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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 19:29:55 GMT -5
NE doesn't have OH2 problems  Batenhorst and Sun then to be specific. I still believe if Sun can even just get back to her average level Of play Nebraska can make a great run to win it all. With as much balance offensively as they have and passing without that position, if she hit .200, blocks as good as she does, that’s more than enough and more than reasonable to expect. She doesn’t need tk be the Sun everyone thinks she could have been, just hold her own. She will have to get in the proper headspace to do that, but it’s possible. What will be VERY interesting is who will get the start Wednesday. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 19:31:49 GMT -5
Wouldn’t have thought this a month ago but I’m now leaning toward NU beating Wisc on Wed. The middles cancel each other out, I expect both sides to have middle production. Losing Hart hurts because that moves Robinson to the middle and Smrek to the right. She is physically imposing but slow off the floor, Krause gives NU an advantage at RS. Kubic and Orzol are close and imagine both will get production. The other 2 lefts for both teams are all over the place. Probably an advantage with Loberg and Demps? Setters are close. Libero are close. But NU has the advantage on the other DS. Civitia is solid when the ball comes straight to her but is a liability when she has to take a step in either direction laterally. Then as always it comes to the serve game, close but I think at home NU is more comfortable and gets Wisc out of system more than Wisc does NU. I would take Hilley every. single. time. so I don't agree that the setters are close. How many posts do we see about Hilley not setting well, making bad choices? We see those every single match with the Huskers. Hames is good - but no where close to Hilley. Well let’s get one thing clear, what people post on here for The most part doesn’t mean sh%t. I do however agree that Hilley is just better, and the gap between the two setters has been arguably the greatest difference in the two teams. |
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Post by BuckysHeat on Oct 24, 2021 19:32:23 GMT -5
Batenhorst and Sun then to be specific. I still believe if Sun can even just get back to her average level Of play Nebraska can make a great run to win it all. With as much balance offensively as they have and passing without that position, if she hit .200, blocks as good as she does, that’s more than enough and more than reasonable to expect. She doesn’t need tk be the Sun everyone thinks she could have been, just hold her own. She will have to get in the proper headspace to do that, but it’s possible. What will be VERY interesting is who will get the start Wednesday. I can agree with all of that, she is an amazing blocker for her size but the carousel really has to be stuck in their heads by this point in the season. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 19:37:56 GMT -5
I still believe if Sun can even just get back to her average level Of play Nebraska can make a great run to win it all. With as much balance offensively as they have and passing without that position, if she hit .200, blocks as good as she does, that’s more than enough and more than reasonable to expect. She doesn’t need tk be the Sun everyone thinks she could have been, just hold her own. She will have to get in the proper headspace to do that, but it’s possible. What will be VERY interesting is who will get the start Wednesday. I can agree with all of that, she is an amazing blocker for her size but the carousel really has to be stuck in their heads by this point in the season. It’s a hurdle for sure but it’s what makes competition so interesting doesn’t it? |
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Post by Wiswell on Oct 24, 2021 19:41:13 GMT -5
It's a good thing you didn't see Saturday to temper your enthusiasm! Or, say, any third set, or any set point! Who won? Regardless of the typical crap 3rd set, who won in the end? And this is not some homer who can see no flaws in "their" team, I don't think I have made any secret that this is not a Wis team I resonate with due to the makeup of the roster. But again, despite badger poster's inevitable pessimism here, they are a top 3 team. It just shows they are vulnerable. It doesn't necessarily mean they aren't number 3. And when you are vulnerable, eventually you will lose. Stanford....then Texas. |
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Post by nellynel on Oct 24, 2021 19:53:23 GMT -5
I would take Hilley every. single. time. so I don't agree that the setters are close. How many posts do we see about Hilley not setting well, making bad choices? We see those every single match with the Huskers. Hames is good - but no where close to Hilley. Well let’s get one thing clear, what people post on here for The most part doesn’t mean sh%t. I do however agree that Hilley is just better, and the gap between the two setters has been arguably the greatest difference in the two teams. Over a career or even if you are evaluating the entire season I would certainly say Hilley is clearly and advantage. My 2 cents is purely based off what I see right now 3 days from a match. Hames is doing a really solid job of spreading the ball efficiently, she’s probably a better defender in give back row. Hilley setting Smrek is off. So I say it’s close if you say it’s Hilley by a mile ok, buts that’s not what I see heading into Wed. Hilley to Retke and Robinson in system can be pretty much unstoppable, but Hames to Stivrins and Caffey can be just as deadly. Hames can be a liability blocking but even Hilley at 6 feet doesn’t provide the greatest blocking. |
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Post by nellynel on Oct 24, 2021 19:59:55 GMT -5
A little over a month ago I would have predicted a Wisc sweep easily if you were evaluating matchup advantages. But a lot has changed for both teams of who is playing and how they are playing together.
