is so sloppy. It's one of the 3 weaknesses of this team: weak serving, porous blocking, and serve receive.... I HATE that this team doesn’t have a cohesive swing blocking system. Looking back on a few games, a lot of the inconsistencies in the block come from poor/weak posting by the pin blockers our middles touch the majority of balls on the block without error.. I think next season we see tougher serving if our offense is more prolific at scoring. Serve receive idk…Ikenaga will for sure improve but Wagoner needs to stay more offensive consistently in order to keep entertaining her as more than a “hitting DS” because lord have mercy idk a player off the top of my head that’s that necessary of a backrow player but gives that much inconstancy on offense. |
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 24, 2021 0:48:17 GMT -5
Has anyone else noticed how much serves Hawaii keeps shanking from their opponents lately? I just feel like Hawaii’s recieving is so sloppy. It's one of the 3 weaknesses of this team: weak serving, porous blocking, and serve receive.... Not sure the serving is that bad, actually. The blocking is inconsistent. The lack of terminal pin hitters is a big issue. Shaky passes and digs that lead to out of system swings can be fixed by good pin hitters, but BVS is really the only one I would trust to do that on a decent basis. She has a lot on her as a result. I think Leoniak saved them in this match and has earned starts as a result. Hoping DeGoede is good to go for spring, because just getting reps would be huge for her and the other young players. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 24, 2021 0:54:58 GMT -5
It's one of the 3 weaknesses of this team: weak serving, porous blocking, and serve receive.... Not sure the serving is that bad, actually. The blocking is inconsistent. The lack of terminal pin hitters is a big issue. Shaky passes and digs that lead to out of system swings can be fixed by good pin hitters, but BVS is really the only one I would trust to do that on a decent basis. She has a lot on her as a result. I think Leoniak saved them in this match and has earned starts as a result. Hoping DeGoede is good to go for spring, because just getting reps would be huge for her and the other young players. I never said the serving is "bad". I just think it's weak and hardly gets the opposing teams OOS - even the weak teams in the Big West. We've been spoiled with good serving teams for the last decade or so. It's been a really long time since Hawaii did not have at least one hard jump server - this years team doesn't even have one in the starting lineup... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 0:59:21 GMT -5
Not sure the serving is that bad, actually. The blocking is inconsistent. The lack of terminal pin hitters is a big issue. Shaky passes and digs that lead to out of system swings can be fixed by good pin hitters, but BVS is really the only one I would trust to do that on a decent basis. She has a lot on her as a result. I think Leoniak saved them in this match and has earned starts as a result. Hoping DeGoede is good to go for spring, because just getting reps would be huge for her and the other young players. I never said the serving is "bad". I just think it's weak and hardly gets the opposing teams OOS - even the weak teams in the Big West. We've been spoiled with good serving teams for the last decade or so. It's been a really long time since Hawaii did not have at least one hard jump server - this years team doesn't even have one in the starting lineup... I honestly think it’s pretty bad because it is weak. Serving and blocking are interconnected in that way. Weak serving puts that much more pressure on your block. |
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 24, 2021 1:01:04 GMT -5
Not sure the serving is that bad, actually. The blocking is inconsistent. The lack of terminal pin hitters is a big issue. Shaky passes and digs that lead to out of system swings can be fixed by good pin hitters, but BVS is really the only one I would trust to do that on a decent basis. She has a lot on her as a result. I think Leoniak saved them in this match and has earned starts as a result. Hoping DeGoede is good to go for spring, because just getting reps would be huge for her and the other young players. I never said the serving is "bad". I just think it's weak and hardly gets the opposing teams OOS - even the weak teams in the Big West. We've been spoiled with good serving teams for the last decade or so. It's been a really long time since Hawaii did not have at least one hard jump server - this years team doesn't even have one in the starting lineup... Hard to evaluate if you are not sitting on the end line or have the opposition passing data for the matches and the season. Also, maybe this is just the B1G, which is pretty loaded again, but Orzol has a topspin jump serve that can be nasty, and it was highly effective on one weekend of league play, I heard, in opponent sideout percentages. This weekend, when it really came down to it, they had her going with a jump float that seemed to cause some disruption but was lower error (having a former engineer your head coach tried to talk out of coaching volleyball as one of your assistants does mean you have and are on top of the data). |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 24, 2021 1:02:13 GMT -5
It's one of the 3 weaknesses of this team: weak serving, porous blocking, and serve receive.... I HATE that this team doesn’t have a cohesive swing blocking system. Looking back on a few games, a lot of the inconsistencies in the block come from poor/weak posting by the pin blockers our middles touch the majority of balls on the block without error.. I think next season we see tougher serving if our offense is more prolific at scoring. Serve receive idk…Ikenaga will for sure improve but Wagoner needs to stay more offensive consistently in order to keep entertaining her as more than a “hitting DS” because lord have mercy idk a player off the top of my head that’s that necessary of a backrow player but gives that much inconstancy on offense. Re blocking: I've said this before but this team really misses Coach Ang. Hopefully Coach Ang comes back next year. Riley's making progress but I tend to agree with others that maybe she's not the one at OH. hitting sub .200 in the Big West is just meh.....BVS graduates next year and somebody better step up if we don't get a good terminal OH transfer |
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 24, 2021 1:04:33 GMT -5
I never said the serving is "bad". I just think it's weak and hardly gets the opposing teams OOS - even the weak teams in the Big West. We've been spoiled with good serving teams for the last decade or so. It's been a really long time since Hawaii did not have at least one hard jump server - this years team doesn't even have one in the starting lineup... I honestly think it’s pretty bad because it is weak. Serving and blocking are interconnected in that way. Weak serving puts that much more pressure on your block. Trust me, I 100% get that. Sheffield is huge on aggressive serving and disruption. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 24, 2021 1:05:11 GMT -5
I honestly think it’s pretty bad because it is weak. Serving and blocking are interconnected in that way. Weak serving puts that much more pressure on your block. I would categorize "bad" as a lot of service errors which we don't have. I do agree with you about it putting more pressure on our blocking which is a double whammy since we lost our blocking coach.... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 1:06:54 GMT -5
I honestly think it’s pretty bad because it is weak. Serving and blocking are interconnected in that way. Weak serving puts that much more pressure on your block. I would categorize "bad" as a lot of service errors which we don't have. I do agree with you about it putting more pressure on our blocking which is a double whammy since we lost our blocking coach.... Yeah I agree with you measuring bad as many errors too. But these lollipops are allowing teams to immediately get ahead of Hawaii at the start of rallies. I do think they could alleviate a lot of pressure if they would go for their serves more. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 1:07:38 GMT -5
I honestly think it’s pretty bad because it is weak. Serving and blocking are interconnected in that way. Weak serving puts that much more pressure on your block. Trust me, I 100% get that. Sheffield is huge on aggressive serving and disruption. Yes! Wisconsin has been very good with that since Sheff took the HC job. It’s a simple philosophy that pays dividends. |
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Post by bucky415 on Oct 24, 2021 1:08:04 GMT -5
I HATE that this team doesn’t have a cohesive swing blocking system. Looking back on a few games, a lot of the inconsistencies in the block come from poor/weak posting by the pin blockers our middles touch the majority of balls on the block without error.. I think next season we see tougher serving if our offense is more prolific at scoring. Serve receive idk…Ikenaga will for sure improve but Wagoner needs to stay more offensive consistently in order to keep entertaining her as more than a “hitting DS” because lord have mercy idk a player off the top of my head that’s that necessary of a backrow player but gives that much inconstancy on offense. Re blocking: I've said this before but this team really misses Coach Ang. Hopefully Coach Ang comes back next year. Riley's making progress but I tend to agree with others that maybe she's not the one at OH. hitting sub .200 in the Big West is just meh.....BVS graduates next year and somebody better step up if we don't get a good terminal OH transfer Yeah, just not sure what the scholarship situation will be for the Wahine next year. If they have one available, grad transfers could do a lot worse. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 24, 2021 1:10:37 GMT -5
Re blocking: I've said this before but this team really misses Coach Ang. Hopefully Coach Ang comes back next year. Riley's making progress but I tend to agree with others that maybe she's not the one at OH. hitting sub .200 in the Big West is just meh.....BVS graduates next year and somebody better step up if we don't get a good terminal OH transfer Yeah, just not sure what the scholarship situation will be for the Wahine next year. If they have one available, grad transfers could do a lot worse. I'm not up on the scholies either. I know some of the other Hawaii VT'ers keep track of that. Hopefully one or two of them will chime in.... |
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Post by ACE on Oct 24, 2021 1:23:04 GMT -5
Maybe this is overly critical but throughout Robyn's tenure, I can't name a player who has shown improvement throughout their time in the program. Can you name a player who has significantly improved under RAMS? One thing to remember is that AhMow hasn't had her first recruiting class in for a full 4-yr cycle yet. If I'm not mistaken, this years sophomore class was her first recruiting class. I see what you mean in terms of individual development, however, Shoji's recruiting class the few years prior to AhMow was dismal. Lipscomb, Castaneda, Howling were no studs coming in and eventually left the program. What AhMow did with what she had was amazing. Two first round losses (5 setters, who ended up in the final four the next year) and a sweet sixteen appearance shows me, AhMow knows what she's doing and getting the most out of her TEAM right now. The constant moving of players to different positions isn't helping either. I surely hope the plan is to move Leoniak to the OH position because that would mean a lot of players are vying for that spot. |
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Post by jttaberu on Oct 24, 2021 1:27:35 GMT -5
just finished the replay since i couldn't watch it live.
i'm so happy that leoniak finally got her breakthrough night. i especially love the spark and sass she brings to the court. i skipped the second set, but i hope BVS is okay. mia did a pretty decent job as the backup OH.
with all the upset craziness happening across the country, it's still unlikely that two BW teams will make the tourney, right?
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