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Post by ted_heise on Oct 24, 2021 20:10:08 GMT -5
I would take Hilley every. single. time. so I don't agree that the setters are close. How many posts do we see about Hilley not setting well, making bad choices? We see those every single match with the Huskers. Hames is good - but no where close to Hilley. Well let’s get one thing clear, what people post on here for The most part doesn’t mean sh%t. I do however agree that Hilley is just better, and the gap between the two setters has been arguably the greatest difference in the two teams. Interesting discussion. Not to disagree at all, but it seems as if you are comparing the two mostly in terms of the setting aspect. Seems likely Hilley is indeed better at that component of the role, but what about the balance of it? Maybe she's also better at blocking, but perhaps not by a lot. On the other hand, it's hard for me to think Hames isn't best at defending, but I've never focused on Hilley that much the times I've watched the Badgers play.
Still wishing for a "Wait'll we get our Hames on you!" t-shirt.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 20:13:54 GMT -5
Well let’s get one thing clear, what people post on here for The most part doesn’t mean sh%t. I do however agree that Hilley is just better, and the gap between the two setters has been arguably the greatest difference in the two teams. Interesting discussion. Not to disagree at all, but it seems as if you are comparing the two mostly in terms of the setting aspect. Seems likely Hilley is indeed better at that component of the role, but what about the balance of it? Maybe she's also better at blocking, but perhaps not by a lot. On the other hand, it's hard for me to think Hames isn't best at defending, but I've never focused on Hilley that much the times I've watched the Badgers play.
Still wishing for a "Wait'll we get our Hames on you!" t-shirt.
I’m in agreement with you on this . Hames is certainly the better defender and she brings incredible things to the table beyond just setting. |
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Post by nellynel on Oct 24, 2021 20:20:47 GMT -5
Exactly and kind of my point. If you any wants to say Hilley is clearly an advantage at setting hitters. Ok I’m not going argue she is not but when you factor everything that position gives you plus based on watching NU over the last month improve if NU loses its not going to because of Hames’s setting unless she starts setting like she was at the beginning of the season. So I say it’s close, I didn’t say Hames advantage.
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Post by nellynel on Oct 24, 2021 20:23:44 GMT -5
As a Texas fan whoever wins I lose. Who ever loses I win so I’ll just open an Octoberfest and hope for a good game either way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 20:41:34 GMT -5
Wisconsin has Nebraska's number just as Nebraska has Penn State's. I don't see that changing this year. Hope the Huskers prove me wrong. 2017 you could attribute that loss to Whiskey having the Husker's number. That was the only B1G loss for Nebraska that season. In 2018 Nebraska caught Wisconsin in the middle of a brutal stretch where the Huskers played Penn State, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota twice in a seven game stretch where they lost 5 of 7 including the one in Madison. 2019 Wisconsin clearly had better players. Better opposite, libero, and setter. If they would have played in 2020 the same would have been true. For this year, the gap has narrowed. Barnes is good, but Rodriguez is gifted. Hilley is a better setter as Hames will sometimes give up points on inconsistent sets, but Hames also keeps points alive with her incredible defense that other setters just don't. Huskers have an L1 issue, but have solved the right side. By moving Robinson to the middle because of Hart's injury, Wisconsin has a bit of a right side issue as Demps and Smrek are still competing for the position. I think the Huskers take it in Lincoln. It's almost a 'must win' if Nebraska wants to reach the goal of B1G champion. The next few matches are difficult (watch out for the one illinois) and the last weekend in the season is brutal. Need to put in the obligatory Whit Low plug. Wouldn't be a Husker thread without it. Put her in and let her fire away. Maybe she'll set her sights on a Badger for target practice much like she did the Indiana setter and libero (on the same play). |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Oct 24, 2021 21:17:38 GMT -5
Wisconsin has Nebraska's number just as Nebraska has Penn State's. I don't see that changing this year. Hope the Huskers prove me wrong. 2017 you could attribute that loss to Whiskey having the Husker's number. That was the only B1G loss for Nebraska that season. In 2018 Nebraska caught Wisconsin in the middle of a brutal stretch where the Huskers played Penn State, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota twice in a seven game stretch where they lost 5 of 7 including the one in Madison. 2019 Wisconsin clearly had better players. Better opposite, libero, and setter. If they would have played in 2020 the same would have been true. For this year, the gap has narrowed. Barnes is good, but Rodriguez is gifted. Hilley is a better setter as Hames will sometimes give up points on inconsistent sets, but Hames also keeps points alive with her incredible defense that other setters just don't. Huskers have an L1 issue, but have solved the right side. By moving Robinson to the middle because of Hart's injury, Wisconsin has a bit of a right side issue as Demps and Smrek are still competing for the position. I think the Huskers take it in Lincoln. It's almost a 'must win' if Nebraska wants to reach the goal of B1G champion. The next few matches are difficult (watch out for the one illinois) and the last weekend in the season is brutal. Need to put in the obligatory Whit Low plug. Wouldn't be a Husker thread without it. Put her in and let her fire away. Maybe she'll set her sights on a Badger for target practice much like she did the Indiana setter and libero (on the same play). . No more of a must win than it is for Wisconsin. A Loss would put Nebraska up 2 matches. This is a huge match for either teams Big title chances. Gonna be fun |
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Post by wyredneck on Oct 24, 2021 21:32:02 GMT -5
As a Nebraska fan, the Wisconsin block scares me. I think that Hames will need to be deceptive with her set selection, and effective with her set placement. I am not confident of either. I fear a Wisconsin block party. I hope they prove me wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2021 21:48:35 GMT -5
2017 you could attribute that loss to Whiskey having the Husker's number. That was the only B1G loss for Nebraska that season. In 2018 Nebraska caught Wisconsin in the middle of a brutal stretch where the Huskers played Penn State, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota twice in a seven game stretch where they lost 5 of 7 including the one in Madison. 2019 Wisconsin clearly had better players. Better opposite, libero, and setter. If they would have played in 2020 the same would have been true. For this year, the gap has narrowed. Barnes is good, but Rodriguez is gifted. Hilley is a better setter as Hames will sometimes give up points on inconsistent sets, but Hames also keeps points alive with her incredible defense that other setters just don't. Huskers have an L1 issue, but have solved the right side. By moving Robinson to the middle because of Hart's injury, Wisconsin has a bit of a right side issue as Demps and Smrek are still competing for the position. I think the Huskers take it in Lincoln. It's almost a 'must win' if Nebraska wants to reach the goal of B1G champion. The next few matches are difficult (watch out for the one illinois ) and the last weekend in the season is brutal. Need to put in the obligatory Whit Low plug. Wouldn't be a Husker thread without it. Put her in and let her fire away. Maybe she'll set her sights on a Badger for target practice much like she did the Indiana setter and libero (on the same play). . No more of a must win than it is for Wisconsin. A Loss would put Nebraska up 2 matches. This is a huge match for either teams Big title chances. Gonna be fun Agreed. The two teams have separated themselves from the rest. Up by 2 with 9 to play would offset a more difficult schedule in the back half. Being tied and having to go to Madison (along with the schedule degree of difficulty) puts Wisconsin in the driver's seat. Having the championship in the bag BEFORE the match at Wisconsin would be preferable, but having everything ride on that last match in Madison would be great for the sport. |
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